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Jul 3, 2023 09:47:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
When someone is born intersex they don't "feel" like they are in the wrong gender body. They are not transgender. They are intersex. Partly male and partly female. Nor is surgery usually necessary. There IS no fix. Surgery will not make them either male or female, but will just make them APPEAR to be either male or female.

My twin was a complete hermaphrodite. My grandmother, two of my great great grandmothers, and my great great great grandmother were all complete hermaphrodite. I have a very good friend who is intersex with the xy chromosome but physically developed as a female.
When someone is born intersex they don't "fee... (show quote)


I can not argue with your experience but the U of MN was doing some sort of corrective surgery way back in the 50s.. at least per rumor..

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Jul 3, 2023 10:31:37   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
I can not argue with your experience but the U of MN was doing some sort of corrective surgery way back in the 50s.. at least per rumor..


Yes they would call it corrective. In other words they thought being born this way was abnormal so they do surgery to make the child physically appear one sex. My twin and I were born at home because our family feared what they would do to an baby, especially an American Indian baby, born hermaphrodite. I was what the medical professionals would have termed "normal" but was under 4 pounds and was taken to the hospital to be put in an incubator. My twin was kept home. When we were in 1st grade, the school nurse discovered my twin had a punishment. She called the police. Police called social services. She was taken from school to a hospital to be surgically sterilized. Penis, testes, ovaries, and uterus were all removed. Then they contacted my mother. My twin died in the hospital from surgical complications.

I have a cousin who was born with both genitalia, including testes, ovaries and uterus who was never cut on. She gave birth 3 times. One of her children is a hermaphrodite.

Chimerism runs in the family. My cousin is xx-xy. I am xx-xx. We have two complete sets of DNA. Some cells with one and some with the other.

My point is that being born intersex cannot be "fixed" surgically. And that to try to surgically make someone appear to be one gender is something that should be left to the intersexed person once they are an adult.

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Jul 3, 2023 10:44:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Yes they would call it corrective. In other words they thought being born this way was abnormal so they do surgery to make the child physically appear one sex. My twin and I were born at home because our family feared what they would do to an baby, especially an American Indian baby, born hermaphrodite. I was what the medical professionals would have termed "normal" but was under 4 pounds and was taken to the hospital to be put in an incubator. My twin was kept home. When we were in 1st grade, the school nurse discovered my twin had a punishment. She called the police. Police called social services. She was taken from school to a hospital to be surgically sterilized. Penis, testes, ovaries, and uterus were all removed. Then they contacted my mother. My twin died in the hospital from surgical complications.

I have a cousin who was born with both genitalia, including testes, ovaries and uterus who was never cut on. She gave birth 3 times. One of her children is a hermaphrodite.

Chimerism runs in the family. My cousin is xx-xy. I am xx-xx. We have two complete sets of DNA. Some cells with one and some with the other.

My point is that being born intersex cannot be "fixed" surgically. And that to try to surgically make someone appear to be one gender is something that should be left to the intersexed person once they are an adult.
Yes they would call it corrective. In other words ... (show quote)


Amazing family history.. so much I did not know...

Very sorry for your twin.. Sad situation...

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Jul 3, 2023 11:16:18   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
JoyV wrote:
Yes they would call it corrective. In other words they thought being born this way was abnormal so they do surgery to make the child physically appear one sex. My twin and I were born at home because our family feared what they would do to an baby, especially an American Indian baby, born hermaphrodite. I was what the medical professionals would have termed "normal" but was under 4 pounds and was taken to the hospital to be put in an incubator. My twin was kept home. When we were in 1st grade, the school nurse discovered my twin had a punishment. She called the police. Police called social services. She was taken from school to a hospital to be surgically sterilized. Penis, testes, ovaries, and uterus were all removed. Then they contacted my mother. My twin died in the hospital from surgical complications.

I have a cousin who was born with both genitalia, including testes, ovaries and uterus who was never cut on. She gave birth 3 times. One of her children is a hermaphrodite.

Chimerism runs in the family. My cousin is xx-xy. I am xx-xx. We have two complete sets of DNA. Some cells with one and some with the other.

My point is that being born intersex cannot be "fixed" surgically. And that to try to surgically make someone appear to be one gender is something that should be left to the intersexed person once they are an adult.
Yes they would call it corrective. In other words ... (show quote)


Joy, thank you for sharing your story. When I was a kid, I had a friend who was born intersex. She was born at home. I often wonder what her life turned out to be like.

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Jul 3, 2023 12:45:08   #
woodguru
 
pegw wrote:
As far as Trump's agenda. I do like a celebration of the 250th anniversary of America. The rest if Trump's agenda, not so much. Espically his promise to break the law in reguards to the 14th amendment.

Does anyone doubt that trump's vision has the biggest show of military might paraded in front of him? It was his biggest dream he was always thwarted on

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Jul 5, 2023 08:59:49   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
pegw wrote:
I searched for "Children's Hispital sex change operation" and I got nothing, so I will stand by my claim that one can't do it due to it being unethical.


What a fool!

Since when...is medicine, or Politics "ethical"?

When the word "Demoncrat", enters the picture....All Morality, Pride in being, integrity, & Patriotism....{ GONE! }

So sad....Where is the respect for our heritage, Constitution, Family values, Consideration for God & Country?

"Gone....with the wind"!...[ Demoncraps: "frankly my dear...I don't give a damn!"]

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Jul 5, 2023 11:18:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
pegw wrote:
I searched for "Children's Hispital sex change operation" and I got nothing, so I will stand by my claim that one can't do it due to it being unethical.


Bless your heart! How can you be so clueless? You were provided with a link and here is another one. Texas is cracking down on these hospitals that are ruining the lives of CHILDREN……….all for the almighty dollar bill……millions of them! 🤬


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12120177/Americas-biggest-childrens-hospital-stops-sex-reassignment-treatments-line-new-Texas-law.html

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Jul 6, 2023 07:00:57   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
TexaCan wrote:
Bless your heart! How can you be so clueless? You were provided with a link and here is another one. Texas is cracking down on these hospitals that are ruining the lives of CHILDREN……….all for the almighty dollar bill……millions of them! 🤬


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12120177/Americas-biggest-childrens-hospital-stops-sex-reassignment-treatments-line-new-Texas-law.html


pegw...is a hopeless cause! She/it....rads, & concludes by magnanimous erratic thinking.....that the Dem published stuff is 'real"...[ really out of the toilet, & on her plate]

pegw, is a typical, brain dead, cannot think for itself, mentally jaded "lost at sea"....psuedo politico....[ no hope for "it", & the rest of the brain dead libs at this venue!

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Jul 6, 2023 07:51:30   #
pescado rojo
 
pegw wrote:
No one is going to cut off kids genitles. I really don't know what pants in fire liar started this. A friend of mine at a major US hospital was part of a sex change team. The doctors responsible for this procedure do not do it on anyone under 18. That would be unethical and would result in the loss if the doctors licence.


If anyone ever finds a kid with "genitles" maybe they should be cut off.

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Jul 22, 2023 07:11:22   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
pescado rojo wrote:
If anyone ever finds a kid with "genitles" maybe they should be cut off.


... ...{ , , , }....Medically speaking: Castration...without representation?

"spelling 101"....missed by so many demoncraps!

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Jul 22, 2023 07:22:26   #
Rose42
 
pegw wrote:
No one is going to cut off kids genitles. I really don't know what pants in fire liar started this. A friend of mine at a major US hospital was part of a sex change team. The doctors responsible for this procedure do not do it on anyone under 18. That would be unethical and would result in the loss if the doctors licence.


But they are doing it on minors. Doesn’t matter what your ‘friend’ says. Its child abuse. Who knows why some of you want to hide the truth.

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Jul 23, 2023 08:42:31   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Rose42 wrote:
But they are doing it on minors. Doesn’t matter what your ‘friend’ says. Its child abuse. Who knows why some of you want to hide the truth.


"TRUTH"...[ something demoncraps always want to hide]

Demoncrap Integrity: like "Garlic", to a werewolf!

The "dirty diaper of politics" = demoncraps!

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