irondoor827

another liar has stuck up his head ;
what about this mans accomplishments :

James Joseph "Whitey" Bulger, Jr. (born September 3, 1929) is a former organized crime figure from South Boston, Massachusetts, United States.[2][3] Local folklore depicted Bulger as a Robin Hood-style social bandit dedicated to protecting the neighborhood and its residents.[3][4] Based on grand jury testimony from Kevin Weeks' former associates, U.S. prosecutors indicted Bulger for 19 murders. Bulger is the brother of former President of the Massachusetts Senate Billy Bulger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger
caught under Eric Holder watch ;
give credit where credit is due.........

OffGrid9 Loc: off-grid, down in a canyon, mostly

IronDoor, your hero-worship of Holder is unwarranted, and your repetition of all the bogus statistics that the DoJ put out just makes you look foolish. Holder and the Justice Dept were forced to issue an apologetic retraction/correction of all those phony claims, many of which had been exaggerated by 300%, 400%, or more.

What follows is a a report published yesterday by the Daily Caller [ http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/12/report-holder-exaggerated-doj-track-record-on-financial-fraud/ ]. I wouldn't normally quote an entire article, but I want 1PP readers to be able to immediately see the extent of the DoJ's lies without having to follow links:

"Report: Holder exaggerated DOJ track record on financial fraud"

The Department of Justice was forced to revise inflated mortgage fraud statistics after an FBI memo revealed that an administration task force greatly overstated the amount of fraud victims, the number of charges filed, and the size of related monetary losses.

Bloomberg reports that the correct numbers were released late Friday from the multi-agency Mortgage Fraud Working Group, a year-long initiative ending in September 2012 and designed to crackdown on mortgage fraud in the United States.

At the time, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed the group’s “success” represented “an historic, government-wide commitment to eradicating mortgage fraud and related offenses.”

In an October press release, the DOJ initially stated that the group indicted “530 defendants for allegedly victimizing more than 73,000 American homeowners — and inflicting losses in excess of $1 billion.”

But following pressure from the FBI, the Justice Department updated that release to show that the actual number of indictments was just 107 — an 80 percent reduction in criminal charges from the number originally claimed.

The number of affected homeowners dropped by 56,000 and the number of alleged losses fell over 90 percent, to just $95 million.

“Regrettably, the statistics reported in October included cases that fell outside the specific parameters of the initiative,” an FBI memo from Friday morning stated.

Government watchdog groups condemned the misleading stats. “If there’s a publicity stunt opportunity they’ll go for it, and will attempt to accrue as much glory or benefit as they can for political purposes,” said Chris Farrell, director of research at the conservative, Washington-based Judicial Watch.

“They’re extraordinarily good at cherry-picking statistics and enforcement actions in a very self-serving way, making themselves look like they’re tough on crime,” Farrell told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “But when you peel back the layers and get to the root of what they’re actually doing, you’ll find it’s normally a sub-par performance.”

Reports first emerged that the DOJ fudged the initiative’s numbers just days after the original press release, when two Bloomberg reporters noted that some of the cases Holder cited in an Oct. 9 news conference included those filed as far back as 2006, when George W. Bush was still president.

Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Weil sought the complete list of cases from the Justice Department last fall, but was repeatedly rebuffed by a DOJ representative. Although he was told multiple times that the information was forthcoming, the data never materialized.

“No wonder the government found it so difficult to bring a meaningful number of accounting-fraud cases against bank executives after the financial crisis,” he wrote on Sunday. “Its own books were cooked.”

Farrell agreed, arguing that rather than move “hard and fast” through the financial sector after the 2008 crisis and “clean house,” the Obama administration tried to “glom onto and claim credit for” financial fraud cases dating back to the Bush administration.
“Obama talks tough polemics against Wall Street bankers,” he said, “but who’s actually gone to jail?”

This is not the first time DOJ has been accused of massaging the numbers. In December 2010, the Justice Department rolled out “Operation Broken Trust,” an initiative ostensibly designed to ferret out financial fraud.

In reality, “Broken Trust” simply repackaged a number of older cases, some from as early as 2006, and attempted to pass them off as new investigations. They also took cases which had advanced separately through the court system earlier that year and lumped them together, giving the illusion of a combined effort.

Farrell believes that Holder deliberately trumpeted statistics he knew were grossly inflated.

“There’s no way he didn’t know,” Farrell said. “Any of these huge enforcement actions, they can’t happen, they can’t occur without the direct personal involvement of the attorney general.”

“It would be impossible for it to escape his attention,” he concluded.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/12/report-holder-exaggerated-doj-track-record-on-financial-fraud/#ixzz2bsSl4lID

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

The Tea Parties were organized to free us from the likes of you. Why don't you take your rantings to someplace like the Huffy Post, Media Matters or other Soros spawned Obamamedia outlets where they would be more receptive to your idiocies.

stymie

Great Post, but how dare you dispute Irondoor with facts. Guess he is accustomed liberal ranting's not being challenged

irondoor827

too bad you cant back up a damm thing your saying ....I know the truth Hurts !!!!! :thumbup:

irondoor827

you call the daily caller a news source or just entertainment?

irondoor827

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Carlson at CPAC in February 2012.
Born Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson
(1969-05-16) May 16, 1969 (age 44)
San Francisco, California, U.S.
Occupation News Anchor, Commentator, Pundit, and Columnist
Spouse(s) Susan Andrews
Website
dailycaller.com

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson (born May 16, 1969) is an American political news correspondent and libertarian conservative commentator for the Fox News Channel. He is co-founder and editor-in-chief of The Daily Caller [1] and formerly co-hosted CNN's Crossfire and MSNBC's Tucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson

OffGrid9 Loc: off-grid, down in a canyon, mostly

Why don't you check out Bloomberg.com:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-11/eric-holder-owes-the-american-people-an-apology.html

That Bloomberg article was written by Jonathan Weil, one of the most honored and respected financial journalists around. He has a BA in journalism, and a JD from SMU. Wikipedia reports:

"Prior to joining Bloomberg as a columnist in 2007, Weil was managing director and editor of financial research at Glass Lewis & Co. (2006–2007), an investment-research and proxy-advisory firm in Broomfield, Colorado. Before that, he was a reporter for The Wall Street Journal (1997–2005), where he wrote about accounting and finance. He began his career as a reporter at the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (1995–1997).

"Weil was a Gerald Loeb Award finalist in 2002 and won the New York State Society of Certified Public Accountants Excellence in Financial Journalism Award in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. He won Society of American Business Editors and Writers Best in Business Journalism Awards in 2009, and 2010. He also won the Society of the Silurians Award for Editorial Writing/Commentary in 2011.[1]

"Weil has been credited by Columbia Journalism Review, Barron's and The New Yorker magazine, among others, as the first reporter to challenge Enron Corp's accounting practices during the Internet bubble, for his Sept. 20, 2000, WSJ article, "Energy Traders Cite Gains, But Some Math Is Missing"[2] . His columns for Bloomberg in 2007 and 2008 focused on questionable accounting practices at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Lehman Brothers, AIG, Citigroup, and IndyMac."

...So, IronDoor, is the reported correction of DOJ lies all a big conspiracy? There are other sites that have reported the FBI's findings of gross exaggeration by Holder and the DOJ last October regarding their claims of crackdown on financial fraud. Are all the sites in on the conspiracy to blacken the name of your hero, Saint Eric?

OK, if all the news sources reporting on the DOJ correction are in cahoots, how 'bout you check out this one, right off the DOJ website:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/October/12-ag-1216.html

"This announcement was updated on August 9, 2013.
The initial version of this press release inadvertently contained inaccurate numbers stating that the Distressed Homeowner Initiative netted 530 criminal defendants in cases involving more than 73,000 victims and losses of more than $1 billion, in FY 2012.

"An extensive review of the reported cases concluded that the original figures included in the Distressed Homeowner Initiative included not only criminal defendants who had been charged in Fiscal Year 2012, as reported, but also a number of defendants who were the subject of other prosecutive actions – such as a conviction or sentence – in Fiscal Year 2012. In addition, the announcement included a number of defendants who were charged in mortgage fraud cases in which the victim(s) did not fit the narrow definition of distressed homeowner that the initiative targeted. While all of the cases originally reported were part of our collective efforts to ensure stability and fairness in our financial and housing markets, the press release below reflects the accurate, up-to-date data regarding the Distressed Homeowner Initiative."

Your chosen "handle", Irondoor, seems fitting -- you have an iron door to your mind. Apparenly, you keep it locked to any facts that don't fit your distorted world-view. If you insist on posting lies, and someone catches you at it, don't rant and rave about the sources used by your critics, not until you've done your own due diligence.

traceyanne Loc: Akron Ohio

Babson, what happened in your life to make
Your speech so hateful and full of racism.

traceyanne Loc: Akron Ohio

Babson, what happened in your life to make
Your speech so hateful and full of racism.

Babsan

What happened was that I came here as a LEGAL immigrant and LOVED the country.Now I see a bunch of Progressives destroying the only great FREE country there is/was.I am not racist but Obama is the worst that have ever happened to America.Congrats on getting what you ask for a Commie state with a Muslim Plant on top

rumitoid

If Dave, bahmer, OldRoy, Snowbear37, Babsan, and Anncaste have any proof refuting this fine record of achievements, they should provide such facts. Repeating lockstep the insulting cliches over and over as dictated by your party is not intelligent debate. Making up unsubstantiated accusations is just being gossips. How you guys behave is part of the reason America is going downhill: you make any and all disagreement with your views, no matter how much legitimate evidence is given or how much sense it makes, evil and stupid and a conspiracy. Be fair-minded, give credit where credit is due or you sound like mindless fanatics. Crying conspiracy over anything favorable to the administration or that does not support or contradicts far Right Wing hate blogs makes you appear foolish.

Babsan

Go online read papers(Pravdas) follow the Muslim Plants doings and educate yourself unless you are deaf,or blind thae you are excused for your Progressive lunacy

rumitoid

What does that have to do with how YOU responded here? I have no idea whether anything Irondoor wrote in this thread is true or not and I am not writing to support Irondoor. The truth is something that needs verification, not automatic agreement or dismissal based on party loyalty. The point I am making is the automatic dismissal, attacks, and scandalous gossip without any effort to refute what has been said or to support what you guys have said. This happens far, far too often here. Hate is the cornerstone, and often the only bedrock, upon which too many comments are made.

irondoor827

The initiative included federal criminal prosecutions brought by various U.S. Attorneys’ offices and the Department of Justice’s Criminal and Civil Divisions, civil enforcement cases filed by the Department of Justice’s U.S. Trustee Program, FTC and CFPB and criminal and civil cases brought by Attorneys General in over 11 states. Participating federal agencies included the FBI, the Office of Inspector General of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Federal Housing Finance Agency’s Office of Inspector General (FHFA-OIG), SIGTARP, Internal Revenue Service-Criminal Investigation, U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the U.S. Secret Service. In addition, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, a task force partner, announced today that during the Distressed Homeowner Initiative it collected 4,395 foreclosure rescue Suspicious Activity Reports, a critical tool for law enforcement agencies when conducting investigations. For more on this announcement, please visit: www.FinCEN.Gov .