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Jun 14, 2023 04:38:50   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump set a deal with terrorists to get out by a certain date...and trump was not exactly an expert at moving out of bases in a three day panic and leaving a fully operational base for Russia to use as happened in Syria because Erdogan gave trump three days to get out.

Afghanistan was the mess trump left for Biden to deal with, because the way he did it would have been worse.




Easy there..bait shrimp......
Your vajayjay is showing.

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Jun 14, 2023 12:05:43   #
WEBCO
 
woodguru wrote:
It's not hatred of trump, it's being sick of his disregard for rules and the law.

He was a security nightmare, he appointed other security nightmares as cabinet members and advisors...Kushner handing off intelligence on the real princes friends and political supporters so they could be locked up in a coup and their money seized by his friend MBS...Flynn, removed from service for unhinged behavior and security breaches, where he went on to work as an unregistered foreign consultant to adversary countries. That is relevant because had he registered he would have been prosecuted.

He shared or leaked, whatever you want to call it highly sensitive information that completely compromized our best spies and informant assets, and that was well covered, as was the fact that our intelligence allies had to stop sharing highly classified information because they couldn't trust the trump administration not to out their resources.
It's not hatred of trump, it's being sick of his d... (show quote)


Are you sick of the total disregard of the law by this administration yet?

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Jun 14, 2023 12:21:19   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
woodguru wrote:
If you are paying attention to the documents case, and figure it's a lot more threatening than Bragg's tax evasion case, here comes the January 6th case, and Meadows copping a plea deal and cooperating is a big deal...yuuge as the donald would say. And the biggest thing is that any number of conspiracy to overturn the election charges that can come of this is a game ender for trump, never to serve as an elected official ever again.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jan-6-2661119151/?cx_testId=4&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=0&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s
If you are paying attention to the documents case,... (show quote)


There are so many charges, that even if he evades charges in one case, the other juries will find him guilty. I hope that the prosecution does not make a plea deal that does not require jail time. Like the other Teflon Don, John Gotti, Donald Trump will die in prison.

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Jun 14, 2023 12:26:32   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
BBZ wrote:
There are so many charges, that even if he evades charges in one case, the other juries will find him guilty. I hope that the prosecution does not make a plea deal that does not require jail time. Like the other Teflon Don, John Gotti, Donald Trump will die in prison.


Wow!! And you call yourselves Party of compassion!!!...You people are FRAUDS!.. But hey, what's good for the goose.I hope Biden will go to prison for the rest of his miserable life, because he's just as guilty as Donald Trump, if not worse.

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Jun 14, 2023 13:00:19   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
If you are paying attention to the documents case, and figure it's a lot more threatening than Bragg's tax evasion case, here comes the January 6th case, and Meadows copping a plea deal and cooperating is a big deal...yuuge as the donald would say. And the biggest thing is that any number of conspiracy to overturn the election charges that can come of this is a game ender for trump, never to serve as an elected official ever again.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jan-6-2661119151/?cx_testId=4&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=0&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s
If you are paying attention to the documents case,... (show quote)



I am certain that the fact that Jack Smith's wife is a generous contributor to Biden's campaigns doesn't bother you at all.

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Jun 14, 2023 13:06:44   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
proud republican wrote:
Wow!! And you call yourselves Party of compassion!!!...You people are FRAUDS!.. But hey, what's good for the goose.I hope Biden will go to prison for the rest of his miserable life, because he's just as guilty as Donald Trump, if not worse.


I would have been more compassionate if he returned the items and he was charged. No, we people are not frauds, Donald Trump and his administration were frauds. He turned the highest office in the country into a profit making machine. Biden is not as guilty as Trump, he returned classified information immediately after his staff found them. The right trying to claim that Biden and Hillary are guilty of all of these crimes is nonsense. It is just more of a smokescreen to minimize Trump's misdeeds. You just admitted that Trump committed crimes.

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Jun 14, 2023 13:08:33   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
BBZ wrote:
I would have been more compassionate if he returned the items and he was charged. No, we people are not frauds, Donald Trump and his administration were frauds. He turned the highest office in the country into a profit making machine. Biden is not as guilty as Trump, he returned classified information immediately after his staff found them. The right trying to claim that Biden and Hillary are guilty of all of these crimes is nonsense. It is just more of a smokescreen to minimize Trump's misdeeds. You just admitted that Trump committed crimes.
I would have been more compassionate if he returne... (show quote)


Biden had no right to have them in the first place, that makes him even more guilty!!

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Jun 14, 2023 14:25:37   #
Justice101
 
BBZ wrote:
I would have been more compassionate if he returned the items and he was charged. No, we people are not frauds, Donald Trump and his administration were frauds. He turned the highest office in the country into a profit making machine. Biden is not as guilty as Trump, he returned classified information immediately after his staff found them. The right trying to claim that Biden and Hillary are guilty of all of these crimes is nonsense. It is just more of a smokescreen to minimize Trump's misdeeds. You just admitted that Trump committed crimes.
I would have been more compassionate if he returne... (show quote)


Biden didn't give his illegal documents to the Feds once his lawyers found them when clearing out his office at the Penn Biden Center. They didn't have security clearances to handle the documents and they returned them to NARA instead of notifying the FBI. He got caught with documents at his previous office, his unsecured garage at his home in Wilmington and his home office there. Someone reported this to CBS a month or two after the midterms. More election interference by the Democrats. He was renting out his home to Hunter after he left office, and he could have had access to the documents when he stayed there.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3827051-the-truth-about-bidens-document-debacle-he-didnt-self-report/

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Jun 14, 2023 17:21:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
BBZ wrote:
I would have been more compassionate if he returned the items and he was charged. No, we people are not frauds, Donald Trump and his administration were frauds. He turned the highest office in the country into a profit making machine. Biden is not as guilty as Trump, he returned classified information immediately after his staff found them. The right trying to claim that Biden and Hillary are guilty of all of these crimes is nonsense. It is just more of a smokescreen to minimize Trump's misdeeds. You just admitted that Trump committed crimes.
I would have been more compassionate if he returne... (show quote)


Learn the law idio*. They are his personal property once declassified. Biden had no right to even have a document in his position. As soon as he did he broke the law. You're a fraud.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:14:17   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
JFlorio wrote:
Learn the law idio*. They are his personal property once declassified. Biden had no right to even have a document in his position. As soon as he did he broke the law. You're a fraud.


But, the documents Trump took home were not declassified. He even admitted that on the telephone call. In addition, the 1978 Presidential Records Act established that presidential records belong to the U.S. government, not the president personally, and must be preserved. I am sure you are too smart to realize that Trump could not declassify documents by merely thinking it. Biden is still being investigated, so we shall see.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:17:15   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:

Persecution of a political opponent is the MO of tyrants.
And, to accomplish that, the tyrant and his media mouthpiece (think Joseph Goebbels) will dehumanize their target
(think Saul Alinsky), making it easy to fool the stupid among the populace and convince them to hate him.

You would do well to apply it to trump, he was constantly going after his opponents using "his" DOJ, and his constant mouth is all about denigrating those who don't like him.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:22:29   #
woodguru
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Trump was not president. Brandon could have handled it anyway he wanted. And he handled it just like everybody thought he was going to a disaster

You are wrong there, when the previous president signs agreements with adversaries the next administration is locked to the word of this country. Trump had less regard for what his predecessor committed to than any president in history, he went after cutting and undermining everything Obama ever did, and much of it was commitments that are meant to be carried forward.

Afghanistan had a hard withdrawal date that Biden was locked into, and at that he stretched it because trump had done none of what needed to be done to pave the way.

Quite frankly I see only really dense trump supporters babbling on about the mess Biden made, trump made that mess entering into agreements with terrorists.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:24:59   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The base in northern Syria was not by any stretch a "fully operational base", it was merely a temporary fire base and when Erdogan threatened to invade, our troops were ordered to displace to avoid fighting the Turks.

In February, 2020, president Trump ordered his military commanders to begin an 18 month staged withdrawal from Afghanistan. With powerful air and ground combat forces in place to protect the withdrawal, civilians (including Afghanis), and non-essential personnel would be the first to leave, followed by shipments of war materials, weapons and ordinance, and when that was accomplished, the combat/security forces would leave.

The deadline for mission accomplished would have been in July, 2021. This 18 month window was predicated on the reasonable assumption that, unlike just 9 one term presidents before him, Trump would serve a 2nd term. He would have been Commander-in-Chief throughout the entire withdrawal and the debacle in Afghanistan would never have happened.

But, you see, there is a certain political party, a movement actually, diametrically opposed to our constitution and alien to our American way of life that simply would not allow Donald Trump to serve a second term, so this certain party did whatever was necessary to make sure that didn't happen. Our Constitution and the Rule of Law be damned.

When confronted with the idea of ending the war in A-stan, stealing the "glory" from Trump, and showing the world what a terrific C-in-C he is, Creepy Joe and his dysfunctional depts, primarily the Pentagon and the State Dept., made other plans.

And, boy, they certainly did one hell of a job. Got a lot of people killed, and the killing continues today,
but the killers are now armed with state-of-the-art American weapons.

CNN: Biden deserves blame for the debacle in Afghanistan

US allies tear into Biden administration over Afghanistan ‘failure’

Scoop: Leaked document reveals Biden’s Afghan failures
The base in northern Syria was not by any stretch ... (show quote)

You are wrong on several counts, it based 50,000 Kurdish allies and threw them under the bus, which is what Erdogan wanted. Trump seemed to care far too much about what Erdogan and Putin wanted in Syria, it was a seriously disgraceful move for our president to make.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:44:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Says who? The President can declassify anything. He may have been sloppy. Don’t know, but read the Clinton trial excerpts. You are wrong and you prove you’re a fraud. I don’t give a damn if Trump is found guilty. But if he broke the law then Hillary, Pence, Biden, and probably Obama did also. Jail one. Jail all, or this arrest is exactly what it looks like. A political move the likes of which this country has never seen.


BBZ wrote:
But, the documents Trump took home were not declassified. He even admitted that on the telephone call. In addition, the 1978 Presidential Records Act established that presidential records belong to the U.S. government, not the president personally, and must be preserved. I am sure you are too smart to realize that Trump could not declassify documents by merely thinking it. Biden is still being investigated, so we shall see.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:46:04   #
Justice101
 
woodguru wrote:
You are wrong there, when the previous president signs agreements with adversaries the next administration is locked to the word of this country. Trump had less regard for what his predecessor committed to than any president in history, he went after cutting and undermining everything Obama ever did, and much of it was commitments that are meant to be carried forward.

Afghanistan had a hard withdrawal date that Biden was locked into, and at that he stretched it because trump had done none of what needed to be done to pave the way.

Quite frankly I see only really dense trump supporters babbling on about the mess Biden made, trump made that mess entering into agreements with terrorists.
You are wrong there, when the previous president s... (show quote)


Biden wasn't handcuffed by the Trump agreement regarding the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan and his "agreement with the Taliban" although he used that to deflect the blame away from himself and on to Trump.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be

"Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September."

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