Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

You use the English word translated “know” without even understanding its meaning.

Ginosko, most often translated as “know” or “known” is a word that means so much more than that. This word implies a certain type of knowing that is perhaps best explained in several English words. In English the best way to translate it would probably be to personally, intimately, and experientially know something. As you can see it doesn’t really just mean to know about something but to have known it through personal experience. In light of this ginosko could have times where it should not be translated to know at all but rather to experience but most of the time it indicates the knowledge that comes from experiencing something in an intimate or personal way. In this way it does exhibit times where it would occupy part of what we in English call love. There are places both in the New Testament (like in Mathew 1:25) and the Septuagint where this word is used in ways that implies physical intimacy of which produced children. One can see that this doesn’t mean to have head knowledge or understand something but to know something through intimate experience and there for this word could also inhibit and mean a part of what our English word love would mean. However, at its base this word should be translated to know some through intimate personal experience. It would be important to translate it in this way also because ginosko should be distinguished from another Greek word oida.

Oida is another word that most translators also translate as to “know” in most English Bibles. However, this word means something altogether different than ginosko’s personal or experiential knowledge but instead oida means head knowledge or perhaps better said to “understand” something through observation. With this in mind it could probably be better understood as scientific knowledge, things that are able to be known scientifically through observation and therefore could be translated as “observe” or “understand” to signify the type of knowing represented in the word

Ginosko vs Oida

Having said this, another way to distinguish ginosko from oida is that ginosko is relational, its knowing something because of an experience that allows you to intimately and personally know it. Meanwhile oida has nothing to do with relationship but a knowledge about something through observation. The amazing and fascinating thing to understand is that it is ginosko knowledge (that relational, personal, intimate, experiential knowledge) that Paul is constantly praying that we grow in throughout his letters. When we are exhorted throughout the New Testament to know God it is not oida that is used (we aren’t called to understand God) but instead much more we are called to ginosko Him (to experience Him in an personal and intimate way). Amazingly this means we are not called to observe Him and know things about Him but instead to experience Him personally and intimately. Oh, what an amazing God He is! How far beyond our understanding (Oida) and yet he wants us to know and experience Him in a personal and intimate way (Ginosko).

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Carlin is the topic. We both know that which we each holds dear.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

George Carlin is dead.
What do you hold dear and how much do you know about it?

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

You should know by now Blade that every time you challenge Rascal he either scurries away or comes up with some lame excuse to avoid debate. He's done it to me yet again in this thread.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Says he who relies on ‘ancient’ wisdom to justify and perpetuate current misconceptions.

I succumbed. 😂

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Please expound with examples.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The ancient wisdom to which you allude is as important today as it was when it was given to us,
I would say more so.

“Intelligence is how efficiently knowledge can be absorbed.
Wisdom is how efficiently knowledge can be applied.”

“Intelligence is the ability to answer questions,
Wisdom is asking the right ones.”

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Rose42

Only in your alternate reality

I said understand. Show some integrity and stop trying to move goalposts

martsiva

He sure wouldn`t be applauding the communist Democrats like you do!!

LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)

Oh Yes he certainly would be appalled that a con artist would have been elected.

samtheyank

Tell that to God when it happens! So many people think it is horse manure. When the everlasting quench of fire keeps hitting your body, you will realize you made a big mistake. There is no second chance. It is for eternity. I know you think I am a Screwball and I can’t think for myself. I hope one day that you meet the man himself like Paul did the road to Damascus.

newbear Loc: New York City

Parky60, God created so much "junk" throughout the galaxies so that he has lost track of all of it.

So now He is very grateful that at least the planet that calls itself "Earth" appropriated an organised religion around his random 'junk'. It is called "Christianity" there and He is pleased that somebody put some order into this chaeos.

This is my take on so called 'organised' religion, no sarcasm intended!!

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Good thing the universe has us.

martsiva

Yup - he would have been appalled at Biden in the White House!!