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Thieves Steal Cars, Then Commit Armed Robberies, Yet It's The Car's Fault?
Sep 6, 2023 08:31:42   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.

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Sep 6, 2023 08:58:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Used to think Pennsylvanians were the stupidest people ever. Now, not so sure.
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)

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Sep 6, 2023 09:45:49   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)

Up is Down | Down is Up

That’s all we need to know and accept.

Whatever you would logically think about anything; think the opposite and you’ll fit right in.

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Sep 6, 2023 11:19:44   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)


This theft problem started on social media. Videos have been posted on Tik Tok and other platforms that showed people explaining how easy it is to steal certain pre-2021 Kia or Hyundai models.

The are stolen by removing a plastic cover on the steering column and using a USB cable to start the engine.

The Michigan State Police is reminding Kia and Hyundai owners these anti-theft steering wheel locks are available at state police posts, free of charge courtesy of Hyundai. Both Kia and Hyundai are offering free "fixes" to make the older vehicles safer. Engine immobilizers are now standard on all Hyundai and Kia vehicles produced since November 2021.

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Sep 6, 2023 11:24:56   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
BBZ wrote:
This theft problem started on social media. Videos have been posted on Tik Tok and other platforms that showed people explaining how easy it is to steal certain pre-2021 Kia or Hyundai models.

The are stolen by removing a plastic cover on the steering column and using a USB cable to start the engine.

The Michigan State Police is reminding Kia and Hyundai owners these anti-theft steering wheel locks are available at state police posts, free of charge courtesy of Hyundai. Both Kia and Hyundai are offering free "fixes" to make the older vehicles safer. Engine immobilizers are now standard on all Hyundai and Kia vehicles produced since November 2021.
This theft problem started on social media. Videos... (show quote)

WHOOSH!... right over your head.

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Sep 6, 2023 11:40:15   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Parky60 wrote:
WHOOSH!... right over your head.


I don't think so. You are complaining about thieves stealing cars, and I posted a solution.

Actually, you are talking about the Times calling the cars the problem, not the thieves. The thieves are the problem, but Kia and Hyundai made it easier for them to steal. It is the fault of the knife if you stab someone in the eye? That is a crazy comparison. Instead of looking to solve the problem, you would rather whine about the Left.

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Sep 6, 2023 11:43:52   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
BBZ wrote:
I don't think so. You are complaining about thieves stealing cars, and I posted a solution.

Actually, you are talking about the Times calling the cars the problem, not the thieves. The thieves are the problem, but Kia and Hyundai made it easier for them to steal. It is the fault of the knife if you stab someone in the eye? That is a crazy comparison. Instead of looking to solve the problem, you would rather whine about the Left.

I missed the whine. I didn’t miss Parky’s suggestion:

“How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.”

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Sep 6, 2023 15:14:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
BBZ wrote:
I don't think so. You are complaining about thieves stealing cars, and I posted a solution.

Actually, you are talking about the Times calling the cars the problem, not the thieves. The thieves are the problem, but Kia and Hyundai made it easier for them to steal. It is the fault of the knife if you stab someone in the eye? That is a crazy comparison. Instead of looking to solve the problem, you would rather whine about the Left.


Here's my solution. Shoot the scumbag thieves.

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Sep 6, 2023 18:42:08   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)


In cally they passed a law to not try to do bodily harm to stop thieves!! Gotta protect the thieves!!

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Sep 6, 2023 18:43:43   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
BBZ wrote:
I don't think so. You are complaining about thieves stealing cars, and I posted a solution.

Actually, you are talking about the Times calling the cars the problem, not the thieves. The thieves are the problem, but Kia and Hyundai made it easier for them to steal. It is the fault of the knife if you stab someone in the eye? That is a crazy comparison. Instead of looking to solve the problem, you would rather whine about the Left.


Is it the fault of the gun manufacturer is someone uses the gone to kill??

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Sep 6, 2023 18:44:34   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JFlorio wrote:
Here's my solution. Shoot the scumbag thieves.


Yup yup and a big yuuuup!

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Sep 6, 2023 22:30:33   #
Justice101
 
BBZ wrote:
This theft problem started on social media. Videos have been posted on Tik Tok and other platforms that showed people explaining how easy it is to steal certain pre-2021 Kia or Hyundai models.

The are stolen by removing a plastic cover on the steering column and using a USB cable to start the engine.

The Michigan State Police is reminding Kia and Hyundai owners these anti-theft steering wheel locks are available at state police posts, free of charge courtesy of Hyundai. Both Kia and Hyundai are offering free "fixes" to make the older vehicles safer. Engine immobilizers are now standard on all Hyundai and Kia vehicles produced since November 2021.
This theft problem started on social media. Videos... (show quote)


In response to increasing thefts targeting vehicles without push-button ignitions and immobilizing anti-theft devices in the United States, Hyundai is introducing a free anti-theft software upgrade to prevent the vehicles from starting during a method of theft popularized on TikTok and other social media channels.
I received a notice last year from the dealership where I bought my 2016 Sonata (new) to make an appointment to get the free anti-theft software.

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Sep 7, 2023 21:37:40   #
F.D.R.
 
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)


Since my first car in 1959 until these 'smart' keys came along I always left my key in the ignition and the doors unlocked and usually a few dollars in loose change in plain view in the center console EVEN when I took a job as a live in maintenance supervisor in an all black community. Yes, I was the only white person among approximate 600 blacks. My car was never touched. Like today I don't lock the door to my home. Why? If someone is determined to get into your car or home they'll do a lot of damage to do so. My theory is you can walk in if you want, walking out is another story.

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Sep 8, 2023 08:57:36   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Parky60 wrote:
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York Times -- and the moron leftists on OPP probably agree with it: “Kia and Hyundai Helped Enable a Crime Wave. They Should Pay for It.”

Wait, you ask: Are Kia and Hyundai hiring gangs of criminals to steal each other's vehicles? Not exactly. Apparently, they just didn't take enough precautions to prevent people from stealing their vehicles.

I'm not kidding.

According to the Council on Criminal Justice, the number of vehicle thefts during the first half of 2023 was 33.5% higher on average than during the same period in 2022. As data from Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, New Orleans, Buffalo and Durham, North Carolina showed, motor vehicle thefts have more than doubled this year relative to last year, according to statistics.

Why are so many cars getting stolen? Apparently it’s the fault of the car. The car wanted it. It needed to be stolen. That's the way this works. It's not the criminal — the car was just sitting there — the criminal was not a criminal.

It was just someone like you walking down the street like a normal human, never having stolen a car in your life, and there you saw it in the pure summer sunshine, a Kia. And you say to yourself, “Let's do this thing. The time has come. That is the easiest car to steal.”

So, drawn like a moth to the flame, you walked over to the Kia and you said, “That might not be a very nice car, I wasn't desperate for any of Kia's brands, but now that I see it gleaming in the summer sunshine and I know it's super easy to steal, I — a lifelong law-abiding citizen — have decided to steal the Kia.”

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Try this: There was a knife. It was sitting there in plain sight, and you were just drawn to it. You couldn't stop yourself and so you stabbed your friend in the eyeball. You should probably sue the knife manufacturer.

Apparently, Hyundai and Kia did not equip some of their cars with electronic immobilizer devices that prevent cars from starting unless they detect a radio I.D. code associated with the car's rightful key. A couple of years ago, videos showing how to hotwire the vulnerable cars began to pop-up online.

Hundreds of the stolen cars have been involved in numerous deadly crashes, armed robbery sprees, and other crimes around the country.

But the thieves are not to blame for this. It was the car’s fault. I simply can't believe they programmed these cars to perform armed robbery. Did you know that if you create a product that when it is stolen, it is your fault?

This is how dumb we've become. How about some basic level of personal responsibility? Ah, but that might require more police, more active policing, more throwing criminals in jail and leaving them in jail.

This is truly basic stuff, but not to those morons at The New York Times or the leftists on OPP.
Here’s a truly dumb take, courtesy of The New York... (show quote)


Don't know why you're surprised, guns do it all the time. They just get bored and go out there and start shooting. The criminals have no choice in the matter, the gun's make it happen!!!!

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