Thinking the Unthinkable
Jul 31, 2014 14:14:09 #
I originally wrote this in February 2010. It is as true now as it was then, except that Iran has had four more years to move closer to development of Nuclear weapons!
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Thinking The Unthinkable
Yesterday, for the first time ever, I heard a Fox News commentator raise the possibility of Israel using nukes against Iran. He was quickly pooh-poohed by his guest, and the subject was dropped.
I keep asking myself: why is this subject considered to be simply unthinkable?
Israel is confronted by a fanatical enemy that swears, almost daily, to annihilate the Israeli people in a nuclear holocaust. The Iranians are working diligently to give themselves the capability to do just that, while thumbing their collective noses at the pathetic attempts by Western Nations to get them to stop.
It seems to me to be a foregone conclusion that Israels survival as a nation will require them to take action to stop the Iranians from acquiring weapons of mass destruction, weapons which, once acquired, will seemingly be used against Israel immediately.
But wait! We are told repeatedly that Israel does not have the capability to destroy Irans nuclear processing facilities. We are told they are buried too deeply for conventional weapons to be effective, and that Irans defenses are too strong. I have heard the opinion that even American Bunker Buster bombs could not damage these Iranian facilities.
Moreover, we are told, that Israel could be overwhelmed by the ferocity of the Iranian response to any such attack. Not only would long range missiles and the Iranian Air Force attack Israeli population centers, but both Hamas and Hezbollah would launch all out attacks on Israels borders.
OK, so lets say for the moment that I am the Israeli Prime Minister. I see a nation ruled by religious fanatics who are sworn to destroy my Country and wipe my people off the face of the earth. I see my enemies defying all the Nations of the world and actively working to acquire the very weapons that will enable them to carry out their threats.
And, through the efforts of my intelligence services, which are the best in the world, I know that they are very close to achieving their objective.
Worse yet, my own military commanders agree with the assessment that the Iranian nuclear facilities are beyond the reach of conventional weapons.
What to do? What to do?
What would you do? I know that if I were confronted with this situation, where the survival of my people is threatened, I would do whatever I had to do to ensure the survival of my Nation. If this means using nuclear weapons, then so be it. My enemy has left me no choice, even though I realize that we will be condemned by most of the Nations of the world, and may even face the sanctions that the Free World is unwilling to invoke against Iran.
Israel, reportedly, has hundreds of nuclear warheads. The use of just two or three would put an end to Iranian nuclear ambitions for decades to come, and ensure the survival of the Israeli people. It would also mean that there would be no retaliatory action, because even fanatics like the Iranians would realize that would simply trigger further nuclear attacks. Hamas and Hezbollah would climb back into their holes and keep safely out of sight.
Militarily, it is a win-win for Israel. The only downside, and it is a large consideration, would be universal condemnation, with the current American administration leading the charge. Israel would be even more isolated than it is now.
But it would survive!
Of course, this is pure speculation, and we can only sit back and watch developments.
However, I dont think we will have long to wait. (This proved to be wrong! At this point, we are still waiting, but the moment is drawing closer.) (:<)
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Thinking The Unthinkable
Yesterday, for the first time ever, I heard a Fox News commentator raise the possibility of Israel using nukes against Iran. He was quickly pooh-poohed by his guest, and the subject was dropped.
I keep asking myself: why is this subject considered to be simply unthinkable?
Israel is confronted by a fanatical enemy that swears, almost daily, to annihilate the Israeli people in a nuclear holocaust. The Iranians are working diligently to give themselves the capability to do just that, while thumbing their collective noses at the pathetic attempts by Western Nations to get them to stop.
It seems to me to be a foregone conclusion that Israels survival as a nation will require them to take action to stop the Iranians from acquiring weapons of mass destruction, weapons which, once acquired, will seemingly be used against Israel immediately.
But wait! We are told repeatedly that Israel does not have the capability to destroy Irans nuclear processing facilities. We are told they are buried too deeply for conventional weapons to be effective, and that Irans defenses are too strong. I have heard the opinion that even American Bunker Buster bombs could not damage these Iranian facilities.
Moreover, we are told, that Israel could be overwhelmed by the ferocity of the Iranian response to any such attack. Not only would long range missiles and the Iranian Air Force attack Israeli population centers, but both Hamas and Hezbollah would launch all out attacks on Israels borders.
OK, so lets say for the moment that I am the Israeli Prime Minister. I see a nation ruled by religious fanatics who are sworn to destroy my Country and wipe my people off the face of the earth. I see my enemies defying all the Nations of the world and actively working to acquire the very weapons that will enable them to carry out their threats.
And, through the efforts of my intelligence services, which are the best in the world, I know that they are very close to achieving their objective.
Worse yet, my own military commanders agree with the assessment that the Iranian nuclear facilities are beyond the reach of conventional weapons.
What to do? What to do?
What would you do? I know that if I were confronted with this situation, where the survival of my people is threatened, I would do whatever I had to do to ensure the survival of my Nation. If this means using nuclear weapons, then so be it. My enemy has left me no choice, even though I realize that we will be condemned by most of the Nations of the world, and may even face the sanctions that the Free World is unwilling to invoke against Iran.
Israel, reportedly, has hundreds of nuclear warheads. The use of just two or three would put an end to Iranian nuclear ambitions for decades to come, and ensure the survival of the Israeli people. It would also mean that there would be no retaliatory action, because even fanatics like the Iranians would realize that would simply trigger further nuclear attacks. Hamas and Hezbollah would climb back into their holes and keep safely out of sight.
Militarily, it is a win-win for Israel. The only downside, and it is a large consideration, would be universal condemnation, with the current American administration leading the charge. Israel would be even more isolated than it is now.
But it would survive!
Of course, this is pure speculation, and we can only sit back and watch developments.
However, I dont think we will have long to wait. (This proved to be wrong! At this point, we are still waiting, but the moment is drawing closer.) (:<)
Jul 31, 2014 15:42:32 #
wallstreetgypsy wrote:
I originally wrote this in February 2010. It is as... (show quote)
The "Unthinkable" to me would be that Israel would wait till the bullets are being loaded into their enemies gun before they take action...
I truly believe Israel has the Backbone to have made their Preemptive Strikes well before now against ANY KNOWN ENEMY...
Especially with the Weakened USA Support of Israel under Pres Obama...
The Less Support From Allies The Greater The Need For Earlier Preemptive Measures...
Jul 31, 2014 15:52:56 #
wallstreetgypsy wrote:
I originally wrote this in February 2010. It is as... (show quote)
Well gypsy, yer sure thinking the unthinkable! Israel certainly has nuclear weapons, although I doubt they number in the hundreds. Initiation of nuclear war however - by Iran or Israel - would open an unimaginable Pandora's box of global possibilities, none of which seems palatable and few of which would eventuate in the survival of both countries.
I believe the government of neither country would make such a gargantuan mistake.
Jul 31, 2014 16:20:10 #
Neal wrote:
Well gypsy, yer sure thinking the unthinkable! Israel certainly has nuclear weapons, although I doubt they number in the hundreds. Initiation of nuclear war however - by Iran or Israel - would open an unimaginable Pandora's box of global possibilities, none of which seems palatable and few of which would eventuate in the survival of both countries.
I believe the government of neither country would make such a gargantuan mistake.
I believe the government of neither country would make such a gargantuan mistake.
I Hope You're Right...
or should I say...
I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
Jul 31, 2014 17:32:25 #
Neal wrote:
Well gypsy, yer sure thinking the unthinkable! Israel certainly has nuclear weapons, although I doubt they number in the hundreds. Initiation of nuclear war however - by Iran or Israel - would open an unimaginable Pandora's box of global possibilities, none of which seems palatable and few of which would eventuate in the survival of both countries.
I believe the government of neither country would make such a gargantuan mistake.
I believe the government of neither country would make such a gargantuan mistake.
Perhaps you should believe differently.
The Iranians believe in a critter called The Missing Imam, a Muslim preacher who died in the 14th Century, I think it was, and who the Iranian nutjobs believe will come back and found the Ummah, a global Islamic dictatorship.
The requirement for this character's return is the sudden death of massive numbers of people and it doesn't matter which people. Anyone will do as long as they die by the tens of thousands.
That's why they're building The Bomb.
Jul 31, 2014 21:12:59 #
It's been quite awhile since I read up on this stuff. It's not "Missing Imam", it's "Third Imam". The deal is that the Third Imam is missing from completion of the prophecy, which is where I goofed it up and called him the Missing Imam. It just came back to me now.
Aug 1, 2014 12:37:02 #
Blacksheep wrote:
It's been quite awhile since I read up on this stuff. It's not "Missing Imam", it's "Third Imam". The deal is that the Third Imam is missing from completion of the prophecy, which is where I goofed it up and called him the Missing Imam. It just came back to me now.
If the 10's of Millions of Humans who were Slaughtered during WW2 didn't bring the Third Imam, what makes ANYBODY believe the Slaughter of 10's of Thousands will NOW do the trick?!?
Aug 1, 2014 12:51:26 #
JimMe wrote:
If the 10's of Millions of Humans who were Slaughtered during WW2 didn't bring the Third Imam, what makes ANYBODY believe the Slaughter of 10's of Thousands will NOW do the trick?!?
Who knows? I'm not a Muslim. Muslims believe that sex with goats is okay but if you hurt the goat you have to care for it. Decent of them, huh? They believe all kinds of insane crap. Don't look to me for the answers, I think it's crazy too.
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