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Sep 2, 2023 16:21:17   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while the GOP in pointless debate wonders if it can dare pardon the former president.

The Republican primary debate charade, hosted by a hapless Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, revealed two things: Vivek Ramaswamy is a rising star, and Donald Trump dominated as the elephant not in the room.

The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and obvious enemy who clearly need to be fought. The Republicans are worse because they don’t see their own participation in the Big Lie. They would rather step over Trump’s dead political body than save the republic. In so doing, they will never have power again, even if they regain it. They will be vassals of the state apparatus, nothing more … or else.

Donald Trump is not the Republican front runner. He’s the presumptive nominee. Further, he’s the most popular politician in America. Trump created a coalition that made the Rust Belt winnable. He turned Ohio, Florida, and Iowa reliably red. He made Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin gettable. In Florida, he out-won Ron DeSantis by 1 million votes.

Why the all-out assault on Donald Trump? Because in a fair system, he wins — and he wins bigly.

The assault on Trump and anyone who supported him is an attack on the only one standing in the way of generations of Democrat power, and the Republicans are pretending that America and the Republican Party can return to a Bush-era neocon Republicanism that simply doesn’t exist anymore outside the beltway.

How, pray tell, would any of the Republicans on the debate stage win in the general election? Where do they win, and how do they expand Trump’s coalition? Is their big strategy to win back Georgia and Arizona?

Only one candidate on the debate stage tangentially dealt with this reality: Vivek Ramaswamy. That every other Republican doesn’t understand the heart of the lie was revealed by Vivek. He knows that the biggest issue facing the republic is the disintegration of the rule of law surrounding the persecution and baseless prosecution of Donald Trump and anyone who supports him. Here’s his exchange with Chris Christie, Democrat operative.

The question is: Why are the rest of this Republican field okay with winning this way? How can any Republican govern if voters can’t canvass, can’t protest, can’t speak on social media, if no attorneys can advise Republican candidates, if strategy callers can’t brainstorm ideas for winning, if legitimate lawsuits are dismissed out of hand, if free speech is not allowed? How can Republicans win against sophisticated vote-running machines? How do they win against faked, duped, and dumped ballots? How do they win against millions of dollars laundered through accounts where people didn’t actually donate to the Democrat Party? How do they win against the new Zuck Bucks? Is something magical going to happen in 2024 that sweeps these issues away?

Now that the Democrats, the State, and the media have created a playing field where they alone win, what will the uncharismatic, unserious Republicans on the debate stage do to win?

The debate questions were inane. Why did these Fox talking heads blab about whether Mike Pence did the right thing? Chris Christie, in an act of sexual servicing too shameless for even the seediest blue district, extolled Pence as a defender of the Constitution, God, and country. It was so risible that the audience laughed. Who do these folks think they’re kidding?

Speaking of Pence, he came off as a constipated church lady. A raging hypocritical one, at that. Of all people, he knows the injustice being served cold to Trump, and he cannot let charitable words pass his mouth.

Where were the questions about Biden’s corruption? What about the bribes? Why was the question about a man who is not holding office when the man holding office is compromised by America’s enemies? Just in the last few days, the Daily Mail reports that the Bidens are alleged to have taken foreign bribes.

Further, why didn’t the Republicans on the stage address Maui and the massacre there? How about plans for an economy wrecked by Joe Biden and the plight of the poor and working class? Gas prices are increasing again. Groceries are so expensive that it costs $72 for the main ingredients of a spaghetti dinner. How about the failed states attempting to impose masks and restrictions when the data is clear that they do more harm than good? Are shutdowns coming? These issues affect voters every day. Meanwhile, the Republicans wax eloquent on Ukraine.

Truth has left the Republican Party, and it’s diminishing them, if that’s even possible. They can talk of the border. They can pontificate about the world-changing necessity of making Ukraine secure. They can tell everyone what they already know: Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. Noted. Now, how about something more pressing and closer to home? How about addressing the criminalization of free speech? How about addressing the conditions of Jan. 6 defendants? How about addressing using the justice system to bankrupt and persecute political enemies? How about addressing the raw, unchecked power being thrown around by the Biden administration?

Examine this list of Democrats criminalizing political enemies:

• Arizona considers prosecutions of Trump electors.
• Michigan prosecutes 16 GOP activists, including an opponent of the Michigan attorney general.
• Michigan then charges attorneys, like Stefanie Lambert.
• Wisconsin governor calls for prosecutions (meanwhile, Republicans stayed home, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court now is in Democrat hands).
• The Georgia 19 are being charged for discussing election strategies.
• USMC veteran Harrison Floyd is still jailed. This is an outrage. Again, the Fulton County jail is a place for enemies of the state. Floyd is being hounded by the feds.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden brags in a tweet as Trump gets prosecuted for his tweets:



Republicans don’t mention the Jan. 6 prisoners. There’s no recompense for those brought before the Jan. 6 Committee, the one that destroyed evidence. The Jan. 6 footage is still not released.

Donald Trump is facing more than 90 charges and 700 years in prison. The Republican response to this travesty of justice? Meekly raising hands saying they’d pardon him, maybe, if they became president — which will not happen in 2024 and probably not ever.

The enemy isn’t out there somewhere. Well, it is. But guess what? The average American citizen has much less to fear without than within.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation placed agents in Catholic churches to look for dissidents. The DOJ is prosecuting people and dropping charges at the last minute, just to make people suffer. The persecution is the point. Across the fruited plains, American citizens doing perfectly legal things are being arrested because they deign to disagree.

Republicans respond by whistling past the graveyard in a meaningless debate debating meaningless things.

Donald Trump is an inconvenient truth exposing the corruption of a corrupted elite. His persecution, and those of his followers, is putting the whole system on trial, and America is being found wanting. The Democrats, run by communists who would happily burn the system down in service to ideology, are being aided and abetted by Republicans who put personal ambition and hatred of Trump over love of country.

Step outside the debate and see it for what it really is: a sideshow to mollify the wicked and stupid. Not one of these candidates can win the nomination, and should the powers that be succeed in jailing or killing Donald Trump, not one can win the presidency. And if, by some random “chance,” a Republican does win the presidency, he or she will be a pleasing suit presiding over nothing and serving at the pleasure of masters greater than any one of them.

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Sep 2, 2023 16:47:44   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Parky60 wrote:
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while the GOP in pointless debate wonders if it can dare pardon the former president.

The Republican primary debate charade, hosted by a hapless Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, revealed two things: Vivek Ramaswamy is a rising star, and Donald Trump dominated as the elephant not in the room.

The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and obvious enemy who clearly need to be fought. The Republicans are worse because they don’t see their own participation in the Big Lie. They would rather step over Trump’s dead political body than save the republic. In so doing, they will never have power again, even if they regain it. They will be vassals of the state apparatus, nothing more … or else.

Donald Trump is not the Republican front runner. He’s the presumptive nominee. Further, he’s the most popular politician in America. Trump created a coalition that made the Rust Belt winnable. He turned Ohio, Florida, and Iowa reliably red. He made Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin gettable. In Florida, he out-won Ron DeSantis by 1 million votes.

Why the all-out assault on Donald Trump? Because in a fair system, he wins — and he wins bigly.

The assault on Trump and anyone who supported him is an attack on the only one standing in the way of generations of Democrat power, and the Republicans are pretending that America and the Republican Party can return to a Bush-era neocon Republicanism that simply doesn’t exist anymore outside the beltway.

How, pray tell, would any of the Republicans on the debate stage win in the general election? Where do they win, and how do they expand Trump’s coalition? Is their big strategy to win back Georgia and Arizona?

Only one candidate on the debate stage tangentially dealt with this reality: Vivek Ramaswamy. That every other Republican doesn’t understand the heart of the lie was revealed by Vivek. He knows that the biggest issue facing the republic is the disintegration of the rule of law surrounding the persecution and baseless prosecution of Donald Trump and anyone who supports him. Here’s his exchange with Chris Christie, Democrat operative.

The question is: Why are the rest of this Republican field okay with winning this way? How can any Republican govern if voters can’t canvass, can’t protest, can’t speak on social media, if no attorneys can advise Republican candidates, if strategy callers can’t brainstorm ideas for winning, if legitimate lawsuits are dismissed out of hand, if free speech is not allowed? How can Republicans win against sophisticated vote-running machines? How do they win against faked, duped, and dumped ballots? How do they win against millions of dollars laundered through accounts where people didn’t actually donate to the Democrat Party? How do they win against the new Zuck Bucks? Is something magical going to happen in 2024 that sweeps these issues away?

Now that the Democrats, the State, and the media have created a playing field where they alone win, what will the uncharismatic, unserious Republicans on the debate stage do to win?

The debate questions were inane. Why did these Fox talking heads blab about whether Mike Pence did the right thing? Chris Christie, in an act of sexual servicing too shameless for even the seediest blue district, extolled Pence as a defender of the Constitution, God, and country. It was so risible that the audience laughed. Who do these folks think they’re kidding?

Speaking of Pence, he came off as a constipated church lady. A raging hypocritical one, at that. Of all people, he knows the injustice being served cold to Trump, and he cannot let charitable words pass his mouth.

Where were the questions about Biden’s corruption? What about the bribes? Why was the question about a man who is not holding office when the man holding office is compromised by America’s enemies? Just in the last few days, the Daily Mail reports that the Bidens are alleged to have taken foreign bribes.

Further, why didn’t the Republicans on the stage address Maui and the massacre there? How about plans for an economy wrecked by Joe Biden and the plight of the poor and working class? Gas prices are increasing again. Groceries are so expensive that it costs $72 for the main ingredients of a spaghetti dinner. How about the failed states attempting to impose masks and restrictions when the data is clear that they do more harm than good? Are shutdowns coming? These issues affect voters every day. Meanwhile, the Republicans wax eloquent on Ukraine.

Truth has left the Republican Party, and it’s diminishing them, if that’s even possible. They can talk of the border. They can pontificate about the world-changing necessity of making Ukraine secure. They can tell everyone what they already know: Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. Noted. Now, how about something more pressing and closer to home? How about addressing the criminalization of free speech? How about addressing the conditions of Jan. 6 defendants? How about addressing using the justice system to bankrupt and persecute political enemies? How about addressing the raw, unchecked power being thrown around by the Biden administration?

Examine this list of Democrats criminalizing political enemies:

• Arizona considers prosecutions of Trump electors.
• Michigan prosecutes 16 GOP activists, including an opponent of the Michigan attorney general.
• Michigan then charges attorneys, like Stefanie Lambert.
• Wisconsin governor calls for prosecutions (meanwhile, Republicans stayed home, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court now is in Democrat hands).
• The Georgia 19 are being charged for discussing election strategies.
• USMC veteran Harrison Floyd is still jailed. This is an outrage. Again, the Fulton County jail is a place for enemies of the state. Floyd is being hounded by the feds.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden brags in a tweet as Trump gets prosecuted for his tweets:



Republicans don’t mention the Jan. 6 prisoners. There’s no recompense for those brought before the Jan. 6 Committee, the one that destroyed evidence. The Jan. 6 footage is still not released.

Donald Trump is facing more than 90 charges and 700 years in prison. The Republican response to this travesty of justice? Meekly raising hands saying they’d pardon him, maybe, if they became president — which will not happen in 2024 and probably not ever.

The enemy isn’t out there somewhere. Well, it is. But guess what? The average American citizen has much less to fear without than within.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation placed agents in Catholic churches to look for dissidents. The DOJ is prosecuting people and dropping charges at the last minute, just to make people suffer. The persecution is the point. Across the fruited plains, American citizens doing perfectly legal things are being arrested because they deign to disagree.

Republicans respond by whistling past the graveyard in a meaningless debate debating meaningless things.

Donald Trump is an inconvenient truth exposing the corruption of a corrupted elite. His persecution, and those of his followers, is putting the whole system on trial, and America is being found wanting. The Democrats, run by communists who would happily burn the system down in service to ideology, are being aided and abetted by Republicans who put personal ambition and hatred of Trump over love of country.

Step outside the debate and see it for what it really is: a sideshow to mollify the wicked and stupid. Not one of these candidates can win the nomination, and should the powers that be succeed in jailing or killing Donald Trump, not one can win the presidency. And if, by some random “chance,” a Republican does win the presidency, he or she will be a pleasing suit presiding over nothing and serving at the pleasure of masters greater than any one of them.
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while... (show quote)



DAMN! Great thought provoking post! You hit that one out of the ballpark

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Sep 2, 2023 17:27:56   #
Knightlady
 
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow a pair, push up their sleeves and get back to fixing the country. If you are going to do an impeachment inquiry then DO IT NOW. Start supenas now. Get Weiss and Garland up there. Get the National Archives to release ALL of said emails. Get the heads of the FBI, CIA, IRS and the rest of the alphabet soup to answer some questions. Truthfully. Make it fast and quick so they don't have too much time to prepare. Hold the 1/6 committee accountable for destroying most of all the "evidence" . They still haven't turned over the video tape of that day. But DO IT NOW

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Sep 2, 2023 19:12:53   #
steve66613
 
Knightlady wrote:
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow a pair, push up their sleeves and get back to fixing the country. If you are going to do an impeachment inquiry then DO IT NOW. Start supenas now. Get Weiss and Garland up there. Get the National Archives to release ALL of said emails. Get the heads of the FBI, CIA, IRS and the rest of the alphabet soup to answer some questions. Truthfully. Make it fast and quick so they don't have too much time to prepare. Hold the 1/6 committee accountable for destroying most of all the "evidence" . They still haven't turned over the video tape of that day. But DO IT NOW
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow ... (show quote)


Sadly….it isn’t going to happen. All that’s left is; for us to sit around a philosophize about why it didn’t happen.

The current government is comprised of 535 political elites whose only motivation is to retain their power, for as long as they can, in order to enrich their families and themselves.

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Sep 2, 2023 19:46:55   #
Knightlady
 
Yeah, I know. Wishful thinking.

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Sep 2, 2023 20:03:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Knightlady wrote:
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow a pair, push up their sleeves and get back to fixing the country. If you are going to do an impeachment inquiry then DO IT NOW. Start supenas now. Get Weiss and Garland up there. Get the National Archives to release ALL of said emails. Get the heads of the FBI, CIA, IRS and the rest of the alphabet soup to answer some questions. Truthfully. Make it fast and quick so they don't have too much time to prepare. Hold the 1/6 committee accountable for destroying most of all the "evidence" . They still haven't turned over the video tape of that day. But DO IT NOW
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow ... (show quote)


That’s the problem , they can’t because they’re owned already .bits not that they have no balls . It’s that they have zero to offer anyone but rich people tax breaks. They vote NO in congress for everything else. No vision for this Republic .
Other than totally get rid of democrats .
Well , that and not nary a plan comes from any of them.
They only want to skip over the political bullshit and assume power.
And then rewrite everything in their own images.Miscreants , deplorables , insouciants .
Undereducated teaching the undereducated masses .
What can go wrong there ?
The New Republic !!
With an IQ of 20.
Combined.
A party of nothing !!!!!
A party of only tax breaks for rich people.
That is what keeps their money rolling in , sadly !

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Sep 2, 2023 20:09:55   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Knightlady wrote:
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow a pair, push up their sleeves and get back to fixing the country. If you are going to do an impeachment inquiry then DO IT NOW. Start supenas now. Get Weiss and Garland up there. Get the National Archives to release ALL of said emails. Get the heads of the FBI, CIA, IRS and the rest of the alphabet soup to answer some questions. Truthfully. Make it fast and quick so they don't have too much time to prepare. Hold the 1/6 committee accountable for destroying most of all the "evidence" . They still haven't turned over the video tape of that day. But DO IT NOW
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow ... (show quote)



Now they’re destroying evidence !!! Of Course, they are . It was the evidence that would have cleared everyone of everything and burned it all up .
Now we’ll just need to let everyone go free !!!!

It’s irrelevant.
They already have enough wood for the biggest bonfire you’ll ever see.

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Sep 2, 2023 21:11:15   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while the GOP in pointless debate wonders if it can dare pardon the former president.

The Republican primary debate charade, hosted by a hapless Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, revealed two things: Vivek Ramaswamy is a rising star, and Donald Trump dominated as the elephant not in the room.

The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and obvious enemy who clearly need to be fought. The Republicans are worse because they don’t see their own participation in the Big Lie. They would rather step over Trump’s dead political body than save the republic. In so doing, they will never have power again, even if they regain it. They will be vassals of the state apparatus, nothing more … or else.

Donald Trump is not the Republican front runner. He’s the presumptive nominee. Further, he’s the most popular politician in America. Trump created a coalition that made the Rust Belt winnable. He turned Ohio, Florida, and Iowa reliably red. He made Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin gettable. In Florida, he out-won Ron DeSantis by 1 million votes.

Why the all-out assault on Donald Trump? Because in a fair system, he wins — and he wins bigly.

The assault on Trump and anyone who supported him is an attack on the only one standing in the way of generations of Democrat power, and the Republicans are pretending that America and the Republican Party can return to a Bush-era neocon Republicanism that simply doesn’t exist anymore outside the beltway.

How, pray tell, would any of the Republicans on the debate stage win in the general election? Where do they win, and how do they expand Trump’s coalition? Is their big strategy to win back Georgia and Arizona?

Only one candidate on the debate stage tangentially dealt with this reality: Vivek Ramaswamy. That every other Republican doesn’t understand the heart of the lie was revealed by Vivek. He knows that the biggest issue facing the republic is the disintegration of the rule of law surrounding the persecution and baseless prosecution of Donald Trump and anyone who supports him. Here’s his exchange with Chris Christie, Democrat operative.

The question is: Why are the rest of this Republican field okay with winning this way? How can any Republican govern if voters can’t canvass, can’t protest, can’t speak on social media, if no attorneys can advise Republican candidates, if strategy callers can’t brainstorm ideas for winning, if legitimate lawsuits are dismissed out of hand, if free speech is not allowed? How can Republicans win against sophisticated vote-running machines? How do they win against faked, duped, and dumped ballots? How do they win against millions of dollars laundered through accounts where people didn’t actually donate to the Democrat Party? How do they win against the new Zuck Bucks? Is something magical going to happen in 2024 that sweeps these issues away?

Now that the Democrats, the State, and the media have created a playing field where they alone win, what will the uncharismatic, unserious Republicans on the debate stage do to win?

The debate questions were inane. Why did these Fox talking heads blab about whether Mike Pence did the right thing? Chris Christie, in an act of sexual servicing too shameless for even the seediest blue district, extolled Pence as a defender of the Constitution, God, and country. It was so risible that the audience laughed. Who do these folks think they’re kidding?

Speaking of Pence, he came off as a constipated church lady. A raging hypocritical one, at that. Of all people, he knows the injustice being served cold to Trump, and he cannot let charitable words pass his mouth.

Where were the questions about Biden’s corruption? What about the bribes? Why was the question about a man who is not holding office when the man holding office is compromised by America’s enemies? Just in the last few days, the Daily Mail reports that the Bidens are alleged to have taken foreign bribes.

Further, why didn’t the Republicans on the stage address Maui and the massacre there? How about plans for an economy wrecked by Joe Biden and the plight of the poor and working class? Gas prices are increasing again. Groceries are so expensive that it costs $72 for the main ingredients of a spaghetti dinner. How about the failed states attempting to impose masks and restrictions when the data is clear that they do more harm than good? Are shutdowns coming? These issues affect voters every day. Meanwhile, the Republicans wax eloquent on Ukraine.

Truth has left the Republican Party, and it’s diminishing them, if that’s even possible. They can talk of the border. They can pontificate about the world-changing necessity of making Ukraine secure. They can tell everyone what they already know: Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. Noted. Now, how about something more pressing and closer to home? How about addressing the criminalization of free speech? How about addressing the conditions of Jan. 6 defendants? How about addressing using the justice system to bankrupt and persecute political enemies? How about addressing the raw, unchecked power being thrown around by the Biden administration?

Examine this list of Democrats criminalizing political enemies:

• Arizona considers prosecutions of Trump electors.
• Michigan prosecutes 16 GOP activists, including an opponent of the Michigan attorney general.
• Michigan then charges attorneys, like Stefanie Lambert.
• Wisconsin governor calls for prosecutions (meanwhile, Republicans stayed home, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court now is in Democrat hands).
• The Georgia 19 are being charged for discussing election strategies.
• USMC veteran Harrison Floyd is still jailed. This is an outrage. Again, the Fulton County jail is a place for enemies of the state. Floyd is being hounded by the feds.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden brags in a tweet as Trump gets prosecuted for his tweets:



Republicans don’t mention the Jan. 6 prisoners. There’s no recompense for those brought before the Jan. 6 Committee, the one that destroyed evidence. The Jan. 6 footage is still not released.

Donald Trump is facing more than 90 charges and 700 years in prison. The Republican response to this travesty of justice? Meekly raising hands saying they’d pardon him, maybe, if they became president — which will not happen in 2024 and probably not ever.

The enemy isn’t out there somewhere. Well, it is. But guess what? The average American citizen has much less to fear without than within.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation placed agents in Catholic churches to look for dissidents. The DOJ is prosecuting people and dropping charges at the last minute, just to make people suffer. The persecution is the point. Across the fruited plains, American citizens doing perfectly legal things are being arrested because they deign to disagree.

Republicans respond by whistling past the graveyard in a meaningless debate debating meaningless things.

Donald Trump is an inconvenient truth exposing the corruption of a corrupted elite. His persecution, and those of his followers, is putting the whole system on trial, and America is being found wanting. The Democrats, run by communists who would happily burn the system down in service to ideology, are being aided and abetted by Republicans who put personal ambition and hatred of Trump over love of country.

Step outside the debate and see it for what it really is: a sideshow to mollify the wicked and stupid. Not one of these candidates can win the nomination, and should the powers that be succeed in jailing or killing Donald Trump, not one can win the presidency. And if, by some random “chance,” a Republican does win the presidency, he or she will be a pleasing suit presiding over nothing and serving at the pleasure of masters greater than any one of them.
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while... (show quote)


If they truly are not crooks and thieves , how are they being criminalized ?
By the laws already on the books ?
It’s called Justice .
Seeking Justice for criminal behavior is not new, nor is it a criminalization of anyone.
If they are criminals, it’s through their own doing.
Not by the democrats.
Trump is a grand example.
It isn’t the Dems fault that trump was caught red handed in so many potential felonies. Upholding the law is a job every American should be endearing.
It’s trump , all trump.
Caught and then trying to alter reality.

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Sep 2, 2023 21:13:15   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Knightlady wrote:
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow a pair, push up their sleeves and get back to fixing the country. If you are going to do an impeachment inquiry then DO IT NOW. Start supenas now. Get Weiss and Garland up there. Get the National Archives to release ALL of said emails. Get the heads of the FBI, CIA, IRS and the rest of the alphabet soup to answer some questions. Truthfully. Make it fast and quick so they don't have too much time to prepare. Hold the 1/6 committee accountable for destroying most of all the "evidence" . They still haven't turned over the video tape of that day. But DO IT NOW
I agree about the Republicans. They need to grow ... (show quote)


I think you’re missing the point here , dear lady .

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Sep 2, 2023 21:25:15   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
steve66613 wrote:
Sadly….it isn’t going to happen. All that’s left is; for us to sit around a philosophize about why it didn’t happen.

The current government is comprised of 535 political elites whose only motivation is to retain their power, for as long as they can, in order to enrich their families and themselves.


Correctly stated

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Sep 2, 2023 21:27:12   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Parky60 wrote:
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while the GOP in pointless debate wonders if it can dare pardon the former president.

The Republican primary debate charade, hosted by a hapless Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, revealed two things: Vivek Ramaswamy is a rising star, and Donald Trump dominated as the elephant not in the room.

The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and obvious enemy who clearly need to be fought. The Republicans are worse because they don’t see their own participation in the Big Lie. They would rather step over Trump’s dead political body than save the republic. In so doing, they will never have power again, even if they regain it. They will be vassals of the state apparatus, nothing more … or else.

Donald Trump is not the Republican front runner. He’s the presumptive nominee. Further, he’s the most popular politician in America. Trump created a coalition that made the Rust Belt winnable. He turned Ohio, Florida, and Iowa reliably red. He made Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin gettable. In Florida, he out-won Ron DeSantis by 1 million votes.

Why the all-out assault on Donald Trump? Because in a fair system, he wins — and he wins bigly.

The assault on Trump and anyone who supported him is an attack on the only one standing in the way of generations of Democrat power, and the Republicans are pretending that America and the Republican Party can return to a Bush-era neocon Republicanism that simply doesn’t exist anymore outside the beltway.

How, pray tell, would any of the Republicans on the debate stage win in the general election? Where do they win, and how do they expand Trump’s coalition? Is their big strategy to win back Georgia and Arizona?

Only one candidate on the debate stage tangentially dealt with this reality: Vivek Ramaswamy. That every other Republican doesn’t understand the heart of the lie was revealed by Vivek. He knows that the biggest issue facing the republic is the disintegration of the rule of law surrounding the persecution and baseless prosecution of Donald Trump and anyone who supports him. Here’s his exchange with Chris Christie, Democrat operative.

The question is: Why are the rest of this Republican field okay with winning this way? How can any Republican govern if voters can’t canvass, can’t protest, can’t speak on social media, if no attorneys can advise Republican candidates, if strategy callers can’t brainstorm ideas for winning, if legitimate lawsuits are dismissed out of hand, if free speech is not allowed? How can Republicans win against sophisticated vote-running machines? How do they win against faked, duped, and dumped ballots? How do they win against millions of dollars laundered through accounts where people didn’t actually donate to the Democrat Party? How do they win against the new Zuck Bucks? Is something magical going to happen in 2024 that sweeps these issues away?

Now that the Democrats, the State, and the media have created a playing field where they alone win, what will the uncharismatic, unserious Republicans on the debate stage do to win?

The debate questions were inane. Why did these Fox talking heads blab about whether Mike Pence did the right thing? Chris Christie, in an act of sexual servicing too shameless for even the seediest blue district, extolled Pence as a defender of the Constitution, God, and country. It was so risible that the audience laughed. Who do these folks think they’re kidding?

Speaking of Pence, he came off as a constipated church lady. A raging hypocritical one, at that. Of all people, he knows the injustice being served cold to Trump, and he cannot let charitable words pass his mouth.

Where were the questions about Biden’s corruption? What about the bribes? Why was the question about a man who is not holding office when the man holding office is compromised by America’s enemies? Just in the last few days, the Daily Mail reports that the Bidens are alleged to have taken foreign bribes.

Further, why didn’t the Republicans on the stage address Maui and the massacre there? How about plans for an economy wrecked by Joe Biden and the plight of the poor and working class? Gas prices are increasing again. Groceries are so expensive that it costs $72 for the main ingredients of a spaghetti dinner. How about the failed states attempting to impose masks and restrictions when the data is clear that they do more harm than good? Are shutdowns coming? These issues affect voters every day. Meanwhile, the Republicans wax eloquent on Ukraine.

Truth has left the Republican Party, and it’s diminishing them, if that’s even possible. They can talk of the border. They can pontificate about the world-changing necessity of making Ukraine secure. They can tell everyone what they already know: Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. Noted. Now, how about something more pressing and closer to home? How about addressing the criminalization of free speech? How about addressing the conditions of Jan. 6 defendants? How about addressing using the justice system to bankrupt and persecute political enemies? How about addressing the raw, unchecked power being thrown around by the Biden administration?

Examine this list of Democrats criminalizing political enemies:

• Arizona considers prosecutions of Trump electors.
• Michigan prosecutes 16 GOP activists, including an opponent of the Michigan attorney general.
• Michigan then charges attorneys, like Stefanie Lambert.
• Wisconsin governor calls for prosecutions (meanwhile, Republicans stayed home, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court now is in Democrat hands).
• The Georgia 19 are being charged for discussing election strategies.
• USMC veteran Harrison Floyd is still jailed. This is an outrage. Again, the Fulton County jail is a place for enemies of the state. Floyd is being hounded by the feds.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden brags in a tweet as Trump gets prosecuted for his tweets:



Republicans don’t mention the Jan. 6 prisoners. There’s no recompense for those brought before the Jan. 6 Committee, the one that destroyed evidence. The Jan. 6 footage is still not released.

Donald Trump is facing more than 90 charges and 700 years in prison. The Republican response to this travesty of justice? Meekly raising hands saying they’d pardon him, maybe, if they became president — which will not happen in 2024 and probably not ever.

The enemy isn’t out there somewhere. Well, it is. But guess what? The average American citizen has much less to fear without than within.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation placed agents in Catholic churches to look for dissidents. The DOJ is prosecuting people and dropping charges at the last minute, just to make people suffer. The persecution is the point. Across the fruited plains, American citizens doing perfectly legal things are being arrested because they deign to disagree.

Republicans respond by whistling past the graveyard in a meaningless debate debating meaningless things.

Donald Trump is an inconvenient truth exposing the corruption of a corrupted elite. His persecution, and those of his followers, is putting the whole system on trial, and America is being found wanting. The Democrats, run by communists who would happily burn the system down in service to ideology, are being aided and abetted by Republicans who put personal ambition and hatred of Trump over love of country.

Step outside the debate and see it for what it really is: a sideshow to mollify the wicked and stupid. Not one of these candidates can win the nomination, and should the powers that be succeed in jailing or killing Donald Trump, not one can win the presidency. And if, by some random “chance,” a Republican does win the presidency, he or she will be a pleasing suit presiding over nothing and serving at the pleasure of masters greater than any one of them.
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I like the Republican party the way it is now---He HE He

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Sep 2, 2023 21:57:12   #
steve66613
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That’s the problem , they can’t because they’re owned already .bits not that they have no balls . It’s that they have zero to offer anyone but rich people tax breaks. They vote NO in congress for everything else. No vision for this Republic .
Other than totally get rid of democrats .
Well , that and not nary a plan comes from any of them.
They only want to skip over the political bullshit and assume power.
And then rewrite everything in their own images.Miscreants , deplorables , insouciants .
Undereducated teaching the undereducated masses .
What can go wrong there ?
The New Republic !!
With an IQ of 20.
Combined.
A party of nothing !!!!!
A party of only tax breaks for rich people.
That is what keeps their money rolling in , sadly !
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There ya’ go with that “tax breaks for rich” schitt. All the elites are DEMOCRATS…leftist ones….with Marxist leanings…ya’ hypocrite!

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Sep 2, 2023 22:16:55   #
Ricktloml
 
Parky60 wrote:
The rule of law has been crushed in America, while the GOP in pointless debate wonders if it can dare pardon the former president.

The Republican primary debate charade, hosted by a hapless Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, revealed two things: Vivek Ramaswamy is a rising star, and Donald Trump dominated as the elephant not in the room.

The Democrats and the media run a constant clown show, but the Republicans play along as useless puppets, willfully participating in a system designed to destroy them. The Republican party is allowing itself to be rigged by playing by the rules of an old system that no longer exists. The Democrats, bureaucracy, and media are vicious apparatchiks. They are a dirty and obvious enemy who clearly need to be fought. The Republicans are worse because they don’t see their own participation in the Big Lie. They would rather step over Trump’s dead political body than save the republic. In so doing, they will never have power again, even if they regain it. They will be vassals of the state apparatus, nothing more … or else.

Donald Trump is not the Republican front runner. He’s the presumptive nominee. Further, he’s the most popular politician in America. Trump created a coalition that made the Rust Belt winnable. He turned Ohio, Florida, and Iowa reliably red. He made Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin gettable. In Florida, he out-won Ron DeSantis by 1 million votes.

Why the all-out assault on Donald Trump? Because in a fair system, he wins — and he wins bigly.

The assault on Trump and anyone who supported him is an attack on the only one standing in the way of generations of Democrat power, and the Republicans are pretending that America and the Republican Party can return to a Bush-era neocon Republicanism that simply doesn’t exist anymore outside the beltway.

How, pray tell, would any of the Republicans on the debate stage win in the general election? Where do they win, and how do they expand Trump’s coalition? Is their big strategy to win back Georgia and Arizona?

Only one candidate on the debate stage tangentially dealt with this reality: Vivek Ramaswamy. That every other Republican doesn’t understand the heart of the lie was revealed by Vivek. He knows that the biggest issue facing the republic is the disintegration of the rule of law surrounding the persecution and baseless prosecution of Donald Trump and anyone who supports him. Here’s his exchange with Chris Christie, Democrat operative.

The question is: Why are the rest of this Republican field okay with winning this way? How can any Republican govern if voters can’t canvass, can’t protest, can’t speak on social media, if no attorneys can advise Republican candidates, if strategy callers can’t brainstorm ideas for winning, if legitimate lawsuits are dismissed out of hand, if free speech is not allowed? How can Republicans win against sophisticated vote-running machines? How do they win against faked, duped, and dumped ballots? How do they win against millions of dollars laundered through accounts where people didn’t actually donate to the Democrat Party? How do they win against the new Zuck Bucks? Is something magical going to happen in 2024 that sweeps these issues away?

Now that the Democrats, the State, and the media have created a playing field where they alone win, what will the uncharismatic, unserious Republicans on the debate stage do to win?

The debate questions were inane. Why did these Fox talking heads blab about whether Mike Pence did the right thing? Chris Christie, in an act of sexual servicing too shameless for even the seediest blue district, extolled Pence as a defender of the Constitution, God, and country. It was so risible that the audience laughed. Who do these folks think they’re kidding?

Speaking of Pence, he came off as a constipated church lady. A raging hypocritical one, at that. Of all people, he knows the injustice being served cold to Trump, and he cannot let charitable words pass his mouth.

Where were the questions about Biden’s corruption? What about the bribes? Why was the question about a man who is not holding office when the man holding office is compromised by America’s enemies? Just in the last few days, the Daily Mail reports that the Bidens are alleged to have taken foreign bribes.

Further, why didn’t the Republicans on the stage address Maui and the massacre there? How about plans for an economy wrecked by Joe Biden and the plight of the poor and working class? Gas prices are increasing again. Groceries are so expensive that it costs $72 for the main ingredients of a spaghetti dinner. How about the failed states attempting to impose masks and restrictions when the data is clear that they do more harm than good? Are shutdowns coming? These issues affect voters every day. Meanwhile, the Republicans wax eloquent on Ukraine.

Truth has left the Republican Party, and it’s diminishing them, if that’s even possible. They can talk of the border. They can pontificate about the world-changing necessity of making Ukraine secure. They can tell everyone what they already know: Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. Noted. Now, how about something more pressing and closer to home? How about addressing the criminalization of free speech? How about addressing the conditions of Jan. 6 defendants? How about addressing using the justice system to bankrupt and persecute political enemies? How about addressing the raw, unchecked power being thrown around by the Biden administration?

Examine this list of Democrats criminalizing political enemies:

• Arizona considers prosecutions of Trump electors.
• Michigan prosecutes 16 GOP activists, including an opponent of the Michigan attorney general.
• Michigan then charges attorneys, like Stefanie Lambert.
• Wisconsin governor calls for prosecutions (meanwhile, Republicans stayed home, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court now is in Democrat hands).
• The Georgia 19 are being charged for discussing election strategies.
• USMC veteran Harrison Floyd is still jailed. This is an outrage. Again, the Fulton County jail is a place for enemies of the state. Floyd is being hounded by the feds.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden brags in a tweet as Trump gets prosecuted for his tweets:



Republicans don’t mention the Jan. 6 prisoners. There’s no recompense for those brought before the Jan. 6 Committee, the one that destroyed evidence. The Jan. 6 footage is still not released.

Donald Trump is facing more than 90 charges and 700 years in prison. The Republican response to this travesty of justice? Meekly raising hands saying they’d pardon him, maybe, if they became president — which will not happen in 2024 and probably not ever.

The enemy isn’t out there somewhere. Well, it is. But guess what? The average American citizen has much less to fear without than within.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation placed agents in Catholic churches to look for dissidents. The DOJ is prosecuting people and dropping charges at the last minute, just to make people suffer. The persecution is the point. Across the fruited plains, American citizens doing perfectly legal things are being arrested because they deign to disagree.

Republicans respond by whistling past the graveyard in a meaningless debate debating meaningless things.

Donald Trump is an inconvenient truth exposing the corruption of a corrupted elite. His persecution, and those of his followers, is putting the whole system on trial, and America is being found wanting. The Democrats, run by communists who would happily burn the system down in service to ideology, are being aided and abetted by Republicans who put personal ambition and hatred of Trump over love of country.

Step outside the debate and see it for what it really is: a sideshow to mollify the wicked and stupid. Not one of these candidates can win the nomination, and should the powers that be succeed in jailing or killing Donald Trump, not one can win the presidency. And if, by some random “chance,” a Republican does win the presidency, he or she will be a pleasing suit presiding over nothing and serving at the pleasure of masters greater than any one of them.
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Geez, if I didn't know that God Almighty was in charge, the way the American-Left/Democrat-Communist Party are running/ruining the country, and the spineless/self-serving/opportunistic Republicans are doing what they do best...turning a blind-eye to all the corruption/abuse of power in their usual blind/deaf/mute desire to go-along-to-get-along...it might make me nervous

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Sep 2, 2023 23:04:30   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I like the Republican party the way it is now---He HE He

And you claim to have a clue.

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Sep 2, 2023 23:23:34   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Geez, if I didn't know that God Almighty was in charge, the way the American-Left/Democrat-Communist Party are running/ruining the country, and the spineless/self-serving/opportunistic Republicans are doing what they do best...turning a blind-eye to all the corruption/abuse of power in their usual blind/deaf/mute desire to go-along-to-get-along...it might make me nervous


God is in charge. And I’m sure glad that He knows me!

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