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Nov 5, 2023 17:56:20   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a basic recovery of our normal way of life, devoid of the strident foolishness of the left; or, 2. the ultimate chaos and destruction of America as we have known it through the evil actions of leftists, and their hangers-on.

Who are they? Do we clearly identify them as enemies of the state? Not exactly, because many of them operate with immunity in our republic. Some hold office in our government; some are pseudo-religious leaders, and some are simply conforming to our society for the moment, standing by until a later push to take over the nation. But they show their allegiance to dis-junction and destruction all too often. Their telltales are legion:

A. Fiscal Matters. Massive spending of trillions of taxpayer dollars down many different rabbit-holes often without the blessings of congress or the SCOTUS, or the general approval of the citizenry, not budgeted, and often aiding the enemies of the nation. Thus, they are starving many sectors of our economy from needed immediate funding from the government, such as our infrastructure and others. Our national debt had risen to the unfathomable heights of over $32 Trillion and our interest payments are now a significant percent of our yearly outlays. We continue to throw money into losing projects internally as well.

Watch out for the “Digital Dollar”. Then too, we need to watch out for the dollar itself as the standard means of exchange in the world. That is under serious attack!

B. Social Matters. The long string of social maneuvers spawned by the left speaks volumes for their disregard for the American Way of Life we have enjoyed since WWII was concluded. To name a few:
1. Political Correctness.
2. Woke Lifestyle.
3. Promoting LGBTQ extended rights.
4. Promoting Transgenders for school children.
5. Promoting Selective Gender Pronoun Usage for Trans.
6. Dumbing down the education system drastically.
7. Promoting Collective/Utopian concepts to alter the government and political landscape.
8. Promoting Critical Race Theory throughout our education system down to the elementary level.
9. Funding nearly continuous demonstrations, riots, burning, assaults and killings in our major cities to make an evil point or two.
10. Funding militant organizations such as BLM and Antifa to carry out the riots and worse.
11. Attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments to the Constitution blatantly and openly.
12. Attacking the Constitution itself as “outdated and restrictive” of leftist goals.
13. Advocating unrestricted abortion rights, which attacks our Christian beliefs and thus dividing the country significantly.
14. Attack on Christianity wherever found, in churches, schools, in government buildings, in TV and radio programs, all to promote secularization of the nation, atheism, and collectivism. The secular humanist movement is very much alive today, and they have learned how to sell their ideas without divulging their inner depravity and ruthlessness.
15. The movement to promote same sex marriages and adoption rights, when the same functional elements can be achieved by legal means without impacting the marriage concept at all.

C. Foreign Relations. As we move away from globalization support, reduce our largess to other nations and as we continue to elect idiots into the presidency, we are losing a lot of worldwide approval.
To intensify the global situation we are faced with the prospect of two wars—with Russia and with China—and the bleeding support we give to the Ukraine both financially and militarily. Both of these nations are strong nuclear powers with many means to deliver their weapons onto us. Our hope and shield is mutually assured destruction or MAD. MAD will not work against madmen with a mission.

Meanwhile, the world economy is suffering the ills
of inflation, labor shortages, Covid, trade deficits, shipping problems, and a massive shift away from Chinese manufacturing and distribution of goods. The shifts in energy distribution are seriously impacting European economies.

There is even a rise in piracy on the high seas!

We need the intervention of God, a red election, and at the least some good luck and good weather.

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Nov 5, 2023 18:59:08   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
manning5me wrote:
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a basic recovery of our normal way of life, devoid of the strident foolishness of the left; or, 2. the ultimate chaos and destruction of America as we have known it through the evil actions of leftists, and their hangers-on.

Who are they? Do we clearly identify them as enemies of the state? Not exactly, because many of them operate with immunity in our republic. Some hold office in our government; some are pseudo-religious leaders, and some are simply conforming to our society for the moment, standing by until a later push to take over the nation. But they show their allegiance to dis-junction and destruction all too often. Their telltales are legion:

A. Fiscal Matters. Massive spending of trillions of taxpayer dollars down many different rabbit-holes often without the blessings of congress or the SCOTUS, or the general approval of the citizenry, not budgeted, and often aiding the enemies of the nation. Thus, they are starving many sectors of our economy from needed immediate funding from the government, such as our infrastructure and others. Our national debt had risen to the unfathomable heights of over $32 Trillion and our interest payments are now a significant percent of our yearly outlays. We continue to throw money into losing projects internally as well.

Watch out for the “Digital Dollar”. Then too, we need to watch out for the dollar itself as the standard means of exchange in the world. That is under serious attack!

B. Social Matters. The long string of social maneuvers spawned by the left speaks volumes for their disregard for the American Way of Life we have enjoyed since WWII was concluded. To name a few:
1. Political Correctness.
2. Woke Lifestyle.
3. Promoting LGBTQ extended rights.
4. Promoting Transgenders for school children.
5. Promoting Selective Gender Pronoun Usage for Trans.
6. Dumbing down the education system drastically.
7. Promoting Collective/Utopian concepts to alter the government and political landscape.
8. Promoting Critical Race Theory throughout our education system down to the elementary level.
9. Funding nearly continuous demonstrations, riots, burning, assaults and killings in our major cities to make an evil point or two.
10. Funding militant organizations such as BLM and Antifa to carry out the riots and worse.
11. Attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments to the Constitution blatantly and openly.
12. Attacking the Constitution itself as “outdated and restrictive” of leftist goals.
13. Advocating unrestricted abortion rights, which attacks our Christian beliefs and thus dividing the country significantly.
14. Attack on Christianity wherever found, in churches, schools, in government buildings, in TV and radio programs, all to promote secularization of the nation, atheism, and collectivism. The secular humanist movement is very much alive today, and they have learned how to sell their ideas without divulging their inner depravity and ruthlessness.
15. The movement to promote same sex marriages and adoption rights, when the same functional elements ca6578 be achieved by legal means without impacting the marriage concept at all.

C. Foreign Relations. As we move away from globalization support, reduce our largess to other nations and as we continue to elect idiots into the presidency, we are losing a lot of worldwide approval.
To intensify the global situation we are faced with the prospect of two wars—with Russia and with China—and the bleeding support we give to the Ukraine both financially and militarily. Both of these nations are strong nuclear powers with many means to deliver their weapons onto us. Our hope and shield is mutually assured destruction or MAD. MAD will not work against madmen with a mission.

Meanwhile, the world economy is suffering the ills
of inflation, labor shortages, Covid, trade deficits, shipping problems, and a massive shift away from Chinese manufacturing and distribution of goods. The shifts in energy distribution are seriously impacting European economies.


There is even a rise in piracy on the high seas!

We need the intervention of God, a red election, and at the least some good luck and good weather.
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a b... (show quote)


That was a most concise summary of our current national and global situation.

And you ended with the intervention of God Himself.

But let me point out that when God does intervene, it will most certainly not be an event comprised of red elections, good luck or good weather.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ Revelation 19: 11-15 ]

( 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. )
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So read those scriptures carefully.

Because God will send Jesus to " Make War " and " Smite The Nations "

America has become a nation of vile heathens.

Full to the brim with demonized Queers, trannies, pedophiles and every manner of deviant.

So make no mistake my friend, we will pay the price for allowing these sick bastards to continue their abominable behavior.

God Himself has clearly command us to rid our nations of these demons, yet we have even allowed them to hold positions of authority.

No, there will be no " red elections, good luck or good weather "

There 'will' however, Be Hell To Pay !!

Reply
Nov 5, 2023 19:00:24   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
manning5me wrote:
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a basic recovery of our normal way of life, devoid of the strident foolishness of the left; or, 2. the ultimate chaos and destruction of America as we have known it through the evil actions of leftists, and their hangers-on.

Who are they? Do we clearly identify them as enemies of the state? Not exactly, because many of them operate with immunity in our republic. Some hold office in our government; some are pseudo-religious leaders, and some are simply conforming to our society for the moment, standing by until a later push to take over the nation. But they show their allegiance to dis-junction and destruction all too often. Their telltales are legion:

A. Fiscal Matters. Massive spending of trillions of taxpayer dollars down many different rabbit-holes often without the blessings of congress or the SCOTUS, or the general approval of the citizenry, not budgeted, and often aiding the enemies of the nation. Thus, they are starving many sectors of our economy from needed immediate funding from the government, such as our infrastructure and others. Our national debt had risen to the unfathomable heights of over $32 Trillion and our interest payments are now a significant percent of our yearly outlays. We continue to throw money into losing projects internally as well.

Watch out for the “Digital Dollar”. Then too, we need to watch out for the dollar itself as the standard means of exchange in the world. That is under serious attack!

B. Social Matters. The long string of social maneuvers spawned by the left speaks volumes for their disregard for the American Way of Life we have enjoyed since WWII was concluded. To name a few:
1. Political Correctness.
2. Woke Lifestyle.
3. Promoting LGBTQ extended rights.
4. Promoting Transgenders for school children.
5. Promoting Selective Gender Pronoun Usage for Trans.
6. Dumbing down the education system drastically.
7. Promoting Collective/Utopian concepts to alter the government and political landscape.
8. Promoting Critical Race Theory throughout our education system down to the elementary level.
9. Funding nearly continuous demonstrations, riots, burning, assaults and killings in our major cities to make an evil point or two.
10. Funding militant organizations such as BLM and Antifa to carry out the riots and worse.
11. Attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments to the Constitution blatantly and openly.
12. Attacking the Constitution itself as “outdated and restrictive” of leftist goals.
13. Advocating unrestricted abortion rights, which attacks our Christian beliefs and thus dividing the country significantly.
14. Attack on Christianity wherever found, in churches, schools, in government buildings, in TV and radio programs, all to promote secularization of the nation, atheism, and collectivism. The secular humanist movement is very much alive today, and they have learned how to sell their ideas without divulging their inner depravity and ruthlessness.
15. The movement to promote same sex marriages and adoption rights, when the same functional elements can be achieved by legal means without impacting the marriage concept at all.

C. Foreign Relations. As we move away from globalization support, reduce our largess to other nations and as we continue to elect idiots into the presidency, we are losing a lot of worldwide approval.
To intensify the global situation we are faced with the prospect of two wars—with Russia and with China—and the bleeding support we give to the Ukraine both financially and militarily. Both of these nations are strong nuclear powers with many means to deliver their weapons onto us. Our hope and shield is mutually assured destruction or MAD. MAD will not work against madmen with a mission.

Meanwhile, the world economy is suffering the ills
of inflation, labor shortages, Covid, trade deficits, shipping problems, and a massive shift away from Chinese manufacturing and distribution of goods. The shifts in energy distribution are seriously impacting European economies.

There is even a rise in piracy on the high seas!

We need the intervention of God, a red election, and at the least some good luck and good weather.
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a b... (show quote)


Where are the liberal s? Crying about the truth!

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Nov 5, 2023 19:54:22   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
An added abomination is the coddling of criminals that has taken root. It is as though they are special citizens, due deference for their, their, their...something! Unnamable!

The insult to our intelligence is the defunding of the police! I suppose that in some places, the individuals and local organizations hire some pretend cops to protect them especially those with a lot of money, but the timing for a cop to answer your emergency call has been extended to uselessness, unless you live in some specific neighborhoods.

To be more certain that you remain unprotected in that interval, they want to remove your guns, beginning with long guns like AR-15s. Handguns will follow! Defenselessness, that's the ticket!

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Nov 5, 2023 20:00:11   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
That was a most concise summary of our current national and global situation.

And you ended with the intervention of God Himself.

But let me point out that when God does intervene, it will most certainly not be an event comprised of red elections, good luck or good weather.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ Revelation 19: 11-15 ]

( 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. )
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So read those scriptures carefully.

Because God will send Jesus to " Make War " and " Smite The Nations "

America has become a nation of vile heathens.

Full to the brim with demonized Queers, trannies, pedophiles and every manner of deviant.

So make no mistake my friend, we will pay the price for allowing these sick bastards to continue their abominable behavior.

God Himself has clearly command us to rid our nations of these demons, yet we have even allowed them to hold positions of authority.

No, there will be no " red elections, good luck or good weather "

There 'will' however, Be Hell To Pay !!
That was a most concise summary of our current nat... (show quote)


======================
I am not up on Revelations, but from the first act to the last is a period of some 1,000 plus years, isn't that so? Meanwhile...

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Nov 5, 2023 21:11:51   #
EmilyD
 
manning5me wrote:
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a basic recovery of our normal way of life, devoid of the strident foolishness of the left; or, 2. the ultimate chaos and destruction of America as we have known it through the evil actions of leftists, and their hangers-on.

Who are they? Do we clearly identify them as enemies of the state? Not exactly, because many of them operate with immunity in our republic. Some hold office in our government; some are pseudo-religious leaders, and some are simply conforming to our society for the moment, standing by until a later push to take over the nation. But they show their allegiance to dis-junction and destruction all too often. Their telltales are legion:

A. Fiscal Matters. Massive spending of trillions of taxpayer dollars down many different rabbit-holes often without the blessings of congress or the SCOTUS, or the general approval of the citizenry, not budgeted, and often aiding the enemies of the nation. Thus, they are starving many sectors of our economy from needed immediate funding from the government, such as our infrastructure and others. Our national debt had risen to the unfathomable heights of over $32 Trillion and our interest payments are now a significant percent of our yearly outlays. We continue to throw money into losing projects internally as well.

Watch out for the “Digital Dollar”. Then too, we need to watch out for the dollar itself as the standard means of exchange in the world. That is under serious attack!

B. Social Matters. The long string of social maneuvers spawned by the left speaks volumes for their disregard for the American Way of Life we have enjoyed since WWII was concluded. To name a few:
1. Political Correctness.
2. Woke Lifestyle.
3. Promoting LGBTQ extended rights.
4. Promoting Transgenders for school children.
5. Promoting Selective Gender Pronoun Usage for Trans.
6. Dumbing down the education system drastically.
7. Promoting Collective/Utopian concepts to alter the government and political landscape.
8. Promoting Critical Race Theory throughout our education system down to the elementary level.
9. Funding nearly continuous demonstrations, riots, burning, assaults and killings in our major cities to make an evil point or two.
10. Funding militant organizations such as BLM and Antifa to carry out the riots and worse.
11. Attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments to the Constitution blatantly and openly.
12. Attacking the Constitution itself as “outdated and restrictive” of leftist goals.
13. Advocating unrestricted abortion rights, which attacks our Christian beliefs and thus dividing the country significantly.
14. Attack on Christianity wherever found, in churches, schools, in government buildings, in TV and radio programs, all to promote secularization of the nation, atheism, and collectivism. The secular humanist movement is very much alive today, and they have learned how to sell their ideas without divulging their inner depravity and ruthlessness.
15. The movement to promote same sex marriages and adoption rights, when the same functional elements can be achieved by legal means without impacting the marriage concept at all.

C. Foreign Relations. As we move away from globalization support, reduce our largess to other nations and as we continue to elect idiots into the presidency, we are losing a lot of worldwide approval.
To intensify the global situation we are faced with the prospect of two wars—with Russia and with China—and the bleeding support we give to the Ukraine both financially and militarily. Both of these nations are strong nuclear powers with many means to deliver their weapons onto us. Our hope and shield is mutually assured destruction or MAD. MAD will not work against madmen with a mission.

Meanwhile, the world economy is suffering the ills
of inflation, labor shortages, Covid, trade deficits, shipping problems, and a massive shift away from Chinese manufacturing and distribution of goods. The shifts in energy distribution are seriously impacting European economies.

There is even a rise in piracy on the high seas!

We need the intervention of God, a red election, and at the least some good luck and good weather.
We face two diametric outcomes in America: 1. a b... (show quote)

Very interesting post! A lot of thought went into that! Thank you for taking the time and effort to post such an interesting read! 👍🙂

(Your last sentence is spot on!)

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Nov 5, 2023 21:56:32   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
manning5me wrote:
======================
I am not up on Revelations, but from the first act to the last is a period of some 1,000 plus years, isn't that so? Meanwhile...


Not exactly.
There’s a lot more going on in the end of the tribulation as far as righting wrongs and enforcement of laws. The interval of time between these events is the time that Satan will not be present on the earth. His release will usher in the final logos or word which will spell the end of death and destruction as well as evil!
The meanwhile you reference is NOW. The rapture will trigger the first 42 months of the peace and safety part of the trib and the declaration of the Antichrist that he is the supreme being will trigger God’s wrath in the second half of said trib.
The only thing we can do to be part of this is to make disciples and find that elusive last gentile, and show him the gospel!
Maranatha

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Nov 5, 2023 22:23:45   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Not exactly.
There’s a lot more going on in the end of the tribulation as far as righting wrongs and enforcement of laws. The interval of time between these events is the time that Satan will not be present on the earth. His release will usher in the final logos or word which will spell the end of death and destruction as well as evil!
The meanwhile you reference is NOW. The rapture will trigger the first 42 months of the peace and safety part of the trib and the declaration of the Antichrist that he is the supreme being will trigger God’s wrath in the second half of said trib.
The only thing we can do to be part of this is to make disciples and find that elusive last gentile, and show him the gospel!
Maranatha
Not exactly. br There’s a lot more going on in the... (show quote)


In the back of my mind is the thought that Jesus was to reign for a thousand years after the tribulation.

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Nov 5, 2023 23:04:53   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
EmilyD wrote:
Very interesting post! A lot of thought went into that! Thank you for taking the time and effort to post such an interesting read! 👍🙂

(Your last sentence is spot on!)


I thank you EmilyD for that comment!

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Nov 6, 2023 01:28:24   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
manning5me wrote:
In the back of my mind is the thought that Jesus was to reign for a thousand years after the tribulation.


He is!
But he won’t start until the end of the seventh year of the great tribulation.
You see, He is currently sitting on the throne on the right side of God the Father.

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Nov 6, 2023 01:38:14   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
He is!
But he won’t start until the end of the seventh year of the great tribulation.
You see, He is currently sitting on the throne on the right side of God the Father.


==================
OK, so my statement of 1,000 years plus would be about right...

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Nov 6, 2023 09:44:29   #
currahee506
 
I believe all Christians will go through whatever judgment God renders on the world of mankind because of its unbelief.

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Nov 6, 2023 09:46:19   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
currahee506 wrote:
I believe all Christians will go through whatever judgment God renders on the world of mankind because of its unbelief.


Then you’re in for a pleasant surprise 😇

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Nov 6, 2023 09:48:52   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
manning5me wrote:
==================
OK, so my statement of 1,000 years plus would be about right...


Sure, maybe I misunderstood your point earlier. The 1,000 years is the time Satan will be confined in the “pit”.

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Nov 6, 2023 14:56:08   #
martsiva
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
That was a most concise summary of our current national and global situation.

And you ended with the intervention of God Himself.

But let me point out that when God does intervene, it will most certainly not be an event comprised of red elections, good luck or good weather.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ Revelation 19: 11-15 ]

( 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. )
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So read those scriptures carefully.

Because God will send Jesus to " Make War " and " Smite The Nations "

America has become a nation of vile heathens.

Full to the brim with demonized Queers, trannies, pedophiles and every manner of deviant.

So make no mistake my friend, we will pay the price for allowing these sick bastards to continue their abominable behavior.

God Himself has clearly command us to rid our nations of these demons, yet we have even allowed them to hold positions of authority.

No, there will be no " red elections, good luck or good weather "

There 'will' however, Be Hell To Pay !!
That was a most concise summary of our current nat... (show quote)


You are right!! It`s obvious that God`s patience with this country is wearing thin!! He has been kicked out of many places in this country so he has allowed people who are trying to destroy this country in positions of power! Hebrews 10:31 For it is a fearful to fall in the hands of the living God!!

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