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Dec 1, 2023 17:35:57   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
pegw wrote:
True. If you are not born in the US you can't become president. Chenk Uygur and Ted Cruz are in this category.


Ted Cruz can become president. That is if the voters vote for him.

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Dec 1, 2023 17:43:16   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
kittibob wrote:
Yes, he's challenging the law. That clause was put into the constitution by Jefferson to prevent his hated political enemy from becoming President. Alexander Hamilton was born in the Virgin Islands. You do not have to be a natural born citizen to run for President, only to be President. Anybody can run for President. I like Cenk but I would not waste my money on a candidate who cannot be president.
PS to Logically Wrong: Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii.


***PS to Logically Wrong: Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii.
>>>While not proven, and the long form birth certificate he finally produced was a proven fraud, his mother was a citizen, and his father was probably someone else besides Obama Sr. I just put that out there as a reply to some other post for laughs and to see who would jump on it. He may very well be legitimate. Just that I have never seen real proof.

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Dec 1, 2023 21:56:14   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***PS to Logically Wrong: Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii.
>>>While not proven, and the long form birth certificate he finally produced was a proven fraud, his mother was a citizen, and his father was probably someone else besides Obama Sr. I just put that out there as a reply to some other post for laughs and to see who would jump on it. He may very well be legitimate. Just that I have never seen real proof.

Real proof is hard to come by for Obama. Many family members stick to the story he was born in Kenya.

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Dec 1, 2023 22:57:00   #
kittibob
 
pegw wrote:
I believe that Alexander Hamilton was a US citizen when the US ratified the constitution, thus exempting him from the requirement that he be born here. Ted Cruz case was in the courts when he ran for president, and the case was dropped when he quit running.


Hamilton could not be President because he was born in another country. His parents were not US citizens and were not married at the time of his birth. He may well have been President but Jefferson added the natural born citizen clause to prevent that from happening. Evidently Hamilton had several enemies; Jefferson and Burr for two.

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Dec 1, 2023 22:58:57   #
kittibob
 
son of witless wrote:
You have a valid concern, but even without this issue the gentleman has no chance in the primaries or the general election because he isn't well known. The much bigger question is what do his donors get out of their support ? He has no chance. I do not imagine the donors are stupid people who want to throw their money away. Perhaps they are building up his profile for some other reason ?


Don't know, but Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama were also relatively obscure outside of their home states.

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Dec 2, 2023 06:32:02   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***PS to Logically Wrong: Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii.
>>>While not proven, and the long form birth certificate he finally produced was a proven fraud, his mother was a citizen, and his father was probably someone else besides Obama Sr. I just put that out there as a reply to some other post for laughs and to see who would jump on it. He may very well be legitimate. Just that I have never seen real proof.


If Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii in the 60s a copy of his long form would exist on microfilm. and that copy would be with a black background with white copy or reversed. I've seen too many BCs from HI when I worked at the Sandiego naval base.

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Dec 2, 2023 07:41:24   #
Big Kahuna
 
kittibob wrote:
Yes, he's challenging the law. That clause was put into the constitution by Jefferson to prevent his hated political enemy from becoming President. Alexander Hamilton was born in the Virgin Islands. You do not have to be a natural born citizen to run for President, only to be President. Anybody can run for President. I like Cenk but I would not waste my money on a candidate who cannot be president.
PS to Logically Wrong: Obama was born in the US state of Hawaii.


Ovommit may not have been born in the US. His grandmother said he was born in Kenya, his half- brother said he is a phoney, the hospital in Hawaii where he was supposedly born has no valid record of his birth in that hospital and Bathhouse Boy has never produced a valid long form birth certificate that was authentic. In fact, some sources say ovommit was a test tube baby hatched in Kenya from unknown sources and that the test tube was a Kenyan brand so he has no affiliation to being an American citizen.

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Dec 2, 2023 09:00:24   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
Cruz in Canada and McCain in Panama


Queervyn, McCain's parents were both US citizens when John was born. The Panama Canal zone was a US possession and John was born in the US Military hospital there. Therefore he was born on American soil to citizen parents making him a natural born Citizen unlike Ted Cruz who was born in Canada to Cuban parents. Kumalla Harris is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN either as both of her parents were here on STUDENT VISAS. She is an illegitimate Vice President and an illegal alien too.

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Dec 2, 2023 09:21:11   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Ovommit may not have been born in the US. His grandmother said he was born in Kenya, his half- brother said he is a phoney, the hospital in Hawaii where he was supposedly born has no valid record of his birth in that hospital and Bathhouse Boy has never produced a valid long form birth certificate that was authentic. In fact, some sources say ovommit was a test tube baby hatched in Kenya from unknown sources and that the test tube was a Kenyan brand so he has no affiliation to being an American citizen.
Ovommit may not have been born in the US. His gran... (show quote)


Big Kahuna, you mean this birth certificate? Paternity is passed from the father and Obama’s father was a dual citizen of Kenya and the UK. Barack was born in Kenya so he isn't a Natural Born Citizen. Just another illegal alien.



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Dec 2, 2023 09:25:37   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Does not matter if one parent was a US citizen.


Citizenship and paternity are passed on by the father, not the mother

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Dec 2, 2023 09:35:51   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Muslims want to take over the world. That is their goal. Their god wants to kill the infidels who don't submit!

Kamala Harris was born in California with two non-US citizen,
on student Visa parents from India and Jamaica. She was born from an illegal alien parent.

Before Barack Obama, citizens are called natural born when born in the US, and the parents are US citizens. Or born outside US, on US territories like Guam, the Virgin Island, or US Samoa, with US citizen parents.

When Obama came in, many changes were made who to call natural born, perhaps to accommodate Barack? I am confused where Barack was born. His family said in Kenya. Even the Senator in Kenya claimed Barack was born in Kenya. His grandma, and brother said, he was born in Kenya. Barack's father was a Kenyan. His US BC presented has been examined for 5 years and proved fake by both Italy and US. Arpaio and other US experts examined for 5 years and proved fake BC. But Barack became
US president for 8 years.

I think we are all dupped with lies! [/i]
=================== br Muslims want to take over t... (show quote)


Obama’s bio stated he was born in Kenya.



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Dec 2, 2023 10:28:08   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
Citizenship and paternity are passed on by the father, not the mother



A child born out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother
A child born outside the United States, out of wedlock, before June 12, 2017, to a U.S. citizen mother may be entitled to U.S. citizenship providing the U.S. citizen mother has been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of at least one year (365 days uninterrupted) at some time prior to the birth of the child.

A child born outside the United States, out of wedlock, on or after June 12, 2017, to a U.S. citizen mother may be entitled to U.S. citizenship providing the U.S. citizen mother has been physically present in the United States for a minimum of five years total, two at least must have been after age 14. All must be prior to the birth of the child.

Note: Periods spent overseas with the U.S. government/military or as a government/military dependent, are NOT considered as physical presence in the U.S. for transmission under this category.



Transmission of U.S. citizenship depends on:
At least one parent is being a U.S. citizen at the time of the child’s birth
The existence of a blood relationship between the child and the U.S. citizen parent(s)
Documentary evidence demonstrating the U.S. citizen parent’s presence or parents’ residence in the United States prior to the child’s birth, as specified in the situations described below
Below are brief descriptions of the various circumstances under which a child born abroad may acquire U.S. citizenship through their parents. For further information please select the description below that best fits your family circumstances.

Child born in wedlock to two U.S. citizens
Child born in wedlock to one U.S. citizen parent
Child born out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother
Child born out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen father
https://nl.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/child-family-matters/crba/

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Dec 2, 2023 11:00:28   #
pescado rojo
 
kittibob wrote:
Hamilton could not be President because he was born in another country. His parents were not US citizens and were not married at the time of his birth. He may well have been President but Jefferson added the natural born citizen clause to prevent that from happening. Evidently Hamilton had several enemies; Jefferson and Burr for two.


If certain people would READ the DAMN CONSTITUTION they would save themselves a great deal of embarrassment.
Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Did it never occur to any of you mental midgets that Every. Single. One. Of. The. Founders. Was. Born. In. Another. Country? As were their parents.
Dios nos ayude.

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Dec 2, 2023 11:10:07   #
son of witless
 
kittibob wrote:
Don't know, but Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama were also relatively obscure outside of their home states.


But they were elected officials. A governor and a US senator and being in a major party are a lot more of a base to realistically run for President than this guy. I don't know if he is even technically in the Democratic Party. I know who he is because I am a political junkie. Most Americans have never heard of him.

Trump was the first candidate in recent history to be elected President without holding prior political office. I think Eisenhower was the last previous one. Both Eisenhower and Trump had high profiles before running.

Again my question is what his donors get out of this ?

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Dec 2, 2023 11:37:55   #
Big Kahuna
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
Big Kahuna, you mean this birth certificate? Paternity is passed from the father and Obama’s father was a dual citizen of Kenya and the UK. Barack was born in Kenya so he isn't a Natural Born Citizen. Just another illegal alien.


Yes, this is Ovommit's real birth certificate. Born in Kenya, not Hawaii. His application into colleges in the US also show that he himself indicated that he was born in Kenya. It sounds like big time fraud to me. He lied on his student loan application saying he was born and a citizen of Kenya to receive student loans for hardship cases and then he lied about being born in Hawaii instead of Kenya to be eligible for the Presidency. Why did no one vet this chump and con man/imposter. Where was the FBI, CIA and even the Repubs?? Even Hitlery Clinton knew ovommit was born in Kenya and was the 1st person to announce this when she and ovommit were running for the demorat ticket to the Presidency.



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