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Exclusive: John Kelly goes on the record to confirm several disturbing stories about Trump
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Oct 4, 2023 11:21:09   #
American Vet
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I never said that. They still need to provide real evidence of guilt(of the President not his son or other family members)


Not quite the way it works.

Monetary benefits to Biden family members are benefits to President Joe Biden and therefore implicate him in wrongdoing, legal scholar Jonathan Turley said during Thursday’s impeachment inquiry hearing.
“Can a benefit to your family be a benefit to you?” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) asked Turley regarding Joe Biden and his family’s alleged influence peddling. “It is,” Turley replied. Turley said Democrats claim that it must be proven that Joe Biden accepted direct money in order for him to be implicated in Biden family wrongdoing. The legal scholar called that claim “fallacious.”
https://palmer.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/jonathan-turley-monetary-benefits-biden-family-implicate-joe-biden

Payments do not need to be paid directly to a public official to be considered a bribe, legal experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“There are cases in which payments made to family members can be treated as bribery of the principle if he is aware of it,” Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz told the DCNF in August.
Former federal prosecutor and FBI consultant Joseph Moreno told the DCNF that federal law makes it a crime “for a public official to directly or indirectly receive something of value in return for being influenced in the performance of any official act.”
https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/28/hunter-joe-biden-bribe-legal-experts/

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Oct 4, 2023 11:31:55   #
WEBCO
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I never said that. They still need to provide real evidence of guilt(of the President not his son or other family members)


You don't find it a little odd that the house republicans can find information easily, that the FBI and DOJ couldn't find over years?

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Oct 4, 2023 11:32:11   #
Justice101
 
American Vet wrote:
Not quite the way it works.

Monetary benefits to Biden family members are benefits to President Joe Biden and therefore implicate him in wrongdoing, legal scholar Jonathan Turley said during Thursday’s impeachment inquiry hearing.
“Can a benefit to your family be a benefit to you?” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) asked Turley regarding Joe Biden and his family’s alleged influence peddling. “It is,” Turley replied. Turley said Democrats claim that it must be proven that Joe Biden accepted direct money in order for him to be implicated in Biden family wrongdoing. The legal scholar called that claim “fallacious.”
https://palmer.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/jonathan-turley-monetary-benefits-biden-family-implicate-joe-biden

Payments do not need to be paid directly to a public official to be considered a bribe, legal experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“There are cases in which payments made to family members can be treated as bribery of the principle if he is aware of it,” Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz told the DCNF in August.
Former federal prosecutor and FBI consultant Joseph Moreno told the DCNF that federal law makes it a crime “for a public official to directly or indirectly receive something of value in return for being influenced in the performance of any official act.”
https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/28/hunter-joe-biden-bribe-legal-experts/
Not quite the way it works. br br Monetary benefi... (show quote)


Excellent response and post

The dim dems keep trying to raise the bar for the impeachment of Bribem when they severely lowered the bar for THEIR impeachments of Trump.

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Oct 4, 2023 11:34:42   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
American Vet wrote:
Not quite the way it works.

Monetary benefits to Biden family members are benefits to President Joe Biden and therefore implicate him in wrongdoing, legal scholar Jonathan Turley said during Thursday’s impeachment inquiry hearing.
“Can a benefit to your family be a benefit to you?” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) asked Turley regarding Joe Biden and his family’s alleged influence peddling. “It is,” Turley replied. Turley said Democrats claim that it must be proven that Joe Biden accepted direct money in order for him to be implicated in Biden family wrongdoing. The legal scholar called that claim “fallacious.”
https://palmer.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/jonathan-turley-monetary-benefits-biden-family-implicate-joe-biden

Payments do not need to be paid directly to a public official to be considered a bribe, legal experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“There are cases in which payments made to family members can be treated as bribery of the principle if he is aware of it,” Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz told the DCNF in August.
Former federal prosecutor and FBI consultant Joseph Moreno told the DCNF that federal law makes it a crime “for a public official to directly or indirectly receive something of value in return for being influenced in the performance of any official act.”
https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/28/hunter-joe-biden-bribe-legal-experts/
Not quite the way it works. br br Monetary benefi... (show quote)


Thanks for the info. I was not aware of this. This may be the evidence needed to continue the investigation and he impeachment inquiry.

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Oct 4, 2023 12:36:34   #
son of witless
 
JR-57 wrote:
If that’s the case, he’ll never be heard from again. Nice challenge. 👍🏻👍🏻


All I have to do is talk to them and they are gone.

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Oct 4, 2023 12:46:35   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
son of witless wrote:
All I have to do is talk to them and they are gone.

There was a time when I’d publish my unanswered OPP questions. I had to stop because I couldn’t keep up with the mounting number of questions left unanswered by our left wing enemies. They don’t like most things in life but they really don’t like being challenged or being asked to think.

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Oct 4, 2023 13:18:48   #
son of witless
 
JR-57 wrote:
There was a time when I’d publish my unanswered OPP questions. I had to stop because I couldn’t keep up with the mounting number of questions left unanswered by our left wing enemies. They don’t like most things in life but they really don’t like being challenged or being asked to think.


When I post I expect to be questioned and challenged on what I said. I am prepared to answer for what I post. Our little Liberal brothers and sisters and non binaries must have never been challenged in life because they rarely answer for what they throw at the wall.

I never tell them to shut up, but shutting them up is child's play.

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Oct 4, 2023 13:24:17   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
son of witless wrote:
When I post I expect to be questioned and challenged on what I said. I am prepared to answer for what I post. Our little Liberal brothers and sisters and non binaries must have never been challenged in life because they rarely answer for what they throw at the wall.

I never tell them to shut up, but shutting them up is child's play.

For some time I’ve believed that left wing, and especially far left wing individuals, suffered something in their life that caused a lack of maturity. Most are spoiled and petulant.

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Oct 4, 2023 14:06:47   #
martsiva
 
Michael10 wrote:
Yea cause the GOP is doing such a good job at running the country, NOT.


So you think the Democrats are doing a fine job of running the country?? Who`s in the White House now?? Which party is responsible for the border crisis?? Which party is responsible for the high inflation?? Which party puts Americans last?? The list goes on!!

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Oct 4, 2023 14:08:53   #
martsiva
 
Michael10 wrote:
John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-john-kelly-goes-record-210022955.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink
John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief ... (show quote)


Trump canned him so of course he`s going to bad mouth Trump!! How stupid!!

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Oct 4, 2023 14:11:23   #
martsiva
 
Michael10 wrote:
We agree that both sides do a lot of things to benefit themselves and not the American people but if there has ever been a corrupt politician his name is Donald Trump.


After all the damage Biden has done to this country and you call Trump corrupt?? Are you kidding me???

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Oct 4, 2023 14:25:20   #
martsiva
 
Barleyfarm wrote:
Yes the time has come for people who worked closely with Trump to tell the truth about how stupid and evil he really is!! Thanks to John Kelly for doing so !!!


Trump canned him and you are gullible enough to believe what he says!!

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Oct 4, 2023 14:32:22   #
martsiva
 
Drue-Marie wrote:
You are correct. I thought you were referring to the testicles. Forgive me for assuming you had any redeeming qualities. Now I know for certain that your ONE redeeming quality is that you are mortal.


That is one of the most asinine posts I`ve ever seen on this forum!! How utterly stupid!!

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Oct 4, 2023 14:41:44   #
woodguru
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Then, Mr Kelly, you go ahead & continue to vote Democrat & see what happens to America. Wow, all America could then be like San Francisco, Portland, New York,Detroit.


Living in that place of fear...the sky is falling, we are doomed?

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Oct 4, 2023 14:43:14   #
woodguru
 
JR-57 wrote:
This isn’t a team sport we’re talking about. This is the future of our nation. Both sides play the people. Both sides are as corrupt as hell. It doesn’t need to be one or the other. We need to focus on major issues and somehow get past the D and R team logos.


The left doesn't want anything to do with your authoritarian vision of chaos and anarchy

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