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Oct 10, 2023 09:47:01   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
That sounds like something he would say. Anything to boost the hatred. The Palestinians were peaceful people until the Zionists stole their land, shoved them in prison-like territories and treated them like sub-humans. Even the human shield is a lie. It's not that the woman and children are hiding the missiles, it's that the woman and children are also fighting. When you're entire family and village is violently oppressed women and children will also pick up weapons. Israel isn't just fighting Hamas, or Hezbollah, they are fighting the entire Palestinian population. That's what they are doing right now... The airstrikes are killing women and children because the right-wing extremists in the Israeli government want to kill as much of the population as they can. It's called ethnic cleansing. This was the chance Netanyahu has been waiting for.

It's an insipid strategy, to deprive a population of their humanity until they snap and then use THAT as an excuse to slaughter them.
That sounds like something he would say. Anything ... (show quote)


Sadly, that's not ignorance speaking. It is willful self delusion in order to justify hatred of Jewish people, revisionist history, and justifying the atrocities that Hamas and other groups do to Israel, and also to their own citizens.
The very rationalizations you use to justify what Hamas etc does can ALSO be used to justify what Israel did in 1948 to reacquire their home land.
Everything they have done since has been in self defense.
You denounce Putin for aggression, but applaud Hamas etc for theirs.

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Oct 10, 2023 09:48:25   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
How you can be so ignorant about Middle East history, and how the world works, and have survived as long as you have, one can only conclude that you are pulling everyone's leg or purposely being obtuse. Or you have been completely brainwashed because no one can possibly be this stupid on purpose.



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Oct 10, 2023 09:50:24   #
Proudconservative
 
straightUp wrote:
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about. You're just pissed off at me so your saying whatever bubbles up from your emotions. You're free to look around; I've been posting here for a long time. See how many time you can spot me saying things with as much hateful vigor as... "you Progressive Marxist socialist communist, atheist, elitist globalist big-government statist authoritarian autocratic despotic Democraps" lol... Or eluding to violence like... "Just do it because the only thing these cretins understand is sending them to meet our maker." - lol

I mean, I'm laughing 'cause they just seem like such silly things to say. "Grrr... let's... get 'em! argh!" But I get it, you want to vent. That's fine, but don't get all pissed off at me if I present a different angle. I'm looking at this objectively and that can seem cold to people who are more emotionally involved. I get that too, but I'm not being hateful.

A teacher once told me that a best defense in a bad street situation is avoiding the situation. I consider that wisdom.

So, what do we want to do here? Do we want revenge? Do we want to avoid this from happening again? I don't think revenge is a good idea. It never is. I'd rather focus on avoiding this from happening again. I suppose you could kill all of them. That wouldn't be MY choice but I'm sure there are some evil f..kers out there that would try. Even then, not so easy for a country that depends so much on the U.S. who is at least trying to LOOK like they care about human rights.

Or, we could lock them up and control them by shutting off their electricity, water and supplies whenever they misbehave... Maybe even airstrike that tiny but densely populated strip of land to strike fear in their hearts but that apparently doesn't work because that's what Israel's been doing to Gaza for the past 17 years and look where it got them.

Or maybe we can think about how to avoid the bad situation... stop pressure cooking all that hatred in Gaza and seriously consider a two-state solution. This is the solution the U.S. has been pushing since 1967. Trump was a break in that vision and his plan with Netanyahu quietly dropped the two-state solution in the trashcan, leaving the Palestinians with no hope for liberty.

Sometimes, it's worth looking for the cause. That's all I'm really saying.
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking abou... (show quote)


Before Trump left office he was working on bringing peace to the Middle East and things were going pretty good when Trump left office. Then Li-den comes in and ucks everything up in our country and some foreign countries, he's helping out the wrong foreign countries. Let's just say Joe has messed this world up bad especially our once beautiful country.

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Oct 10, 2023 09:53:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Proudconservative wrote:
Before Trump left office he was working on bringing peace to the Middle East and things were going pretty good when Trump left office. Then Li-den comes in and ucks everything up in our country and some foreign countries, he's helping out the wrong foreign countries. Let's just say Joe has messed this world up bad especially our once beautiful country.


I agree.
More Americans need to be aware of the Biden family connections/partnerships with Communist China.

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Oct 10, 2023 09:57:07   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The cause is obvious. Israel allows Arabs to live in its country as citizens with equal rights and have representation in the Knesset. The area in question is not Palestine. There never was a country of Palestine There were no Palestinians before Israel. Only Arabs, Muslims, Christians, and Jews occupied the territory.

It's late. I'm Tired. I've spent far too much time on you but maybe others will see this and learn something so that it's not a complete waste of time.

I'll make it easy on you so as not to tax your attention span. here are a series of 5-minute videos on the issue.
Have fun!

Israel: Who Are the Indigenous People?
The Land of Israel has changed hands many times over the centuries. But it has always been the homeland of one particular people. Noa Tishby, author of Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth, explains.
https://www.prageru.com/video/israel-who-are-the-indigenous-people

If You Hate Israel, You're No Friend of the Jews
It’s one thing to criticize Israel. It’s another thing entirely to be against the very existence of the Jewish state. In this clarifying video, Dennis Prager defines the difference and explains why anti-Zionism and antisemitism are one and the same.
https://www.prageru.com/video/if-you-hate-israel-youre-no-friend-of-the-jews

Why Are There Still Palestinian Refugees?
It's been seven decades since the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, and yet there are still an estimated 4 million Palestinian refugees...and zero Jewish refugees. With so many nearby Arab allies of the Palestinians, how did this happen? What does it say about Israel? What does it say about its Arab neighbors? Dumisani Washington, Diversity Outreach Coordinator for Christians United for Israel, explains.
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-are-there-still-palestinian-refugees

A Palestinian Explains Hamas
How do we make life better for those who live in Gaza? According to Palestinian political analyst Bassem Eid, we start by recognizing who is really responsible for the suffering that happens there.
https://www.prageru.com/video/a-palestinian-explains-hamas

The Middle East Problem
The Middle East conflict is framed as one of the most complex problems in the world. But, in reality, it's very simple. Israelis want to live in peace and are willing to accept a neighboring Palestinian state. And most Palestinians do not want Israel to exist. As Dennis Prager explains, this is really all you need to know. In 5 minutes, understand how Israel was founded, and how, since that auspicious day in 1948, its neighbors have tried to destroy it, again and again.
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-middle-east-problem

An Arab Muslim in the Israeli Army
Why would an Arab Muslim serve in the Israeli military? Because he, like many Israeli Arabs, proudly defend the nation that has given them freedom and opportunity. Mohammad Kabiya, Israeli Air Force reservist, shares his remarkable story.
https://www.prageru.com/video/an-arab-muslim-in-the-israeli-army

What Radical Islam and the Woke Have in Common
You’d think that Islamist extremists and leftist radicals would have nothing in common. But noted human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali has good reason to believe this is no longer the case. She explains in this eye-opening video.
https://www.prageru.com/video/what-radical-islam-and-the-woke-have-in-common

Israel: What Would You Do?
The first responsibility of every government is to keep its citizens safe from invasion, violence, and terror. So why is it that when Israel defends itself, much of the world sees it as the villain? David Brog invites you to step into Israel’s shoes when confronted with a real-life attack. What would you do?
https://www.prageru.com/video/israel-what-would-you-do

Israel and Human Rights
Israel is one of the most free and most prosperous countries in the world. Not only is Israel a booming economy and a wellspring of innovation, it is the only democracy in the Middle East. So why is it so controversial to support the Jewish state? Stephen Harper, the 22nd Prime Minister of Canada, lays out several fundamental truths about America’s most critical ally.
https://www.prageru.com/video/israel-and-human-rights

Israel: The World's Most Moral Army
Is the Israeli military a paragon of morality and wartime ethics? Or is it an oppressive force that targets innocent Palestinian civilians and commits war crimes as a matter of policy? Colonel Richard Kemp, who was the commander of British Forces in Afghanistan, was in Israel during its war against Hamas in 2014, and analyzes whether Israel's military is ethical, evil, or somewhere in between.
https://www.prageru.com/video/israel-the-worlds-most-moral-army

Are Israeli Settlements the Barrier to Peace?
Is Israel's policy of building civilian communities in the West Bank the reason there's no peace agreement with the Palestinians? Or would there still be no peace even if Israel removed all of its settlements and evicted Israeli settlers, as it did in Gaza in 2005? Renowned Harvard professor and legal scholar Alan Dershowitz explains.
https://www.prageru.com/video/are-israeli-settlements-the-barrier-to-peace

BDS: The Attempt to Strangle Israel
The latest strategy employed by those who wish to strangle Israel is called BDS. It may sound harmless, but do not be fooled. It stands for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, and not only is it poisonous for Israel, but for the world as well. Israel is one of the freest countries on earth, where everyone -- including Arabs -- benefit from that freedom. If Israel continues to be singled out by BDS and suffocated economically, the damage would ripple throughout the globe. In five minutes, learn about BDS and why it must be stopped.
https://www.prageru.com/video/bds-the-attempt-to-strangle-israel

Is the UN Fair to Israel?
Israel is a vibrant democracy with full rights for women and gays, a free press and independent judiciary. You would think that the United Nations would celebrate such a country. Instead, the UN condemns Israel at every turn to the point of obsession. How did this happen? Anne Bayefsky, director of the Touro Institute on Human Rights, explains in five eye-opening minutes.
https://www.prageru.com/video/is-the-un-fair-to-israel

Why Does America Spend So Much on Israel?
With so much that must be done at home in the United States, why does America send so much of its resources to Israel? It’s a fair question, but according to U.S. Gen Chuck Wald, America doesn’t spend enough on Israel. Watch to understand why.
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-does-america-spend-so-much-on-israel

Does Israel Discriminate Against Arabs?
Is it today's version of apartheid South Africa? Olga Meshoe, herself a South African whose family experienced apartheid, settles the question once and for all.
https://www.prageru.com/video/does-israel-discrminate-against-arabs

What Is Hezbollah?
When listing the world’s most notorious terrorist organizations, why is it that Al-Qaeda, ISIS and Boko Haram so quickly spring to mind, while Hezbollah is frequently forgotten? In this video, Tony Badran, Research Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, explains how the backing of Iran has served to legitimize Hezbollah on the world stage, while simultaneously making the group all the more dangerous.
https://www.prageru.com/video/what-is-hezbollah

Who Wants Peace in the Middle East?
Sarah Idan was the first woman to represent Iraq in the Miss Universe contest in almost half a century. She went to the competition hoping to make friends. She made one in Miss Israel, and then everything changed—but not in the way she expected.
https://www.prageru.com/video/who-wants-peace-in-the-middle-east

Why, by nearly every measure, are Muslim nations so far behind the West economically, culturally and scientifically? Bret Stephens, Global View columnist for the Wall Street Journal, explains.
https://www.prageru.com/video/whats-holding-the-arab-world-back

https://victorhanson.com/
Israel at War: a Hard Rain Will Fall
The cause is obvious. Israel allows Arabs to live ... (show quote)


Thanks, my friend. A lot of really really great information....unfortunately, it is almost pearls before a swine, in his case. But myself and a lot of others appreciate it very much.
No more talk about leaving......we need you.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:07:03   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Sadly, that's not ignorance speaking. It is willful self delusion in order to justify hatred of Jewish people, revisionist history, and justifying the atrocities that Hamas and other groups do to Israel, and also to their own citizens.
The very rationalizations you use to justify what Hamas etc does can ALSO be used to justify what Israel did in 1948 to reacquire their home land.
Everything they have done since has been in self defense.
You denounce Putin for aggression, but applaud Hamas etc for theirs.
Sadly, that's not ignorance speaking. It is willf... (show quote)


I was thinking the very same thing. The very people who denounce Putin, applaud Hamas. There is not rationale for their way of thinking. I'm not sure they do think.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:08:10   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Thanks, my friend. A lot of really really great information....unfortunately, it is almost pearls before a swine, in his case. But myself and a lot of others appreciate it very much.
No more talk about leaving......we need you.


Dito

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Oct 10, 2023 10:10:31   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
Consider for a moment the plight of the Palestinians living in Gaza, East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank. Israel's cruel policies of segregation, dispossession and exclusion across all territories under it control clearly amount to apartheid. There is no possible justification for a system built around the institutionalized and prolonged racist oppression of millions of people. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/
Consider for a moment the plight of the Palestinia... (show quote)


Israel has given the former squatters living in that area a place to live, the ability to create their own government, and many other benefits when they COULD have just shoved them out and sealed their borders. Or wiped them out. And they could have done so repeatedly since then, each and every time they were attacked. Instead they showed incredible restraint. And don't forget that NONE of the Muslim countries in the area are willing to take them in.

I wonder why the left, so very VERY vocal about being appalled by 'hatred' of any type, yet are so willingly embrace and support Nazis, antisemitism, the KKK, and authoritarianism? Why do they applaud self-defense in Ukraine, but despise it in Israel?

It is enough to make one consider demonic possession.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:13:50   #
DASHY
 
JR-57 wrote:
You know not of what you speak. Israel allow thousands to cross the border daily for employment and other purposes and then cross again to return to their homes. Thanks for the post. We now have no doubt you side with terrorists, both foreign and domestic.


Imagine how pissed off you might be if you were a Palestinian living in GAZA under the illegally occupied rule by Israel. It is not surprising there is conflict in the region where people live under a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers, while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians.https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/

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Oct 10, 2023 10:20:49   #
EmilyD
 
JR-57 wrote:
You know not of what you speak. Israel allow thousands to cross the border daily for employment and other purposes and then cross again to return to their homes. Thanks for the post. We now have no doubt you side with terrorists, both foreign and domestic.

Israel has provided free electricity and water and other utilities to the Palestinians, employed them, given them free medical care with much better doctors and hospitals, and educated their children in much better schools with much better teachers. These Palestinians are nothing more than crazed wild wolves. Look at what they are doing over there to innocent families!! Whole entire families - women, little kids - pulled out of their homes and shot to death in front of each other...and then dragged through the streets after raping and looting them and burning their homes!
They are COWARDS of the first order!!!

Anyone who supports these horrible people should be ashamed of themselves.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:27:53   #
EmilyD
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Thanks, my friend. A lot of really really great information....unfortunately, it is almost pearls before a swine, in his case. But myself and a lot of others appreciate it very much.
No more talk about leaving......we need you.

Ditto from me, as well! 👍👍👍

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Oct 10, 2023 10:29:19   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
Imagine how pissed off you might be if you were a Palestinian living in GAZA under the illegally occupied rule by Israel. It is not surprising there is conflict in the region where people live under a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers, while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians.https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/


Now, imagine how pissed off you WOULD be if your people had been kicked out of your homeland, subjected to 2000 years of discrimination, then finally took your home land back, LEGALLY having it recognized by the world (the UN), and were then subjected to over 70 years of invasions, attacks, poisonings, rapes, and your children being targeted and slaughtered BY THE PEOPLE YOU have allowed to stay in YOUR country, when they could have easily been forced out or killed.
OF COURSE the former Palestinians resent Israel. Tough. Too bad. Very sorry, but that does NOT give them the right to become the venomous snakes that keep attacking innocents with murder and torture. Their whole policy is death and pain, and they should/must/WILL be stopped.
If those 'people' had lived their new lives in peace, then today they would have been full citizens with all the rights of any other Israeli. Israel is FILLED with such good people, and THEY are hated by the Palestinians terrorists more than the Israelis are.
I feel for the former Palestinians. I really do, but that does NOT justify what they are doing.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:30:21   #
BIRDMAN
 
DASHY wrote:
Imagine how pissed off you might be if you were a Palestinian living in GAZA under the illegally occupied rule by Israel. It is not surprising there is conflict in the region where people live under a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers, while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians.https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/


Rot in hell



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Oct 10, 2023 10:32:04   #
DASHY
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Israel has given the former squatters living in that area a place to live, the ability to create their own government, and many other benefits when they COULD have just shoved them out and sealed their borders. Or wiped them out. And they could have done so repeatedly since then, each and every time they were attacked. Instead they showed incredible restraint. And don't forget that NONE of the Muslim countries in the area are willing to take them in.

I wonder why the left, so very VERY vocal about being appalled by 'hatred' of any type, yet are so willingly embrace and support Nazis, antisemitism, the KKK, and authoritarianism? Why do they applaud self-defense in Ukraine, but despise it in Israel?

It is enough to make one consider demonic possession.
Israel has given the former squatters living in th... (show quote)


Suggesting that the Israel government showed incredible restraint when they did not "wipe them out" (murder millions of innocent people) sounds a bit extreme, even for a crazy right winger. Are you really controlled by demonic possession.

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Oct 10, 2023 10:35:58   #
DASHY
 
EmilyD wrote:
Israel has provided free electricity and water and other utilities to the Palestinians, employed them, given them free medical care with much better doctors and hospitals, and educated their children in much better schools with much better teachers. These Palestinians are nothing more than crazed wild wolves. Look at what they are doing over there to innocent families!! Whole entire families - women, little kids - pulled out of their homes and shot to death in front of each other...and then dragged through the streets after raping and looting them and burning their homes!
They are COWARDS of the first order!!!

Anyone who supports these horrible people should be ashamed of themselves.
Israel has provided free electricity and water and... (show quote)


Is it members of the Israel army who are pulling women and kids out of their homes and shooting them to death?

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