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May 31, 2023 11:51:58   #
zillaorange
 
DASHY wrote:
A word of warning: Don't believe everything you hear on FOX news or from Ron DeSantis.


I don't pay ANY attention to mass media or politics!

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May 31, 2023 12:06:52   #
EmilyD
 
DASHY wrote:
My friends don't share the intimate details of their sex lives with me. Do you get the same sex talk from your straight friends as you do with the homosexuals? Do you always place God above your own physical needs concerning sex? Do you ever pleasure yourself?


If you think you can get out of calling your support of a homosexual (gay) lifestyle a sin because you don't know if your "gay friends" are actually having sex together, then you are more delusional than I thought. That's like saying you don't know for sure that Jeffrey Dahmer was a sinner because you didn't see him kill anyone. It's just a cover-up. You know it's wrong for men to lust for other men and the same for women. And if you don't know that, then you are deceiving yourself! You may be able to convince yourself what they (or you) are doing is not a sin, but you won't be able to convince God unless you reject the sinfulness and are sorry for it and MEAN it. It really isn't that complicated. God made it very easy for us to know right from wrong.

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May 31, 2023 12:28:38   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Very sincere, but won’t be received in that manner.


Probably. But I can only control MY words and deeds. She is responsible for her own.

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May 31, 2023 12:31:03   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
zillaorange wrote:
WRONG! Conservative Republicans don't hate queers per se. If adults choose a deviant lifestyle that's their call. It's when they try to indoctrinate and force this deviance on children it's a different story. Why the underhanded sneaky practice of trying to induce children as young as 5 or 6 that they can choose their sexuality but don't tell mommy or daddy? Trying to convince heterosexual folks that the queer lifestyle is normal is another problem. Queer is just that QUEER!!!


Pretty much every creature has the desire to reproduce itself. Indoctrination is the only way to do so for the people who take pride in their deviancy.

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May 31, 2023 12:32:32   #
zillaorange
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Pretty much every creature has the desire to reproduce itself. Indoctrination is the only way to do so for the people who take pride in their deviancy.



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May 31, 2023 12:38:28   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
I honestly don't know how any Christian can condemn trans identities. You bring your own personal prejudices into your argument when you call trans people sinners. Men and women competing in sports competitions have always been treated differently. Tee boxes in golf and different hurdle heights in track. I learned something about trans women competing in sports after reading this article.https://www.forbes.com/sites/donnalopiano/2022/08/04/a-fair-and-inclusive-solution-for-transgender-women-in-sports/?sh=a6d23f412efd
Under something called "Women's Sports Umbrella" achievement scores are recorded in a separate Trans category. It appears to offer a starting point to being both inclusive and fair. The debate still has a long way to go. I am still on the fence myself on this one.
I honestly don't know how any Christian can condem... (show quote)


Did I call trans people sinners? I don't recall doing so. Nor did I say being gay is a sin. Engaging in gay sexual activity is clearly a sin, as is pedophilia. BEING something is not sin. SINNING requires actions or the consideration of sinful actions.
Men and women are biologically different....not better or worse.....just different. There is nothing fair or just or equitable about allowing men to compete as women for honor, prizes, awards, or scholarships that were designed specifically for women.

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May 31, 2023 12:45:44   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
My friends don't share the intimate details of their sex lives with me. Do you get the same sex talk from your straight friends as you do with the homosexuals? Do you always place God above your own physical needs concerning sex? Do you ever pleasure yourself?


I discuss sex specifics with my wife and no one else. That 'no one else' includes you.
And yes, God is preeminent in ALL my personal decisions and actions. I make my fair share of mistakes (and then some) in my life, but there is no rebellion against God in my thoughts or deeds. Only failures to be my best. Based on your posts, it is hard to conceive of you putting in much effort to serve the God you say you believe in.

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May 31, 2023 13:00:58   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
If you think you can get out of calling your support of a homosexual (gay) lifestyle a sin because you don't know if your "gay friends" are actually having sex together, then you are more delusional than I thought. That's like saying you don't know for sure that Jeffrey Dahmer was a sinner because you didn't see him kill anyone. It's just a cover-up. You know it's wrong for men to lust for other men and the same for women. And if you don't know that, then you are deceiving yourself! You may be able to convince yourself what they (or you) are doing is not a sin, but you won't be able to convince God unless you reject the sinfulness and are sorry for it and MEAN it. It really isn't that complicated. God made it very easy for us to know right from wrong.
If you think you can get out of calling your suppo... (show quote)


DASHY, Emily is correct.
You seem to be guilty of exactly what most liberals do.....you create your own fantasy version of what a conservative is, what a liberal is, and even who God is. Then you try to force everyone else into those 'boxes', and INSIST that they have all the attributes that you have assigned them.
And now you are doing the same thing with God. "God is love". "God would NEVER condemn." "God forgives anything". "God knows me, and therefore will not reject me." and all the other fantasy rainbows and flowers and light that the liberal Christians give to their fantasy God. One day you will realize that the label does not define the referent. God is GOD. He is indeed the source and definition of love. But He also is the God that flooded the world. The God that is jealous of His ownership of creation. The God who sacrificed Himself on the cross to cover my sins and yours.....and you repay that sacrifice by deciding which of His laws you 'agree' with, and which ones you will abide by????? Such pride and arrogance. YOU do not get to decide what constitutes sin, and neither do I. And our loving Father will NOT tolerate known sin in his presence. He has assured us of that.
Save your soul by learning who God actually IS......and not who you want Him to be. Then obey Him.

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May 31, 2023 14:25:17   #
DASHY
 
EmilyD wrote:
If you think you can get out of calling your support of a homosexual (gay) lifestyle a sin because you don't know if your "gay friends" are actually having sex together, then you are more delusional than I thought. That's like saying you don't know for sure that Jeffrey Dahmer was a sinner because you didn't see him kill anyone. It's just a cover-up. You know it's wrong for men to lust for other men and the same for women. And if you don't know that, then you are deceiving yourself! You may be able to convince yourself what they (or you) are doing is not a sin, but you won't be able to convince God unless you reject the sinfulness and are sorry for it and MEAN it. It really isn't that complicated. God made it very easy for us to know right from wrong.
If you think you can get out of calling your suppo... (show quote)


I think you missed God's true message to love your neighbor and judge not, lest you be judged.

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May 31, 2023 14:29:53   #
DASHY
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Pretty much every creature has the desire to reproduce itself. Indoctrination is the only way to do so for the people who take pride in their deviancy.


Men should revisit their desire to reproduce before they start spreading their sperm around reclessly.

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May 31, 2023 14:29:58   #
zillaorange
 
DASHY wrote:
I think you missed God's true message to love your neighbor and judge not, lest you be judged.


The Creator made it quite clear the purpose of procreation intercourse between a man and a woman was the continuation of the species! Any deviation is a sin as described in Revelations. That's why the hammer's being dropped. Outrageous behavior such as gender modification of children before they even know about sexual relations or the glorification of drag is contrary to the laws of the Creator!

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May 31, 2023 14:31:44   #
Rose42
 
DASHY wrote:
I think you missed God's true message to love your neighbor and judge not, lest you be judged.


That is the favorite verse to quote for non believers.

We are indeed to judge whether something is sin but we are not to condemn anyone. Big difference.

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May 31, 2023 14:32:00   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
I think you missed God's true message to love your neighbor and judge not, lest you be judged.


And you missed the intent of the 'judge not' scripture - as many people do.

He wasn’t issuing a blanket rule that people are never to judge others. A closer look at the rest of the passage illuminates the real issue Christ wanted to address:

Christ’s teaching was primarily directed to believers, but the principle can be applied to anyone. Jesus does expect us to “deal with the speck” in our friend’s eye, particularly our brothers and sisters in Christ. He wants us to discern sin in others so we can help them get rid of it. The purpose of judging someone else’s weakness is to help him or her walk in freedom (1 Corinthians 5:12).

https://www.gotquestions.org/judge-not-lest-you-be-judged.html

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May 31, 2023 14:36:57   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
DASHY wrote:
I think you missed God's true message to love your neighbor and judge not, lest you be judged.

That is one of the most, if not the most, misquoted verses in the Bible slick. It doesn't mean "don't judge me man."

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May 31, 2023 14:38:48   #
DASHY
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Did I call trans people sinners? I don't recall doing so. Nor did I say being gay is a sin. Engaging in gay sexual activity is clearly a sin, as is pedophilia. BEING something is not sin. SINNING requires actions or the consideration of sinful actions.
Men and women are biologically different....not better or worse.....just different. There is nothing fair or just or equitable about allowing men to compete as women for honor, prizes, awards, or scholarships that were designed specifically for women.
Did I call trans people sinners? I don't recall d... (show quote)


I'm quite sure gay and trans people engage in sex to the same extent that physical sex is enjoyed by straight people. Are you committing a sin when you and your sex partner go at it??

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