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Apr 2, 2023 19:40:06   #
albertk
 
EmilyD wrote:
Not an answer.



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Apr 2, 2023 19:51:44   #
son of witless
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I do. I see more facts, what people in power say but that can not be trusted. Much of the far right is derogatory adjectives and hate mongering.

I read a lot of far right to keep abreast of their direction. I have not found a lot, really any far left except in far right fear mongering. I am not on any boards on either side.

My experience with far left is what the far right on OPP claim to be their agenda.


Then we are opposites. I grew up Democrat. I cheered when Nixon had to resign. Democrats quickly revealed themselves to me in the post watergate era. As the hippie generation, those 5 to 10 years older than me and who I had idolized when in high school, took cultural and political power, I developed a severe revulsion to everything about them except their music.

My experiences in the real world, the work place, etc have solidified my opinion of them as maggot infested long hair commies. They no longer have the long hair. Other than that they are the same lying anti American losers they were in the 60s.

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Apr 2, 2023 20:05:08   #
Justice101
 
billlingle wrote:
I already have. It is you who has shown himself to be without a thread of information, without the ability to form a sentence that refutes anything that I have said and incapable of coming up with a logical, reasonable explanation. The ball is in your court and has been since my first comment. I'm not surprised that you continuously duck any questions. Work scrambling when you have no answers is not pleasant and never works. Ask Fat Donny. He know all about it.


You are the one who is full of it. I have shown you to be a liar as to the original charges regarding of Perjury lawyer Michael Cohen and DA Bragg's star witness in his political sham Trump case. Michael Cohen didn't go to prison for 3 years ONLY because of the campaign finance charges. You are not clever enough to read into the deviousness that Michael Cohen was capable of because he thought that he was smarter than everyone else.

Here we go again:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax

Charges: COHEN, 51, of NEW YORK, NEW YORK, pleaded guilty to five counts of willful tax evasion; one count of making false statements to a bank; one count of causing an unlawful campaign contribution; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution.



Campaign Finance Violations
Between late August 2016 and September 2016, COHEN agreed with Chairman-1 to assign the rights to the non-disclosure portion of Corporation-1’s agreement with Woman-1 to COHEN for $125,000. COHEN incorporated a shell entity called “Resolution Consultants LLC” for use in the transaction. Both Chairman-1 and COHEN ultimately signed the agreement, and a consultant for Corporation-1, using his own shell entity, provided COHEN with an invoice for the payment of $125,000. However, in early October 2016, after the assignment agreement was signed but before COHEN had paid the $125,000, Chairman-1 contacted COHEN and told him, in substance, that the deal was off and that COHEN should tear up the assignment agreement.

Second, on October 8, 2016, an agent for an adult film actress (“Woman-2”) informed Editor-1 that Woman-2 was willing to make public statements and confirm on the record her alleged past affair with Individual-1. Chairman-1 and Editor-1 then contacted COHEN and put him in touch with Attorney-1, who was also representing Woman-2. Over the course of the next few days, COHEN negotiated a $130,000 agreement with Attorney-1 to himself purchase Woman-2’s silence, and received a signed confidential settlement agreement and a separate side letter agreement from Attorney-1.

COHEN did not immediately execute the agreement, nor did he pay Woman-2. On the evening of October 25, 2016, with no deal with Woman-2 finalized, Attorney-1 told Editor-1 that Woman-2 was close to completing a deal with another outlet to make her story public. Editor-1, in turn, texted COHEN that “[w]e have to coordinate something on the matter [Attorney-1 is] calling you about or it could look awfully bad for everyone.” Chairman-1 and Editor-1 then called COHEN through an encrypted telephone application. COHEN agreed to make the payment, and then called Attorney-1 to finalize the deal.

The next day, on October 26, 2016, COHEN emailed an incorporating service to obtain the corporate formation documents for another shell corporation, Essential Consultants LLC, which COHEN had incorporated a few days prior. Later that afternoon, COHEN drew down $131,000 from the fraudulently obtained HELOC and requested that it be deposited into a bank account COHEN had just opened in the name of Essential Consultants. The next morning, on October 27, 2016, COHEN went to Bank-3 and wired approximately $130,000 from Essential Consultants to Attorney-1. On the bank form to complete the wire, COHEN falsely indicated that the “purpose of wire being sent” was “retainer.” On November 1, 2016, COHEN received from Attorney-1 copies of the final, signed confidential settlement agreement and side letter agreement.

COHEN caused and made the payments described herein in order to influence the 2016 presidential election. In so doing, he coordinated with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. As a result of the payments solicited and made by COHEN, neither Woman-1 nor Woman-2 spoke to the press prior to the election.

In January 2017, COHEN in seeking reimbursement for election-related expenses, presented executives of the Company with a copy of a bank statement from the Essential Consultants bank account, which reflected the $130,000 payment COHEN had made to the bank account of Attorney-1 in order to keep Woman-2 silent in advance of the election, plus a $35 wire fee, adding, in handwriting, an additional “$50,000.” The $50,000 represented a claimed payment for “tech services,” which in fact related to work COHEN had solicited from a technology company during and in connection with the campaign. COHEN added these amounts to a sum of $180,035. After receiving this document, executives of the Company “grossed up” for tax purposes COHEN’s requested reimbursement of $180,000 to $360,000, and then added a bonus of $60,000 so that COHEN would be paid $420,000 in total. Executives of the Company also determined that the $420,000 would be paid to COHEN in monthly amounts of $35,000 over the course of 12 months, and that COHEN should send invoices for these payments.

**It is no wonder that Cohen got the charges made for excessive campaign contributions, and get a load of his Shell Corporations that were set up to try and hide the evidence? They could have been set up to shield the profits that he made from his taxicab business that he tried to avoid paying income tax on and GOT CAUGHT.**

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Apr 2, 2023 20:18:24   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
son of witless wrote:
Then we are opposites. I grew up Democrat. I cheered when Nixon had to resign. Democrats quickly revealed themselves to me in the post watergate era. As the hippie generation, those 5 to 10 years older than me and who I had idolized when in high school, took cultural and political power, I developed a severe revulsion to everything about them except their music.

My experiences in the real world, the work place, etc have solidified my opinion of them as maggot infested long hair commies. They no longer have the long hair. Other than that they are the same lying anti American losers they were in the 60s.
Then we are opposites. I grew up Democrat. I cheer... (show quote)

I did not take an interest in politics until Trump declared and started to make waves. I have no skin in the game so it is more of an intellectual exercise for me. Gather as much info as possible and try to determine outcomes. What happens in the USA does have a huge effect on Canada but I am not in a position nor am I wired to have any effect.

If it was possible to be a progressive conservative I might qualify. Centre of the road. Not attached to anything. I have always voted the candidate, not the party. We have multiple parties here.

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Apr 2, 2023 20:35:41   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Just curious, Has it ever occurred to some, that this is a NO WIN Scenario.. The Left has their echo chamber, and won't listen to anything the Right has to say..and Yes the same goes for the Right! There are echo chambers on both sides of the isle..

However, Behind the scenes ALL of the Aforementioned Groups for both parties have their cute little circle jerks every morning, to compare notes and talking points, and they are ALL.. sayin the same shite..almost verbatim, just differently twisted.."spun".. From one talking point to another throughout the day, No matter which talking head is saying it!

But THIS.. This isn't a right or left issue, this puts everyone in danger.. if they step outta line, they will get harassed! This has Never happened in our history, I would imagine, that prior POTUS'S will be havin that Butt Puckering feeling, when it comes to Who's next for BS Crap.. This thing on Trump.. Guess what.. Firstly, Both of the charges that came down initially.. were BOTH beyond the Statute of Limitations.. & NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreements) are NOT Illegal~regardless of the Left's Feigned moral outrage!~Secondly, The DOJ, The FEC, and AG Vance, and Bragg, said they weren't going to prosecute this.. Flash forward, even Further beyond the statute of limitations, Now that it's yet another election year, Bragg, either decided or was pressured to take it up again...

As far as the GOP committee wanting Bragg to testify, that has Nothing to do with the "State of NY" what Bragg delved into was the Federal felony, which puts him in direct path to be a an over sight candidate.. Using federal money for this BS.. That's OH BY THE WAY OUR MONEY!! & Yes I see this as a Federal election interference, and yes, I would feel the same if the positions were reversed.. Provided there was an instance with no evidence or evidence based on a Lying Scum Bag, that's already done time for PERJURY!!!.. So was he lying then or is he lying Now, Ol' Cohen?? After Cohen's Legal advisor Costello.. Bragg should be disbarred for suborning perjury, since his Main witness was convicted for exactly that..and Costello brought "receipts"

Two of the Most renowned Attorneys BOTH Democrat, have said this is Political, and absurd.. That would be Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley!

But one of the things, that would be amusing, if this wasn't so scary for America.. is that this is ALL a distraction!! For the Biden BS, ALL of it, from money to policy & Hunter Biden, The Border, and all the other FAILED policies that Biden has managed to bring America to her knees with.. Not to mention getting us into a proxy war with Russia/Ukraine, another Unaccountable entity using our money and NO one knows where it's actually going.. After Afghanistan, our more serious enemies breathin down our necks, and Biden in the mean time making this country the laughing stock it is today.. Since this is my Opinion based on what I've watched and heard from Both sides of the Isle.. I believe that Biden would love Nothing More than to have Russia/Ukraine blow each other off the map, bc they have dirt on Biden!!.. There's More, but I think y'all get my drift!

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Apr 2, 2023 20:46:30   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I do. I see more facts, what people in power say but that can not be trusted. Much of the far right is derogatory adjectives and hate mongering.

I read a lot of far right to keep abreast of their direction. I have not found a lot, really any far left except in far right fear mongering. I am not on any boards on either side.

My experience with far left is what the far right on OPP claim to be their agenda.


You mean like a fake dossier allowing the left to go after an American and his family for more then two years? you mean playing part of a video to support your own narrative? you mean like suppressing the laptop or the 51 agents lying and saying it was Russia disinformation? you mean going after Trump for having classified documents in his possession when you've had stolen classified docs going back to being a Senator and with your criminal drug addict son having access? You mean like passing judgement and creating a crime without evidence? You mean like lying about your exit from Afghanistan, not knowing your son's business partners, your grades in college, your stance on segregation? I could go on but your mind is closed. You know how I know that? Because all of these things are a matter of public record and you still stick your hateful head in the sand. Hate, hate, hate.

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Apr 2, 2023 20:48:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Larai wrote:
Just curious, Has it ever occurred to some, that this is a NO WIN Scenario.. The Left has their echo chamber, and won't listen to anything the Right has to say..and Yes the same goes for the Right! There are echo chambers on both sides of the isle..

However, Behind the scenes ALL of the Aforementioned Groups for both parties have their cute little circle jerks every morning, to compare notes and talking points, and they are ALL.. sayin the same shite.. just differently twisted.."spun".. From one talking point to another throughout the day, No matter which talking head is saying it!

But THIS.. This isn't a right or left issue, this puts everyone in danger.. if they step outta line, they will get harassed! This has Never happened in our history, I would imagine, that prior POTUS'S will be havin that Butt Puckering feeling, when it comes to Who's next for BS Crap.. This thing on Trump.. Guess what.. Firstly, Both of the charges that came down initially.. were BOTH beyond the Statute of Limitations.. & NDA's are NOT Illegal~regardless of the Left's Feigned moral outrage!~Secondly, The DOJ, The FEC, and AG Vance, and Bragg, said they weren't going to prosecute this.. flash forward, even further beyond the statute of limitations, Now that it's yet another election year, Bragg, either decided or was pressured to take it up again...

As far as the GOP committee wanting Bragg to testify, that has Nothing to do with the "State of NY" what Bragg delved into was the Federal felony, which puts him in direct path to be a an over sight candidate.. Using federal money for this BS.. That's OH BY THE WAY OUR MONEY!! & Yes I see this as a Federal election interference, and yes, I would feel the same if the positions were reversed..

Two of the Most renowned Attorneys BOTH democrat, have said this is Political, and absurd.. That would be Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley!

But one of the things, that would be amusing if this wasn't so scary for America.. is that this is ALL a distraction!! For the Biden BS, ALL of it, from money to policy & Hunter Biden
Just curious, Has it ever occurred to some, that t... (show quote)


Thaat might be the point, distract everyone from the daily reveal of the Biden crimes and corruption. It distracts us fromm the fact that the legal system, the DOJ, is ignoring all the crap coming out about Biden and his Treason.

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Apr 2, 2023 20:50:50   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
I was talking about your "Christian" wife's judgement particularly passing judgement on a group based on one mans statement. No wonder Christians get a bad name!

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Apr 2, 2023 21:07:57   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
microphor wrote:
You mean like a fake dossier allowing the left to go after an American and his family for more then two years? you mean playing part of a video to support your own narrative? you mean like suppressing the laptop or the 51 agents lying and saying it was Russia disinformation? you mean going after Trump for having classified documents in his possession when you've had stolen classified docs going back to being a Senator and with your criminal drug addict son having access? You mean like passing judgement and creating a crime without evidence? You mean like lying about your exit from Afghanistan, not knowing your son's business partners, your grades in college, your stance on segregation? I could go on but your mind is closed. You know how I know that? Because all of these things are a matter of public record and you still stick your hateful head in the sand. Hate, hate, hate.
You mean like a fake dossier allowing the left to ... (show quote)



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Apr 2, 2023 21:12:48   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Thaat might be the point, distract everyone from the daily reveal of the Biden crimes and corruption. It distracts us fromm the fact that the legal system, the DOJ, is ignoring all the crap coming out about Biden and his Treason.


100% Agree nwtk, There is just sooo much crap associated with Biden.. Much like Saddam, Who actually saber rattled for C-Span for over 30 years about "WMD's" the fact that Saddam was a WMD in his own right, killing about 140K of his own people with Sarin Gas, I've watched Biden do much the same throughout his 50 years in gov't..his lies about his "prowess" His Lies about his Nationalities and they are many according to Biden.. too many lies to mention, so much so that the WAPO gave him bottomless pinochios Hmmm..

Sadly, I've become slightly cynical & Jaded that anyone will be held accountable for their actions.. the two sham impeachments, the "J6" unconstitutional display, all hollywood produced.. now this crap.. Ugh..

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Apr 2, 2023 21:48:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Larai wrote:
100% Agree nwtk, There is just sooo much crap associated with Biden.. Much like Saddam, Who actually saber rattled for C-Span for over 30 years about "WMD's" the fact that Saddam was a WMD in his own right, killing about 140K of his own people with Sarin Gas, I've watched Biden do much the same throughout his 50 years in gov't..his lies about his "prowess" His Lies about his Nationalities and they are many according to Biden.. too many lies to mention, so much so that the WAPO gave him bottomless pinochios Hmmm..

Sadly, I've become slightly cynical & Jaded that anyone will be held accountable for their actions.. the two sham impeachments, the "J6" unconstitutional display, all hollywood produced.. now this crap.. Ugh..
100% Agree nwtk, There is just sooo much crap asso... (show quote)


I feel the very same, jaded and now complacent.

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Apr 2, 2023 22:15:23   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I feel the very same, jaded and now complacent.


But that is what they want.. for all of us to be complacent or apathetic.. don't give them that.. I refuse.. I vote, if only to have the right to complain.. don't vote, don't complain..

Much like I've been advising folks to NOT protest over this indictment, they are looking for another J6 like "riot".. don't give them that either, or you'll end up in a gulag somewhere..
Things in this country seem to be coming to a breaking point.. But I never condone violence other than in self defense!.. You know as well as I do I bet, that they already have their minions w/in a potential crowd protest.. be they Antifa, or the FBI..

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Apr 2, 2023 23:33:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Larai wrote:
But that is what they want.. for all of us to be complacent or apathetic.. don't give them that.. I refuse.. I vote, if only to have the right to complain.. don't vote, don't complain..

Much like I've been advising folks to NOT protest over this indictment, they are looking for another J6 like "riot".. don't give them that either, or you'll end up in a gulag somewhere..
Things in this country seem to be coming to a breaking point.. But I never condone violence other than in self defense!.. You know as well as I do I bet, that they already have their minions w/in a potential crowd protest.. be they Antifa, or the FBI..
But that is what they want.. for all of us to be c... (show quote)


You're exactly right. They want another Jan 6th.

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Apr 2, 2023 23:49:12   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You're exactly right. They want another Jan 6th.


When in a fit of extreme emotion, Trump said at the end of a post in Truth Social, to Protest, you know as well as I do, that he said Peacefully.. as he did at the end of his speech just before the FBI induced riot.. but the talking heads were practically salivating over a potential repeat of J6.. Not sure if you've seen the footage that Tucker Carlson posted about j6.. the "shaman" just got released to a half way house!..he's no longer in the gulag.. Score 1 for the 41,000 hours of video withheld by Nasty Nancy! I kinda hope it all eventually gets released to the public, not just one pundit.. we have a right to know!!

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Apr 2, 2023 23:51:40   #
BIRDMAN
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You're exactly right. They want another Jan 6th.



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