nancyjess

this is the best monologue i have read lately .. let me just tell you It is a mystery to me what is happening to this country..????
i saw many sub divisions... this past two years.... as i visited a city /town , will not say where? but yes in this country U.S.A.
people were sitting on a front stoup.. and pants hanging down below there hips.. sloffing around... broken screens... doors wide open all day... kids coming in and out as were there cats and dogs
little babies walking in yard no grass. dirt and trash strewn all over.. no one was working... no one had a car.. there was a car up on blocks with no tires... broken glass...on ground and i saw used condoms on ground... near a car... kids four yrs old in diapers... trash cans never brought in our out..
as i drove around i saw it everywhere.. and no this was not chicago.! is this because we have turned hard working americans into a numbness of reality? is it drugs? they do not care... someone said to me... ohh you should be here at night.
drug runners.. and girls being dropped off and picked up... ! where are the morals, values.. hard work ethics. and i could see the next generation being trained into nothing ness as i just stood in shock. we have to wake up america its not just our government out of control of our values.. but the U.S.A family
is just moving into a down ward spiral at 100 miles an hr.
it is frightening... and its spreading. what to do .is mandatory education.... demand higher values. has anyone seen the old movie with morgan freeman called " lean on me "? i would suggest you go order it and get many copies and spread it around to all the school boards. its our kids we have to worry about .. they will be in charge of our country in years to come.

rickdri

Not true! The conservatives of the north wanted to stop slavery! It was the democrats of the south that wanted to continue on! Read your history. Democrats started the KKK after the Civil War. Democrats of the south continued to oppose equal rights up until LBJ high jacked the blacks with all of his government promises. Even Martin Luther King was a registered republican.
As for your believe this way or else, this can be said about the democrats of today! Look at how the gay agenda has taken over. If you don't do like a gay person wants, your business will be destroyed. You will be destroyed. They force their values upon everyone and you will like it or else. That is the way of many liberals. You will conform to our way of thinking. Yes we are tolerant of all except for those that don't believe as we do!

Loki Loc: Georgia

What has slavery to do with conservatism? Especially in the antebellum South, which seems to be a Liberal whipping boy? Robert E. Lee was as conservative as they come. He freed his slaves, after making sure they were able to support themselves. Most of his command staff were the same. The "liberal" abolitionists, if you wish to call them that, merely wished to free all these slaves, with absolutely no thought to how they would support themselves after manumission. Typically Liberal, they wished to do their good deed for the day, heedless of the consequences on those being "good deeded."
This is an example of the difference between conservative and liberal; the one wishing a gradual abolition of slavery in conjunction with job training for the soon-to-be-freed slaves, so they could support themselves, and the abolitionist, liberal do-gooder, who wished to free them immediately to starve, having no trade other than picking cotton.

VladimirPee

You are correct. In fact abolitionist John Brown would be considered a bible thumping wacko by todays left wing standards

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Absolutely right on and totally true. PC is a crutch for those who cannot, will not risk someone's criticism of their ideals. If one's ideals are good and not harmful, there is no reason for anyone to be criticizing them, and absolutely no reason to be ashamed of them. A stone is a stone, a crook is a crook, a communist is a communist.

Toby24 Loc: Tokyo and Beijing

Many conservatives here seem to be poorly educated, at least as regards syntax, spelling and grammar. This is a good read if you can parse it:

http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/jost.glaser.political-conservatism-as-motivated-social-cog.pdf

LindaLegg

Slavery existed in all 13 colonies when the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776. Soon after, 8 states outlawed it. The Founders took measures to contain slavery by preventing slavery in the territories and new states. Their hope was to faze it out peacefully.
The Founders were not hypocritical. If they were, they would have supported slavery while stating that “all men are created equal”. It is well documented that all of the Founders worked to limit slavery so it could be eliminated. Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way and many “conservatives” whose values bore you, died fighting against slavery and for “liberty and justice for all”.

VladimirPee

Many liberals are poorly educated. African Americans and Latino's are the meaningful base of the Dem party not a handful of Jewish college professors. The lowest national text scores in America ? Blacks and Hispanics. SAT ACT HESPA etc.

A study by a Jewish Liberal from Berkeley? Are you joking?

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rumi, you need to expound on the issue of slavery. It isn't an issue today, and there's not a single thing anyone, including YOU, can do to change the past re slavery. The only people I know who cling like a vine to the slavery issue of decades and decades ago are white democrats who feel guilt for what their forefathers did(or didn't do) while at the same time keeping the blacks on the government plantation at any and all costs, and black people trying to get money for their "abuse", well the abuse of ancestors long dead. No one in my family ever had slaves. I will NOT accept blame for what happened decades and decades ago by other players. Nor should you. Nor should anyone else. A shameful thing happened - it was happening everywhere which certainly does NOT make it O.K., but Americans are not the world's official whipping post for all past abuse. I simply think you are confused about what YOU believe. I also wonder if you don't feel some shame for something. You talk about slavery more than anyone I have ever known, to the point I wonder if you are obsessed by slavery. You know, guilt and grief are entertwined. Many times grief can be caused by guilt that has never been resolved. Makes me wonder if you have racial issues to resolve.

I am a very proud conservative. I've worked with blacks, visited in their homes, had them in my home, gone to their churches, helped them when I could, relied on them when necessary. I've never in my life put down or insulted any black, Mexican, Chinese, or anyone else re his race or ethnicity. Why are you browbeating people like me about SLAVERY, for God's sake? Have you completely run out of things to carp about?

oz89 Loc: California

Christians seem to have no problem claiming "We are being attacked" when there views are being challenged but see not problem when there attacking others for there views.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

With all due respect, Christianity is NOT a "view". It is the most important thing in a Christian's life, and when you attack Christianity, you are in effect attacking the Christian as well as their creator. I'll bet you defend that which is most important to you as well, huh? Doesn't everyone? That doesn't make Christians abnormal nor wrong. It colors them as normal in my book.

Blacksheep

Right, Rumi, all Conservatives are exactly the same and all are exactly the way you see them and no other way.

Your problem, and it is YOUR problem, is that YOU are the one with your values set in cement. Very true, so are those of many Conservatives, but don't forget all the Liberals and all the Independents and all the rest of us.

We're all different but you're so set in your outlook on virtually everything that you can't see that. Your myopic view is something I've been challenging ever since I joined OPP, and your responses to me have always been the same snide rejection of any and every thing I say. Not just me, I'm not a victim here, you only agree with those who feed you sympathy.

Conservatives have a wide range of views and attitudes, degrees of open-mindedness, likes, dislikes, just like everyone else. Do yourself a favor and take a wider view, too.

Blacksheep

Whups! Back up a bit there, Tasine. No, Christianity isn't a "view", but Christians do have views. That's why there's so many different forms of Christianity, so many types of Protestantism, so many different and often competing churches. Different views. They view different aspects of the faith differently.

Methinks too many Christians are too ready to see themselves as being persecuted when they're not.

VladimirPee

I disagree. I think Hollywood does a wonderful job of attacking Christians. Ever watch Law and Order? Every criminal in NYC is a Southern Christian. Even the Bernie Madoff episode gives the character an Anglo Name . Why is this important? Imagine if they changed Tim McVeigh to Tim Goldberg in a movie and you would hear a left wing outcry.

oz89 Loc: California

People don't like to admit that although a republican did free the slaves they did it as a way to end the Civil War and keep the Union together which was the main reason for the war to begin with. If you remember Lincoln first freed slaves of slave owner that were helping in the Souths war efforts. The slave owners who were not helping was able to keep there slaves. The republicans knew that to weaken the South and keep them in Union would mean freeing the slaves, which Lincoln really didn't want to do. If the South had not threaten to leave the Union slavery probably would not have ended when it did.