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May 30, 2023 00:34:34   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thom Hartmann is an American radio personality, author, former psychotherapist, businessman, and progressive political commentator, investigative journalism isn't even on his radar.

The Society of Professional Journalism established a code of ethics that very few in the media today attain to.
Objectivity, Accountability, Transparency, Honesty, Independence, Fact based reporting, and MINIMIZE HARM.

Obviously, Hartmann has shunned such professionalism and adopted the partisan hack routines.
Thom Hartmann is an American radio personality, au... (show quote)


He hosts a 3 hour show every day .
And welcomes discussion from the right .
He has stated if you’re right wing and call in
He will place you next into the line.
You should call , he’ll answer your questions I’m sure.

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May 30, 2023 06:50:58   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
He hosts a 3 hour show every day .
And welcomes discussion from the right .
He has stated if you’re right wing and call in
He will place you next into the line.
You should call , he’ll answer your questions I’m sure.


I used to listen to him but he’s changed and become another tool. He’s just another talking head now which is a shame. He peddles a lot of propaganda

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May 30, 2023 09:20:40   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Some democrats are one and some are the other, but mostly all are becoming extreme socialist with elements of both as their final goal. Which one are you?


I am a progressive socialist. Who thinks the gov't should help all it's citizens with health care,(Including mental health and family planning) child care (parental leave) and post secondary education. Like many Scandanavian Countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and Others in Europe The Netherlands,(All Constitutional Monarchies)with Germany, Czech Republic and many others. These countries with socialist policies are no where near becoming Communist then we are.

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May 30, 2023 10:35:15   #
Justice101
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I am a progressive socialist. Who thinks the gov't should help all it's citizens with health care,(Including mental health and family planning) child care (parental leave) and post secondary education. Like many Scandanavian Countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and Others in Europe The Netherlands,(All Constitutional Monarchies)with Germany, Czech Republic and many others. These countries with socialist policies are no where near becoming Communist then we are.


https://fee.org/articles/is-sweden-socialist-no-but/
The Swedish Economy
The glory days for Sweden economically took place prior to the 1960s, when they had a free economy, low regulation and lots of wealth. Between 1870 and 1950, Sweden had the highest per capita income growth in the world and became one of the richest countries, behind only Switzerland, the U.S., and Denmark.

In the 1960s, Sweden started to redistribute wealth, which brought wealth creation to a halt. By the mid-1990s, the country had growing economic problems because it continued to redistribute wealth it wasn’t creating. It was at this juncture that many of the wealthy (ABBA band members included) and entrepreneurs were leaving Sweden. In 1994, Sweden began implementing the following measures designed to reverse this trend:

Reduce Regulation
Reduce Government Spending
Reform their Welfare Programs
Shrink their Government
Sweden has continued on this path for the last 24 years, which has brought them a modest rate of growth, but not nearly as robust as pre-60s levels due to government taxation remaining high.

Many view Sweden as socialist. However, the country is, in fact, very pro-capitalism, but does it with redistribution through taxes. Personal income is taxed at a rate of 61.85 percent, plus a 7 percent social security tax rate for employees. On top of these taxes, Sweden also has a 25 percent consumption tax. For these sacrifices of financial freedom, this is what Sweden offers their citizens in benefits:

Pension
Health care
Unemployment Insurance
Education through Ph.D. Level
Child Day Care
Very generous leaves of absence from work with benefits including: education up to 6 months, starting your own company up to 6 months off, parental leave up to 16 months with 80 percent of your pay during time off
16 public holidays (10 of these holidays are Christian-based, even though just five percent of the population are regular church attendees).
Health Care in the Kingdom of Sweden
Naturally, nearly everyone takes full advantage of these benefits. Johan Norberg, an author and historian, states that while Sweden is one of the healthiest countries, it also has one of the highest rates of sick leave in Europe, no doubt in large part because Swedes receive 80 percent of their salary while they stay home.

Long waiting lines are the norm.

Where do the health care technologies and medicines come from? Nearly all of it is invented and implemented in America in a competitive health care market.

Norberg offers caution, however, to those who would implement a “free” health care system similar to Sweden’s single-payer program.

In Sweden, the government tries to price healthcare at near zero, so demand is unlimited. However, resources are limited, resulting in rationed healthcare. Long waiting lines are the norm. Stories abound of people with an illness such as brain cancer being told they will need to wait for treatment until they have equipment and doctors ready for them.

Like Canadians, many will go to other countries to get timely treatment. Economist Andreas Bergh explains that Swedes are healthy not because of the health care system but because they eat healthy foods and are physically active.

Taxes and Immigration
One aspect of taxes in Sweden that is not well known is that while taxes are high on labor, they are relatively low for corporations (22 percent) and capital. Keeping taxes low keeps corporations and capital from going to other countries. The 1994 changes in government deregulated everything from taxis, air service, railroads, electricity, telecom, and school choice.

While taxes are high on labor, they are relatively low for corporations.


The open-competition school choice model in Sweden would trigger U.S. teacher unions into a froth. Parents and pupils decide what school they want to attend, and they are all paid for by taxes. Corporations, towns, charities, religions, most anyone and anything can start a school, but it’s up to parents and pupils if they want to attend. The more people who choose a particular school determines if that school will get more government funding.




Bernie Sanders is wrong on democratic socialism in Sweden, and everywhere else
Scandinavia's success story wasn't achieved thanks to a welfare model funded by high taxes, but in spite of it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-wrong-democratic-socialism-sweden-everywhere-else-ncna1158636

https://scandinaviafacts.com/is-sweden-socialist/

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May 30, 2023 12:11:28   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It should be free considering the amount we Give the fuel industries in Subsidies !!!!!


And exactly how much do we give them in subsidies? The last I heard the companies PAY THE GOVERNMENT for the lease rights on federal lands, or pays the owners for mineral rights. On top of that they pay for the drilling, shipping, refining and delivery of their products. So exactly why do you say they are subsidized, what is the government paying for? I would also ask if you dislike the subsidies to the electric vehicle industry (a check directly from the government for each vehicle sold)?

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May 30, 2023 12:28:45   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Well , you’re not the only one who doesn’t want to hear it .
Youz really are a sad bunch .
Do you believe the democrats are fools for trying to defend the Constitution ?
Do you believe Democracy is an Affront to your Naziist ideology.
Or is it you who is way off course ?


"Do you believe the democrats are fools for trying to defend the Constitution ?"


Overriding or repealing the 2nd amendment to protect us from "gun violence".
Modifying the 1st amendment to protect us from "hate speech".
Getting rid of the electoral college in order to "promote democracy".
Wanting to add US Supreme Court justices in order to keep the court "ideologically balanced".
Seeking to eliminate the senate because it is "unfairly representative".
Encouraging ever greater use of excitative orders in the name of "increased efficiency".

The democrats are fools to think they are actually trying to "defend" the constitution!

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May 30, 2023 12:35:00   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The republicans refused to prosecute him .
Impeached twice , and set free by the republicans.
The republicans wouldn’t allow testimony’s, evidence , witnesses , videos ,
Into the senate trial !
A Republican court that refused to allow evidence into the courtroom.
Of the 12 crimes committed only 2 went to impeachment trial . All republicans let him go .
Now they can’t live with the monster they’ve created !!!


Sorry dear, it was the democrats who were in control of all the investigations, committees, the justice department and the courts having jurisdiction. The republicans had very little to do with it other than refusing to convict due to lack of evidence..

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May 30, 2023 12:46:20   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
I used to listen to him but he’s changed and become another tool. He’s just another talking head now which is a shame. He peddles a lot of propaganda


I haven’t seen any of it dispelled.
True history is not propaganda .

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May 30, 2023 12:50:30   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
SeaLass wrote:
Sorry dear, it was the democrats who were in control of all the investigations, committees, the justice department and the courts having jurisdiction. The republicans had very little to do with it other than refusing to convict due to lack of evidence..


Impeachment is a 2 part series .
First part is the House .
Verifying evidence , filing charges .
Second part the Senate issues the
Penalties . The republicans refused to allow any evidence into the courtroom.
The republicans refused to allow Any evidence into the courtroom. Abd then claimed there was no evidence .
Trumps republicans refused to prosecute him.
So this wasn’t a very small part ,
It was equal to the first part .
In trumps case they set him free .
That sweetie is a very big thing .
Why do youz always only get half of the story ?
The republicans caused the evidence shortage, and then complained there wasn’t enough evidence.

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May 30, 2023 12:55:34   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Well , you’re not the only one who doesn’t want to hear it .
Youz really are a sad bunch .
Do you believe the democrats are fools for trying to defend the Constitution ?
Do you believe Democracy is an Affront to your Naziist ideology.
Or is it you who is way off course ?


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May 30, 2023 13:06:36   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
SeaLass wrote:
And exactly how much do we give them in subsidies? The last I heard the companies PAY THE GOVERNMENT for the lease rights on federal lands, or pays the owners for mineral rights. On top of that they pay for the drilling, shipping, refining and delivery of their products. So exactly why do you say they are subsidized, what is the government paying for? I would also ask if you dislike the subsidies to the electric vehicle industry (a check directly from the government for each vehicle sold)?


The last was over three $Trillion .
This is why Biden asked McCarthy for
a 5%rebate of subsidies.
That which McCarthy denied .
-5%-
What is 5% of $3Trillion .
ECars subsidies speed up
the buying process . Instead of waiting for the prices to come down as companies try to recompense their initial outlays .
Buying us sped up .
Along with lowering the first market price .
Government is on your side to help you buy one of these vehicles .
I don’t see a thing wrong with this.
The government is not Your Enemy .
As Reagan has been selling to you forever.
The government does have enemies .
The corporate and the morbidly rich .
The government will help you do anything you want to do .
Will any of your famous Oligarchians help you do a n y t h i n g ???
Besides dying for lack of healthcare.
Plus manufacturing ECars is much less complex than petro machines .
Wheels , motor , battery . That’s it .
No heat treated parts , tons of steel for engines , mufflers , drivetrains .
I believe today they are all belt driven .

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May 30, 2023 13:13:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
😁


How are you coming with your gender reassignment surgery?

Is it different going from mam to man ?

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May 30, 2023 13:26:28   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I haven’t seen any of it dispelled.
True history is not propaganda .


You haven’t because you don’t see the whole picture

Don’t confuse his opinions with truth. Some are, some aren’t.

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May 30, 2023 13:32:42   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
😁


Yeah right , an electrician or something.

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May 30, 2023 14:34:38   #
BIRDMAN
 
Rose42 wrote:
You haven’t because you don’t see the whole picture

Don’t confuse his opinions with truth. Some are, some aren’t.


I identify as an African-American lesbian

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