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Marine Veteran Ordered To Surrender ALL Firearms For Sick Reason- It’s HAPPENING
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Oct 19, 2023 15:15:38   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
Hydro wrote:
These rules are instituted by Democratic states - they have tried everything they can think of to eliminate the 2nd Amendment for all law abiding American citizens, the 2nd amendment is not only for hunting but was put in place to keep governments from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship- Bribem has stated he is going to sign onto the UN gun control policy - since when can an elected official sign anything that encombers this country first without ratifying a change to the constitution by 2/3 of the states and with and without Congress approving the policy - the fact that there are so many weapons owned by American households - this alone is a major deterrent for other countries to think twice about invading America - during the second world war Japan was going to invade California and keep going - per the Admiral in charge of bombing Pearl Harbor in his book written after the war - he stated they changed their plan because of the amount of weapons privately owned - once the populous is forced to relinquish their constitutional right to bare arms - we all become vulnerable-
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Oct 19, 2023 15:16:18   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Hydro wrote:
These rules are instituted by Democratic states - they have tried everything they can think of to eliminate the 2nd Amendment for all law abiding American citizens, the 2nd amendment is not only for hunting but was put in place to keep governments from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship- Bribem has stated he is going to sign onto the UN gun control policy - since when can an elected official sign anything that encombers this country first without ratifying a change to the constitution by 2/3 of the states and with and without Congress approving the policy - the fact that there are so many weapons owned by American households - this alone is a major deterrent for other countries to think twice about invading America - during the second world war Japan was going to invade California and keep going - per the Admiral in charge of bombing Pearl Harbor in his book written after the war - he stated they changed their plan because of the amount of weapons privately owned - once the populous is forced to relinquish their constitutional right to bare arms - we all become vulnerable-
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Absolutely.

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Oct 19, 2023 15:17:10   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Hydro wrote:
These rules are instituted by Democratic states - they have tried everything they can think of to eliminate the 2nd Amendment for all law abiding American citizens, the 2nd amendment is not only for hunting but was put in place to keep governments from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship- Bribem has stated he is going to sign onto the UN gun control policy - since when can an elected official sign anything that encombers this country first without ratifying a change to the constitution by 2/3 of the states and with and without Congress approving the policy - the fact that there are so many weapons owned by American households - this alone is a major deterrent for other countries to think twice about invading America - during the second world war Japan was going to invade California and keep going - per the Admiral in charge of bombing Pearl Harbor in his book written after the war - he stated they changed their plan because of the amount of weapons privately owned - once the populous is forced to relinquish their constitutional right to bare arms - we all become vulnerable-
These rules are instituted by Democratic states - ... (show quote)


We ARE the final big stick!

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Oct 19, 2023 15:35:36   #
Hydro
 
RandyBrian wrote:
We ARE the final big stick!


It also is a fact judges like the one in California that agreed with the Democratic Governor - placing another tax of 12% on purchase of ammunition
Plus limiting clips to 10 or the Democratic Govenor of Illinois signing into law allowing illegals to become police officers allowing them to carry weapons but continues to fight against law abiding citizens who have a right to keep and bare arms - New York same thing with taxing ammunition- evidently there are no Democrats that hunt or have weapons for self defense as they keep electing these rogue politicians-

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Oct 19, 2023 16:08:11   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Marine Veteran Ordered To Surrender ALL Firearms For Sick Reason- It’s HAPPENING

Posted by DINO PORRAZZO at AMERICAS FREEDOM FIGHTERS

A judge in the state of Michigan has taken “black robe fever” to a whole new level letting a Marine and his wife know that they must either surrender their second amendment rights or surrender their grandson.

When the state of Michigan asked William and Jill Johnson, a retired Marine and his tackle shop-owning wife, to be foster parents to their grandson they readily agreed. The alternative was for him to go to foster care and they agreed that was no alternative at all.



However, the Johnsons received a shock during the course of filing the necessary paperwork for placing their grandson in their custody. A local judge gave them the warning that they no longer had all of their constitutional rights.

According to a complaint filed with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan –

“We know we are violating numerous constitutional rights here, but if you do not comply, we will remove the boy from your home.”
Now a case has been filed on behalf of the Johnsons as well as another couple – Brian and Naomi Mason by the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF). They name as defendant Nick Lyon – the director of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.

The complaint cites the agency’s draconian rules where foster and adoptive parents must surrender Constitutional rights and their possession of firearms or surrender their children. It alleges multiple civil rights as well as constitutional violations for enforcing restrictions on the Second Amendment rights of people who want to be foster or adoptive parents.”

The rule was first introduced to the Johnsons by social workers, who said, “If you want to care for your grandson, you will have to give up some of your constitutional rights.” When Mr. Johnson questioned them about their agenda, the social workers simply stated: “there would not be a power struggle, that they would just take his grandson and place him in a foster home.”

The complaint states –

“The Johnsons would possess and bear loaded and functional firearms for self-defense and defense of family, but refrain from doing so because they fear their foster child/grandchild being taken away from them by the state.”
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SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb said the statements from the caseworker and judge “are simply outrageous.”

“This amounts to coercion, with a child as their bartering chip. I cannot recall ever hearing anything so offensive and egregious, and we’ve handled cases like this in the past. Blatantly telling someone they must give up their civil rights in order to care for their own grandchild is simply beyond the pale.”

The lawsuit asserts that “the policy of the MDHHS, by implementing requirements and restrictions that are actually functional bans on the bearing of firearms for self-defense, both in and out of the home, completely prohibits foster and adoptive parents, and those who would be foster or adoptive parents, from the possession and bearing of readily-available firearms for the purpose of self-defense. This violates plaintiffs’ constitutional rights under the Second and Fourteenth Amendments.”

Gottlieb believes “This is a case we simply must pursue. State agencies and the people who work in those agencies simply cannot be allowed to disregard someone’s civil rights.”

In a similar case in Illinois, the state also demanded that the Constitutional rights of foster or adoptive parents be set aside. In the case of the Shults family, Colleen Shults works as a nurse at Danville Correctional Center under the state Department of Corrections. Some months prior, she received a letter from her employer’s Central Intelligence Unit “that prisoners in the IDOC system were using people locator websites on the Internet to learn the home addresses of IDOC staff, including correctional officers and nurses.”

A letter warned Colleen and her counterparts to be careful and diligent for their safety. Common sense would determine that one would possess a firearm for self-defense, except since the Shults family had also been providing foster care for the state for many years, the policy of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services suspends their Second Amendment rights.

As a result, SAF filed a lawsuit on behalf of the Shultses.

The complaint stated –

“The Shultses would possess loaded and functional firearms for self-defense and defense of family, but refrain from doing so because they fear their foster children being taken away from them by the state, and/or being prohibited from being foster parents in the future, all due to the IDCFS policy complained of herein.”

SAF also brought a previous suit against Chicago over its handgun ban and later against the state over its restrictions on concealed carry. It won both cases.

According to Gottlieb –

“It was our legal action against Chicago’s handgun ban that incorporated the Second Amendment to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment. It was another of our lawsuits that forced the state legislature to adopt a concealed carry statute in Illinois. Now we’re in court to make sure that the state cannot discriminate against foster parents who merely wish to exercise the rights we’ve restored in Illinois.”

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Marine Veteran Ordered To Surrender ALL Firearms F... (show quote)
For anyone who thinks that they still have a 2nd amendment like the founders intended, this should snap you back to reality. Those who would control you, but fear your right and ability to defend yourself have been eating away at the 2nd amendment like termites on a load bearing wall. They've found ways to do so without directly coming after the 2nd. Red flag laws come to mind as well. If an elected representative or judge show in any way that they are for "common sense gun control", YOU DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR VOTE! Simple.

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Oct 19, 2023 16:17:25   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
For anyone who thinks that they still have a 2nd amendment like the founders intended, this should snap you back to reality. Those who would control you, but fear your right and ability to defend yourself have been eating away at the 2nd amendment like termites on a load bearing wall. They've found ways to do so without directly coming after the 2nd. Red flag laws come to mind as well. If an elected representative or judge show in any way that they are for "common sense gun control", YOU DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR VOTE! Simple.
For anyone who thinks that they still have a 2nd a... (show quote)


They'll chip away at it incrementally until there's not much substance left.

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Oct 19, 2023 16:25:41   #
American Vet
 
padremike wrote:
They'll chip away at it incrementally until there's not much substance left.


That is the plan. The left knows that they cannot get the popular support to do away with the 2A. So piling on small laws till gun ownership is practically impossible is another approach. That is why these laws/taxes/rules/EO's have to be fought at each step.

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Oct 19, 2023 16:29:08   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
American Vet wrote:
That is the plan. The left knows that they cannot get the popular support to do away with the 2A. So piling on small laws till gun ownership is practically impossible is another approach. That is why these laws/taxes/rules/EO's have to be fought at each step.


So Biden is inviting and allowing millions of unvetted people into the country and he thinks that no one except the new IRS agents should be allowed to carry a weapon??????

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Oct 19, 2023 16:46:33   #
Turtle keeper
 
Kevyn wrote:
There is no right to be a foster parent.


Of course I knew Kevyn the perv would say something stupid.

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Oct 19, 2023 18:14:59   #
Hydro
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
So Biden is inviting and allowing millions of unvetted people into the country and he thinks that no one except the new IRS agents should be allowed to carry a weapon??????


Very happy to live in Florida - stand your ground state, no made up taxes on ammunition, concealed carry laws that make sense - our governor just before the last hurricane hit - the governor let everyone understand there will be no sympathy for looters - he stated “ quote- you loot we shoot - guess what stopped the issue before it got started - now look at all the states run by Soros funded DA’s along with thee democratic

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Oct 19, 2023 18:18:05   #
Hydro
 
Hydro wrote:
Very happy to live in Florida - stand your ground state, no made up taxes on ammunition, concealed carry laws that make sense - our governor just before the last hurricane hit - the governor let everyone understand there will be no sympathy for looters - he stated “ quote- you loot we shoot - guess what stopped the issue before it got started - now look at all the states run by Soros funded DA’s along with thee democratic

Elected officials no cash bail - many looters have been arrested as many as 20 plus times and were released the same day - went right back to another store and continued their thievery

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