LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

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harleyusa

They are. Inbred human form animals.need to do same thjng as you would a rabid dog put them down for the sake of the normal humans on earth

Ricktloml

This comes down to the liberal insanity called multiculturalism, which states all cultures are equal, regardless of their actions or intentions. They equate the U.S. not being perfect, as no society is, to cultures that enshrine brutality as a matter of everyday occurrence . The difference is American culture at least used to try and improve, as multiculturalism has seeped in we are now just fighting to stay the course, with at least 20%, that's the percentage of those who self identify as liberal, working to undermine America

Alicia Loc: NYC

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Just one comment. During both the inquisition and the Salem witch trials the aspect of "gain" entered. During both these events, those who "reported" the witches or insurgents were rewarded with that person's property. Therefore, many who just wished to become richer enjoyed reporting neighbors, etc. This greatly increased the number who were executed.

Alicia Loc: NYC

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I think your mistake is in lumping all the Muslims together and believing only in the negative aspect. The majority are, like Christians, peace-loving individuals. Those negative-thinking who hide behind the veil of religion are NOT religious - they are negatively brainwashed. After all war and killing are more acceptable to journalists. They bring in more readers.

About the only site I have discovered in a long time is God Vine which, although I am not religious, gives me a pleasant break from all the negativity in this world. I also enjoy Dr. Becker's videos on Nature. :roll: :wink: :wink:

Alicia Loc: NYC

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Slatten, you may not recall it, but the trick-or-treating diminished greatly after things like razor blades were discovered in apples. In addition, off-the-shelf medicines had to be more securely packaged because some were contaminated via use of hypodermics. This country went through a really sick period. (I think this was during the 70s.) I am grateful that much of that has diminished or disappeared.

Alicia Loc: NYC

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And many more who don't.

wb505580

with abouit 300 million extremist, terrorist islamics running around, you never know when you'll run in to one of them, on top of that even the ones that aren't support the ones that are in some way shape or form, i'm just glad the 2nd amendment is still alive and well where i live so if one of those 300 million fanatics comes after this infidel i'll be glad to send him to meet his fate which i believe is a very hot place

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Why is it that your not mentioning the religious atrocities committed by the Christians? Your telling only half of the story dosen't tell the whole truth. The Christians, around the times of the crusades, weren't the saints we were led to believe they were by our history books.

The First Crusade was launched in 1095 with the battle cry "Deus Vult" (God wills it), a mandate to destroy infidels in the Holy Land. Gathering crusaders in Germany first fell upon "the infidel among us," Jews in the Rhine valley, thousands of whom were dragged from their homes or hiding places and hacked to death or burned alive. Then the religious legions plundered their way 2,000 miles to Jerusalem, where they killed virtually every inhabitant, "purifying" the symbolic city. Cleric Raymond of Aguilers wrote: "In the temple of Solomon, one rode in blood up to the knees and even to the horses' bridles, by the just and marvelous judgment of God."

In the Third Crusade, after Richard the Lion-Hearted captured Acre, a Palestinian coastal city, in 1191, he ordered 3,000 Muslim, Jewish and local Christian captives -- many of them women and children -- taken outside the city and slaughtered. Some were disemboweled in a search for swallowed gems. Bishops intoned blessings. Infidel lives were of no consequence. As Saint Bernard of Clairvaux declared in launching the Second Crusade: "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."

Throughout Europe, beginning in the 1100s, tales spread that Jews were abducting Christian children, sacrificing them, and using their blood in rituals. Hundreds of massacres stemmed from this "blood libel." Some of the supposed sacrifice victims -- Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln, the holy child of LaGuardia, Simon of Trent -- were beatified or commemorated with shrines that became sites of pilgrimages and miracles.

In 1209, Pope Innocent III launched an armed crusade against Albigenses Christians in southern France. When the besieged city of Beziers fell, soldiers reportedly asked their papal adviser how to distinguish the faithful from the infidel among the captives. He commanded: "Kill them all. God will know his own." Nearly 20,000 were slaughtered -- many first blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses, or used for target practice.

The Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 proclaimed the doctrine of transubstantiation: that the host wafer miraculously turns into the body of Jesus during the mass. Soon rumors spread that Jews were stealing the sacred wafers and stabbing or driving nails through them to crucify Jesus again. Reports said that the pierced host bled, cried out, or emitted spirits. On this charge, Jews were burned at the stake in 1243 in Belitz, Germany -- the first of many killings that continued into the 1800s. To avenge the tortured host, the German knight Rindfliesch led a brigade in 1298 that exterminated 146 defenseless Jewish communities in six months.

Also during the 1200s, the hunt for Albigensian heretics led to establishment of the Inquisition, which spread over Europe. Pope Innocent IV authorized torture. Under interrogation by Dominican priests, screaming victims were stretched, burned, pierced and broken on fiendish pain machines to make them confess to disbelief and to identify fellow transgressors. Inquisitor Robert le Bourge sent 183 people to the stake in a single week.

In Spain, where many Jews and Moors had converted to escape persecution, inquisitors sought those harboring their old faith. At least 2,000 Spanish backsliders were burned. Executions in other countries included the burning of scientists such as mathematician-philosopher Giordano Bruno, who espoused Copernicus's theory that the planets orbit the sun.

Nowadays, it's really popular to find fault with anything or anyone non-Christian. Seems to me, Christians have as much, if not more blood on their hands, in the name of Christ, than the people you're shaking your fist at.

How's what the Christians did and do, any different over the last 1400 years, than what the Muslims have done?

I'm not condoning any acts of violence by any religious group by another religious group. But, without the full story, it's hard not to gain a misunderstanding of why the groups behave as they do toward each other.

BTW- This info came from class notes I took while taking a class on Middle Eastern History, Prehistoric Times thru the Middle Ages, while in college 40 years ago. As such, I can't give you any web sites to go to. But, I'm sure, the same info is out there if you're willing to look for it.

wb505580

as a christian i don't believe in killing unless in defense of someone not able to defend themselves or self defense, and all through the old testament battles were fought in the name of god, and the jews were victorious while they looked to god as they should have, i've been living in the US to see first hand how it has been on a steady downward spiral after getting away from god some 40 or more years ago and until we get back to god in our lives as a nation the downward spiral will continue

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Beside, it's easy to attach religion as a reason for one's actions. We cannot go to the source and ask " did you tell them to do that?". Mostly, I believe it is the desire to do violence that motivates people, merely using religion as an excuse, as though that were adequate justification.

Many of the battles mentioned in the Bible were motivated by human avarice. Note that the Jews were rarely victorious in those battles. It was not until they returned to God that victories were achieved. Simply stating that " my God told me to do that " is no kind of sound reasoning. It is a deluded excuse to do what YOU want to do.

cold iron Loc: White House

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Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

I will make no apologize for my faith. I will also not bow to the thinking of others. It is my thinking that if one does not like the way others think, or the faith they follow, they should move on.
Although I am now going to back my words with even more words on it. A true faith is one of love, kindness, tolerance, and forgiveness. Odd that this is what one finds when they read the Bible. Not so odd that one would find it fitting, to base their faith on that kind of teaching.
If you have read my other post on this same topic, you will find that I have placed the "church" on the list of blood thirsty killers, right a long with Islam.
However as you may well not find here, I do not call the church a follower of any form of true faith. I know I will win no friends with the words that follow. however I do call it as I see it.
The church, ( no matter what one you pick) tells you they follow the Bible. Yet if they all follow it, why may I ask is there such a gap from one to the other? They read the same words, from the same book, do they not?
Now as for how I dare. I dare to speak what I think for it is the truth of how I see it. I dare to speak out, for is how I feel. I dare to speak up, for it is what I find in the Words of the Bible. I dare not however back down, or say I am sorry for what is my heart.
You see this was a blessed nation at one time. It was so for the faith in HaShem (God) that it founded on. It has been going down hill for some time now. I dare say it is do more in part to the removal of prayer from school, the ever growing movement to remove all this Biblical from the nation as a whole.
I dare say that being PC is going to be the death of this nation, and it has been eroding the moral values of this nation for way to long. Yes I dare say that if we do not return to speaking our minds, and standing up for what is right and true, this nation will become a desolate wast land.
I also dare to place the blame on folks that become offended at the ideas of others. I mean really, how dare anyone not think the same way I do. They should be locked up or sued for everything they have. Really? Is that the kind of world you wish to live in? A world of sheep, ripe for slaughter?
I dare, because I live in a nation of freedom. The same rights that give you the right to get up set over what I say, gives the right to say it. I am simply offended that you would dare be offended by what I say.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Thankyou for you post. The reality of it all is that it is not religion that mandates murder and atrocitys but rather humans with blind hate following leaders with their own agendas prejudices and hatreds.

Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM

Please do not think I am simply pointing you out. How ever I know this has been said in this discussion already. How ever I am still moved to ask.
Why is it that when one wishes to point out the wrong doing of the church, they must go back 90-100 years? More often than not they go back well over that. Has the church not been found found guilty of genocide in resent times?