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Whose Land Is It? Palestine Or Israel? A 1982 Documentary Looks At This Issue With Old Footage
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Oct 17, 2023 03:37:01   #
pescado rojo
 
Ri-chard wrote:
The Jewish people lay claim to the land because THEY say THEY first held possession of it millennia ago and because THEIR God/god directly gave them the land, as THEY recorded it in THEIR Bible. But who is THEIR god/God. He for sure is not MY God...


The word "Palestine" comes from the Hebrew Pelesheth, from the Roman Palestina, and from "Philistia" or land of the Philistines. In the early days of the Palestine Mandate, Jews were also referred to as Palestinians many times. Before 1920 there was no "Palestine" per se. It was a British creation. The Arabs living there were known by their nationality, be it Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, whatever.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Palestine

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Oct 17, 2023 04:06:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
You are funny, ignorant and easy to indoctrinate. Therefore, you cannot debrief yourself of the lies told you as a child.
Can you show me any proof of the actual original writings in existence of what you quote to claim others wrote?Nope you can't they don't exist, yet you make out they are real and accurate statements.

Can I guide you to the original writings for you to explore about the Elohim, Creation story, Eden, Adam, Noah, building plans for the ark, the Great Flood story and much more that actually do exist for you to read? Indeed, I can.
I have posted them before, but you don't dare read them because you know I tell the truth about the history of mankind written thousands of years before the plagerized jew Old Testament.

It's ok for you to believe the jew story, you are supposed to that's the plan - OK?
You are funny, ignorant and easy to indoctrinate. ... (show quote)
Get down off your pedestal, putz, you're not all knowing, omniscient, and godly. You're just a poorly educated rube with a humongous chip on your shoulder and a raw cob up your ass. What you know about religions and the history of mankind would fit on the point of a needle with room to spare.

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Oct 17, 2023 06:26:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
You are funny and totally indoctrinated. Nothing, or no one but yourself can cure you.
The deceiver has got you good. And there is no return to the truth for you. Stay with the jews god and follow him.

Again, I will stick with the original accounts that actually exist unlike what you believe that don't exist. Now go preach to your own choir.
Speaking of "original accounts", human history, and ancient pagan religions, do you know why a large percentage of visible stars in our Milky Way were given Arabic names, why the days of the week and names of the months on the Gregorian calendar and all the planets in our solar system are named after the pagan gods of Greece and Rome?

Except EARTH, the only planet Yahweh Himself named.
You have any idea how that happened and why?

If you don't know, just say so, no need to continue making a fool of yourself by conjuring up one of your screwball attempts to prove to yourself how friggin smart you are.

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Oct 17, 2023 09:52:09   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Get down off your pedestal, putz, you're not all knowing, omniscient, and godly. You're just a poorly educated rube with a humongous chip on your shoulder and a raw cob up your ass. What you know about religions and the history of mankind would fit on the point of a needle with room to spare.


Again, the dummy tries to speak. You never post any receipts for whatever you claim. Empty childish post all the time. That's all you have.

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Oct 17, 2023 09:54:16   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Speaking of "original accounts", human history, and ancient pagan religions, do you know why a large percentage of visible stars in our Milky Way were given Arabic names, why the days of the week and names of the months on the Gregorian calendar and all the planets in our solar system are named after the pagan gods of Greece and Rome?

Except EARTH, the only planet Yahweh Himself named.
You have any idea how that happened and why?

If you don't know, just say so, no need to continue making a fool of yourself by conjuring up one of your screwball attempts to prove to yourself how friggin smart you are.
Speaking of "original accounts", human h... (show quote)


More jew crap BS. Keep up the good work.

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Oct 17, 2023 10:01:41   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Speaking of "original accounts", human history, and ancient pagan religions, do you know why a large percentage of visible stars in our Milky Way were given Arabic names, why the days of the week and names of the months on the Gregorian calendar and all the planets in our solar system are named after the pagan gods of Greece and Rome?

Except EARTH, the only planet Yahweh Himself named.
You have any idea how that happened and why?

If you don't know, just say so, no need to continue making a fool of yourself by conjuring up one of your screwball attempts to prove to yourself how friggin smart you are.
Speaking of "original accounts", human h... (show quote)


Your pagan gods surround your hero on the ceiling of the Rotunda. This is the kind of crap you believe in other than the jew's false religion. I got who you are and you can't hide it. But keep trying its entertaing.

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Oct 17, 2023 10:34:23   #
1 hollywood.
 
Ri-chard wrote:
You are funny and totally indoctrinated. Nothing, or no one but yourself can cure you.
The deceiver has got you good. And there is no return to the truth for you. Stay with the jews god and follow him.

Again, I will stick with the original accounts that actually exist unlike what you believe that don't exist. Now go preach to your own choir.


I'm sorry Richard but no matter the evidence or truth we present to hard-core religious people they are determined to see it their way. Will not sway them. They are way too brainwashed. They will not accept a y other way won't even open their mind a crack to consider maybe just maybe this is possible. Talking about this you have to have an open mind . This is the same scenario when u talk of extraterrestrials and ufos! Big surprise coming soon for that topic. Ever ask yourselves why the deep state has covered that issue up since the beginning? Haha that's another mind bender they will probably ignore also.

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Oct 17, 2023 11:07:36   #
Radiance3
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Your pagan gods surround your hero on the ceiling of the Rotunda. This is the kind of crap you believe in other than the jew's false religion. I got who you are and you can't hide it. But keep trying its entertaing.

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Your Islam religion was created by Mohammad during the 7th Century. To be exact on 610 AD. Patterned verses from the Old and the New Testament only they changed words to violence and death to those who won't believe in their god.

And that is what Muslims are doing around the world. Chop off heads of infidels, or unbelievers. Burn them especially the children and fathers. Rape the women and enslave them. That is what they are doing now to Christians and Jews.

Here is one of your Islam's commandments.
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore, strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. [8.13] This is because they acted adversely to Allah and His Apostle; and whoever acts adversely to Allah and His Apostle-- then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil)

And Hamas your brothers in faith have severed the heads of the Jewish babies on Oct. 7th in their homes. They chopped off heads of their babies, burned them in cages, and raped their mothers. The order of their god to Mohammad's dream.

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Oct 17, 2023 15:39:11   #
JoyV
 
pescado rojo wrote:
The word "Palestine" comes from the Hebrew Pelesheth, from the Roman Palestina, and from "Philistia" or land of the Philistines. In the early days of the Palestine Mandate, Jews were also referred to as Palestinians many times. Before 1920 there was no "Palestine" per se. It was a British creation. The Arabs living there were known by their nationality, be it Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, whatever.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Palestine


The Ottoman Empire also called any resident of the region a Palestinian. They preferred Jewish Palestinians to Arab Palestinians because Arabs left desertification in their wake while Jews improved the land and caused it to blossom.

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Oct 17, 2023 16:20:00   #
Radiance3
 
Ri-chard wrote:
They didn't write that story in the jews bible. Wake up.

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Islam created during the 7th Century:
Created by Mohammad in 610 AD, or CE. in Mecca.
Note: AD and CE are the same. After death of Christ. And Common Era.

Islam imitated the Old and the New Testament and revised the wordings of their god to violence and deaths to the unbelievers.

Your Islam religion focus on violence and deaths, rape and enslavement of women.

Quran: Chop off the heads of the infidels, and you will obtain favor from God.
https://www.oasiscenter.eu/en/cut-throats-infidels-and-you-will-obtain-approval-merciful-god

https://www.npr.org/2015/08/13/432122595/new-york-times-islamic-state-uses-quran-to-justify-rape-of-yazidi-women

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-trafficking-women/iraqi-women-trafficked-into-sexual-slavery-rights-group-idUSKBN0LL1U220150217

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Oct 17, 2023 16:56:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
1 hollywood. wrote:
I'm sorry Richard but no matter the evidence or truth we present to hard-core religious people they are determined to see it their way. Will not sway them. They are way too brainwashed. They will not accept a y other way won't even open their mind a crack to consider maybe just maybe this is possible. Talking about this you have to have an open mind . This is the same scenario when u talk of extraterrestrials and ufos! Big surprise coming soon for that topic. Ever ask yourselves why the deep state has covered that issue up since the beginning? Haha that's another mind bender they will probably ignore also.
I'm sorry Richard but no matter the evidence or tr... (show quote)
You have evidence or truth for what?
You are implying something but your comment is ambiguous, vague, and incoherent. We can only assume that you are denying the existence of God. Can you clear this up?

Science has long established that the universe came into existence around 14 billion years ago.
Medieval theologians formulated the Kalam Cosmological argument sometime between 750 and 1258 CE.
The syllogism goes like this:

That which begins to exist has a cause,
the universe began to exist,
therefore, the universe was caused to exist.

It follows then that the cause for something to exist must presuppose the beginning of something's existence.
IOW, that which causes something to exist must have a purpose for causing something to exist.
Put simply, an example would be the automobile. Or the computer.
Therefore, that which has a purpose for causing something to exist must be intelligent.
Conversely, non-intelligence cannot conceive of a cause or a purpose.
So, with your "evidence and truth" about whatever, what is the purpose of our existence?
Where did this universe and life come from?
Why are we here?
What are the rules?
And, what is our destiny?

Whatever your evidence and truth may be, it first must be able to debunk the finely tuned universal constants that make life possible.

“Fine-tuning” refers to various features of the universe that are necessary conditions for the existence of complex life. Such features include the initial conditions and “brute facts” of the universe as a whole, the laws of nature or the numerical constants present in those laws (such as the gravitational force constant), and local features of habitable planets (such as a planet’s distance from its host star). The basic idea is that these features must fall within a very narrow range of possible values for chemical-based life to be possible.

Return of the God Hypothesis: Three Scientific Discoveries That Reveal the Mind Behind the Universe
The New York Times bestselling author of Darwin’s Doubt, Stephen Meyer,presents groundbreaking scientific evidence of the existence of God, based on breakthroughs in physics, cosmology, and biology.

Beginning in the late 19th century, many intellectuals began to insist that scientific knowledge conflicts with traditional theistic belief—that science and belief in God are “at war.” Philosopher of science Stephen Meyer challenges this view by examining three scientific discoveries with decidedly theistic implications. Building on the case for the intelligent design of life that he developed in Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, Meyer demonstrates how discoveries in cosmology and physics coupled with those in biology help to establish the identity of the designing intelligence behind life and the universe.

Meyer argues that theism—with its affirmation of a transcendent, intelligent and active creator—best explains the evidence we have concerning biological and cosmological origins. Previously Meyer refrained from attempting to answer questions about “who” might have designed life. Now he provides an evidence-based answer to perhaps the ultimate mystery of the universe. In so doing, he reveals a stunning conclusion: the data support not just the existence of an intelligent designer of some kind—but the existence of a personal God.

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Oct 17, 2023 17:49:17   #
Radiance3
 
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JoyV wrote:
The Ottoman Empire also called any resident of the region a Palestinian. They preferred Jewish Palestinians to Arab Palestinians because Arabs left desertification in their wake while Jews improved the land and caused it to blossom.

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Brief summary of the History of Byzantine Empire in Turkey and the Ottoman Empire:

Constantine the Great. He Christianized the whole of Pagan Italy, and spread to Europe until Constantinople, in Turkey, one of his greatest achievements.

Fall of Constantinople: The Battle with the Ottoman Empire.
After the death of Constantine, the Great in 337 AD, he left the Byzantine to his 3 sons.
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Fall of Constantinople, (May 29, 1453), conquest of Constantinople by Sultan Mehmed II of the Ottoman Empire.

" The Ottoman Empire started in Turkey about 1299 AD. Its forces had developed and took over Constantinople in 1453.

The dwindling Byzantine Empire came to an end when the Ottomans breached Constantinople’s ancient land wall after besieging the city for 55 days. Mehmed surrounded Constantinople from land and sea while employing cannon to maintain a constant barrage of the city’s formidable walls.

The fall of the city removed what was once a powerful defense for Christian Europe against Muslim invasion, allowing for uninterrupted Ottoman expansion into eastern Europe.

Context
By the mid-15th century, constant struggles for dominance with its Balkan neighbors and Roman Catholic rivals had diminished Byzantine imperial holdings to Constantinople and the land immediately west of it.

Furthermore, with Constantinople having suffered through several devastating sieges, the city’s population had dropped from roughly 400,000 in the 12th century to between 40,000 and 50,000 by the 1450s. Vast open fields constituted much of the land within the walls.

Byzantine relations with the rest of Europe had soured over the last several centuries as well: the Schism of 1054 and the 13th-century Latin occupation of Constantinople entrenched a mutual hatred between the Orthodox Byzantines and Roman Catholic Europe.

Nevertheless, just as deeply entrenched was the understanding that Byzantine control of Constantinople was a necessary bastion against Muslim control of land and sea in the eastern Mediterranean."

Byzantine left great development and architecture in Turkey including 5 to 7 great Catholic Church and magnificent architecture. All of them now under the control of Muslims.

Pictures of some of the Catholic Churches Architecture. All for the glory of God!

There were 7 of them left in Constantinople, Turkey, now used by Muslims as Mosques.


https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=574223418&rlz=1C1CHZO_enUS964US964&q=CAtholic+Church+built+in+Turkey+was+called&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=T4Fbx87nmZtCOM%252CXWCMQibbLLnaQM%252C_%253BAyIpqiCoUCBbAM%252Cjd6L-nlJcCgORM%252C_%253BEG49i5sOYpzVdM%252CNWc5GjeZWrNgVM%252C_%253BaD-LYW8vLFmhKM%252C8-TXPUXPPD9cKM%252C_%253B68coY7RQFeVjEM%252CCkNsOkgf2ij1TM%252C_%253Bv7OvsMy9BNvZZM%252CU3UqRAyW8yqHjM%252C_%253BtjsJGp1tuOabqM%252CYO-POJAbBQZ7yM%252C_%253BtH9BdW42QQzbMM%252CYO-POJAbBQZ7yM%252C_%253BkEc1HWV5kudTxM%252CBC72iob2S6A-8M%252C_%253BCb5OfIbVFTjVLM%252C9HpcEdTr3_WidM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kSMmMy9m0pBHc-cfQiywCyPUBzlGg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib176-gf6BAxXyFTQIHVNoAjIQjJkEegQINxAC
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Oct 17, 2023 18:53:36   #
Radiance3
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Brief summary of the History of Byzantine Empire in Turkey and the Ottoman Empire:

Constantine the Great. He Christianized the whole of Pagan Italy, and spread to Europe until Constantinople, in Turkey, one of his greatest achievements.

Fall of Constantinople: The Battle with the Ottoman Empire.
After the death of Constantine, the Great in 337 AD, he left the Byzantine to his 3 sons.
---------------
Fall of Constantinople, (May 29, 1453), conquest of Constantinople by Sultan Mehmed II of the Ottoman Empire.

" The Ottoman Empire started in Turkey about 1299 AD. Its forces had developed and took over Constantinople in 1453.

The dwindling Byzantine Empire came to an end when the Ottomans breached Constantinople’s ancient land wall after besieging the city for 55 days. Mehmed surrounded Constantinople from land and sea while employing cannon to maintain a constant barrage of the city’s formidable walls.

The fall of the city removed what was once a powerful defense for Christian Europe against Muslim invasion, allowing for uninterrupted Ottoman expansion into eastern Europe.

Context
By the mid-15th century, constant struggles for dominance with its Balkan neighbors and Roman Catholic rivals had diminished Byzantine imperial holdings to Constantinople and the land immediately west of it.

Furthermore, with Constantinople having suffered through several devastating sieges, the city’s population had dropped from roughly 400,000 in the 12th century to between 40,000 and 50,000 by the 1450s. Vast open fields constituted much of the land within the walls.

Byzantine relations with the rest of Europe had soured over the last several centuries as well: the Schism of 1054 and the 13th-century Latin occupation of Constantinople entrenched a mutual hatred between the Orthodox Byzantines and Roman Catholic Europe.

Nevertheless, just as deeply entrenched was the understanding that Byzantine control of Constantinople was a necessary bastion against Muslim control of land and sea in the eastern Mediterranean."

Byzantine left great development and architecture in Turkey including 5 to 7 great Catholic Church and magnificent architecture. All of them now under the control of Muslims.

Pictures of some of the Catholic Churches Architecture. All for the glory of God!

There were 7 of them left in Constantinople, Turkey, now used by Muslims as Mosques.


https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=574223418&rlz=1C1CHZO_enUS964US964&q=CAtholic+Church+built+in+Turkey+was+called&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=T4Fbx87nmZtCOM%252CXWCMQibbLLnaQM%252C_%253BAyIpqiCoUCBbAM%252Cjd6L-nlJcCgORM%252C_%253BEG49i5sOYpzVdM%252CNWc5GjeZWrNgVM%252C_%253BaD-LYW8vLFmhKM%252C8-TXPUXPPD9cKM%252C_%253B68coY7RQFeVjEM%252CCkNsOkgf2ij1TM%252C_%253Bv7OvsMy9BNvZZM%252CU3UqRAyW8yqHjM%252C_%253BtjsJGp1tuOabqM%252CYO-POJAbBQZ7yM%252C_%253BtH9BdW42QQzbMM%252CYO-POJAbBQZ7yM%252C_%253BkEc1HWV5kudTxM%252CBC72iob2S6A-8M%252C_%253BCb5OfIbVFTjVLM%252C9HpcEdTr3_WidM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kSMmMy9m0pBHc-cfQiywCyPUBzlGg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib176-gf6BAxXyFTQIHVNoAjIQjJkEegQINxAC
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Continuation:

Correction:
I still found few Christian Churches in Turkey, mostly situated in
Istanbul, Turkey.

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Oct 17, 2023 21:30:25   #
Radiance3
 
1 hollywood. wrote:
Mine either! I have a loving, forgiving, compassionate, God! Not a treacherous. Jealous, genocidal, vengeful, hateful imposter he is. More like Satan which many believe he is.makes me mad the brainwashing sin e the beginning people have endured and now have to open our eyes to the madness we've been forced down our throats and try not to be angry about it all as we live with the uncovered truth. But sadly too many are concrete in Biblical information and will not turn to the left or the right won't even consider for 2 seconds it was all for psychological control. How about the time yaweh killed what 2,500 people cause they lit incense? He 1st killed instantly the couple that lit it then people apposed it so he killed the apposed too!!! Il find this in my book if someone wants the quotes.i am and have been angry the last 15 years since I've studied proof after proof that what I'm saying is proof. All I've done is study study study and I would never admit to anything like this if it wasn't proven true.
Mine either! I have a loving, forgiving, compassio... (show quote)

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Where are your proofs dummy? You study what? What sources did you study from?  

No matter how many words coming out of your mouth without evidences to prove it, are all considered trash!

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Oct 17, 2023 23:59:53   #
Radiance3
 
Ri-chard wrote:
1,615,581 views Oct 8, 2023

The documentary is extraordinary in part because of the unique stock footage he gathered to make the film, footage of Palestine and Israel taken by amateur filmmakers.

https://youtu.be/cfkUE5Q0K04

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The evils of Islam. Islam must never be part of our Constitution.

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2017/Minutes/Senate/Exhibits/jus17a01.pdf

There is no place of Islam in a civilized world like the United States. A State of Montana Senate Judiciary Committee, passed a law SB 5897, vehemently oppose and deny any Islamic faith to be practiced in America.

The Truth about Islam! Please click the link since there are so much more to learn why Islam is not a religion of peace.

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Good morning, and thank you Vice-Chair Fielder and
members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Thank you,
Senator Regier, for carrying SB 5897.

My name is Sandy Bradford.
I reside at 801 Birch St., Helena, Montana
59601. I am a proponent of SB 5897.

Islam is not a peaceful religion. In fact, Islam is not a
religion but rather an ideology. The Koran proves that.
The truth -- there are 4 stages of Islam:
1. Infiltration
2. Consolidation of power
3. Open war with leadership and culture
4. Totalitarian Islamic Theocracy

Islam in my opinion, is an enemy to all -- but especially.
to women. My heart aches when I hear of torture and
death of women at the whims of men -- fathers and
husbands who obey the Koran. What kind of
demonstration of peace is that? As an advocate for
women, I see no justice in how women are treated under
Sharia Law.

There is argument about Muslims being peaceful. Those
who are so-called 'peaceful' are not the true followers of
Islam. They do not walk out or live out the dictates of
the Koran. It is those who obey the Koran explicitly who
are a threat to American society.

SB97 is about defending and protection -- of upholding
the Montana Constitution and the Constitution of the United States.

We must NEVER allow the ideology of
Islam to supersede either constitution. Any and all
foreigners must abide, respect and obey the laws of this
nation. No exceptions.


America! We need to wake up! We need to see and hear the truth about the Islamic agenda.

I love my nation. I love Montana, my home. My heart's
desire is to see my nation and my state preserved and
protected from evil. I want to see every state in the
union protected under their own constitution as well as
upholding the Constitution of the United States from
infiltration of Islam.

The Declaration of Independence is considered to be the
USA's most cherished symbol of liberty. I ask for your
support and passage of SB97 in order to preserve liberty.
and justice for all.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Respectfully,
Sandy Bradford
801 Birch St.
Helena, MT 59601
Phone: 406.439.4667


Please click the whole text of the link address
to find out the complete substance of Sharia Law.

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