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Jul 20, 2023 19:56:16   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Never mind. I found it. It comes from ProPublica, an extreme left wing group who are playing numbers games to claim that the top 25 richest men are borrowing massive amounts of money, and therefore 'hiding' their wealth, and when THAT is figured in, they claim an average 'true rate' of 3.4% going to income tax, even though the IRS says those guys are paying something like 30% of their income.. It is all smoke and mirrors, because they want a WEALTH tax, not just an income tax.


Why do you think it’s ok for 3 people to own the
equivalent wealth of 60% of the population.
They didn’t work for it . It’s unearned income .
Homeless numbers are going up again . Why ?
Because they’re all worthless and weak ?
Only have basket weaving degrees. ?
Why .
In the richest country in the world , should all of the wealth be concentrated among the already morbidly rich .
People are now becoming homeless to make sure Elon makes it to become a Trillionaire !
How much is too much money for Elon and Jeff and their morbidly rich pals ???
Too much money for the few,
At the expense of the many.!!!
If the right is incapable of seeing what is truly happening here , then, we are so screwed.

3.4 % is still 3.4% ,no matter how Smokey or mirrorry it gets ! Do you think this is fair ?
Quite far from what you’ve been told about their broad shoulders carrying your tax burden alone.
3.4 % !
They don’t care if you believe it or not , they’re still laughing at youz all the way to the bank !!!!!

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Jul 20, 2023 23:14:52   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why do you think it’s ok for 3 people to own the
equivalent wealth of 60% of the population.
They didn’t work for it . It’s unearned income .
Homeless numbers are going up again . Why ?
Because they’re all worthless and weak ?
Only have basket weaving degrees. ?
Why .
In the richest country in the world , should all of the wealth be concentrated among the already morbidly rich .
People are now becoming homeless to make sure Elon makes it to become a Trillionaire !
How much is too much money for Elon and Jeff and their morbidly rich pals ???
Too much money for the few,
At the expense of the many.!!!
If the right is incapable of seeing what is truly happening here , then, we are so screwed.

3.4 % is still 3.4% ,no matter how Smokey or mirrorry it gets ! Do you think this is fair ?
Quite far from what you’ve been told about their broad shoulders carrying your tax burden alone.
3.4 % !
They don’t care if you believe it or not , they’re still laughing at youz all the way to the bank !!!!!
Why do you think it’s ok for 3 people to own the ... (show quote)


Good grief, but you are completely submerged in kool-aid. Do you breath through a snorkel?
You do have a point about useless degrees, but that was/is the fault of the students and their bad choices. Why would anyone choose a career in History, or basketweaving, or physical education, or whatever, and borrow 80 grand to pay for it, then complain that no one will hire them at $120K per year? Universities are constantly building new buildings and providing hot tubs and entertainment centers for the students. Only the Universities are getting rich from those ponzi schemes.
There is not a set amount of wealth in America, nor in the world, that has to be divided up. 'Fairness' doesn't come into it, nor should it. Wealth is CREATED, especially by innovators and investors exactly like Musk. I don't care if he becomes a quintrillionaire. It has no bearing in what I earn at all.
Americans have BY FAR the highest standard of living of the 'poor' in the world. No one starves except by stupid decisions. Every one has access to medical treatment, food, shelter, and most have decent vehicles, TVs, computers, cell phones, etc. People considered wealthy by 1950 standards would be considered trailer park trash today based on their standard of living. All that great standard of living, from air conditioning to cell phones to next day delivery from Amazon is the result of innovation, investment, risk taking, and WEALTH CREATION.
If you personally are not participating in it, and it is not due to low IQ or some other disability, then it is almost certainly due to poor choices on your part.
Quit blaming the rich for your troubles. They did NOT take anything from you.

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Jul 31, 2023 10:08:09   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
I don't recall ever hearing about this "Hartmann Report" before, though I'm sure it has been around.
Where does the report get it's facts......for example, the report claims at the beginning that BILLIONAIRES only pay an average of 3.4% in income tax, and yet the IRS says the top 1% pays an average of 25.4% in income tax, and the top 1% pays over 40% of all paid income tax. Notice that figure is PAID....not owed....and it is after all those mysterious loop holes and high priced lawyers are utilized.
Does anyone know where that 3.4% figure comes from? Is it a misrepresentation, or just a flat out lie? Or what?[/quote]

Loopholes .
Shysterism , lies .
When you say they pay X amount of tax ,
Do you intentionally leave out how much they made ?
By saying they pay more than you , they expect you to be awed .
So , should they only pay the equivalent of what we pay ?
Or should we only be paying the same percentage as they pay !!!
3.4% after all the smoke and mirrors clear !
Why aren’t we paying the same amount as they are.

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Jul 31, 2023 12:29:30   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I don't recall ever hearing about this "Hartmann Report" before, though I'm sure it has been around.
Where does the report get it's facts......for example, the report claims at the beginning that BILLIONAIRES only pay an average of 3.4% in income tax, and yet the IRS says the top 1% pays an average of 25.4% in income tax, and the top 1% pays over 40% of all paid income tax. Notice that figure is PAID....not owed....and it is after all those mysterious loop holes and high priced lawyers are utilized.
Does anyone know where that 3.4% figure comes from? Is it a misrepresentation, or just a flat out lie? Or what?
I don't recall ever hearing about this "Hartm... (show quote)


Loopholes .
Shysterism , lies .
When you say they pay X amount of tax ,
Do you intentionally leave out how much they made ?
By saying they pay more than you , they expect you to be awed .
So , should they only pay the equivalent of what we pay ?
Or should we only be paying the same percentage as they pay !!!
3.4% after all the smoke and mirrors clear !
Why aren’t we paying the same amount as they are.[/quote]

The rich pay an average of 25% AFTER all the smoke and mirrors, accoding to the IRS. Repeating nonsense does not make it less nonsensical.
You should go by the IRS figures, unless you have credible proof that the rich pay less than that. No signs of that so far.
Do YOU pay 25% on your earnings?

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Jul 31, 2023 12:44:51   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
RandyBrian wrote:
The rich pay an average of 25% AFTER all the smoke and mirrors, accoding to the IRS. Repeating nonsense does not make it less nonsensical.
You should go by the IRS figures, unless you have credible proof that the rich pay less than that. No signs of that so far.
Do YOU pay 25% on your earnings?


Welfare recipients do not make earnings or pay taxes. They just suck on the tit and whine about things.

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Jul 31, 2023 13:33:27   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why do you think it’s ok for 3 people to own the
equivalent wealth of 60% of the population.
They didn’t work for it . It’s unearned income .
Homeless numbers are going up again . Why ?
Because they’re all worthless and weak ?
Only have basket weaving degrees. ?
Why .
In the richest country in the world , should all of the wealth be concentrated among the already morbidly rich .
People are now becoming homeless to make sure Elon makes it to become a Trillionaire !
How much is too much money for Elon and Jeff and their morbidly rich pals ???
Too much money for the few,
At the expense of the many.!!!
If the right is incapable of seeing what is truly happening here , then, we are so screwed.

3.4 % is still 3.4% ,no matter how Smokey or mirrorry it gets ! Do you think this is fair ?
Quite far from what you’ve been told about their broad shoulders carrying your tax burden alone.
3.4 % !
They don’t care if you believe it or not , they’re still laughing at youz all the way to the bank !!!!!
Why do you think it’s ok for 3 people to own the ... (show quote)




Get a job.....your endless whine is solved in a 3 letter word and you getting off your lazy ass.

Your welcome.

That concept seems to elude your weak mind.

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