A Few FACTS About The Trump Indictment That Brainless Leftists Ignore (Page 3): You are right, despite all the armchair legal expertise by a Trump supporter, Trump was indicted and...

BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY

Milosia2 wrote:

Yeah , we know , it’s both shocking and appalling.... (show quote)

You are right, despite all the armchair legal expertise by a Trump supporter, Trump was indicted and will be arraigned. There will be a trial. Woulda, coulda, shoulda - it does not matter.

billlingle

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

These are some LEGAL FACTS about Trump's nothing burger indictment. Left Wingers who are peeing their panties with anticipation should change their Depends and read them.

From DeRoy Murdock......

First, hush money is no crime, unless someone gets paid to stay silent among police, prosecutors, defense attorneys, or judges. That is obstruction of justice.

Trump would be a criminal had he instructed his then-attorney Michael Cohen to wire $130,000 to Stephanie Clifford (nom de porn Stormy Daniels) to clam up if law enforcement asked about the adulterous affair that she alleges, and Trump denies.

Alas for Bragg, Trump reputedly paid Daniels not to talk with journalists. This is perfectly legal. Anyone who has signed a nondisclosure agreement (as Daniels did) understands this.

So, no crime undergirds Bragg’s fetish.

Second, the Federal Election Commission failed to judge any of this a crime. The FEC convened on Feb. 23, 2021. Its four voting members—two appointed by Democrats and two by Republicans—deadlocked. They could have criminalized this scenario, but they didn’t.

Third, the statutes of limitations have lapsed on all but one charge against Trump. The FEC’s First General Counsel Report specified on Dec. 7, 2020, that Trump faced three matters under review: The deadline for prosecution on MURs 7313 and 7319 was “Oct. 27, 2021 (earliest) – Dec. 8, 2021 (latest).”

MUR 7379’s limitation is “October 26, 2021 (earliest) – April 17, 2023 (latest).” While the expiration date on this accusation remains ahead (barely), Bragg has a huge problem. On Page 6 of its report, the FEC’s general counsel wrote: “ … we recommend that the Commission dismiss the allegation that Cohen, Trump, and the Trump Committee violated 52 U.S.C. § 30114(b) by converting campaign funds to personal use.”

Oops.

Fourth, with two-year, misdemeanor statutes of limitations hindering him, Bragg reportedly wants to file felony charges against Trump. These carry five-year deadlines and threaten stiffer penalties.

However, to make this a federal felony case (puzzling work for a local prosecutor), the alleged violation (filing false campaign-finance reports) must be tied to a second, separate underlying crime. Since the FEC failed to rule any of this criminal, Bragg’s felony indictment would be a hot air balloon anchored to absolutely nothing.

Fifth, beyond the FEC, Gotham’s U.S. attorney and Bragg’s predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr., both declined to prosecute Trump for hush money.

For his part, “Bragg appeared not to be focused on the case,” The Washington Post reported soon after he took office in January 2022. “Bragg didn’t seem keenly interested.”

That Feb. 23, Bragg’s Trump-related “inactivity,” as the Post described it, triggered the resignations of his deputies, Carey Dunne and Mark Pomerantz.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz wrote Bragg as he quit. Pomerantz described the case against Trump as “suspended indefinitely.”

Pomerantz’s new book “People vs. Donald Trump: An Inside Account” bashes Bragg’s decision. This pressure and relentless Democratic demands to “get Trump” apparently pushed Bragg to spurn the law and instead fashion fresh partisan gifts for his fellow leftists.

Armed with these facts, Trump’s attorneys should file a motion to dismiss and then watch Bragg’s untethered contraption go up, up, and away.

It should be noted that Bragg's predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr is not only a Democrat but the son of President Jimmy Carter's Secretary of State, Cyrus Vance Sr. He refused to prosecute because there was nothing there.
George Soros' little fat toad can have his "Big Frog In A Little Puddle" dog and pony show. It will be thrown out of court as baseless.

These are some LEGAL FACTS about Trump's nothing b... (show quote)

Anyone who could possibly think that Alvin Bragg did not take everything mentioned here plus many more factors into consideration long before indicting Donny is not connected with reality. The naive ones are the guys who wrote this article. Bragg would not have indicted Fat Donny without the assurance resulting from his own exhaustive study of the case as well as from the input of many others in his office and the assessment that his chances of winning the case are 99+%. That's just the way the high profile DA's work.

billlingle

Milosia2 wrote:

Yeah , we know , it’s both shocking and appalling.... (show quote)

Well done!

Farnorth

Justice101 wrote:

Who cares why lying Cohen perjured himself regarding the NDA payments to the porn star. His 5 charges were for his own serious and stupid tax evasion, 1 charge of perjury to a financial institution, and 2 campaign contribution violations you can look it up. The FEC could have brought charges against Trump if he was guilty. Usually, it's the rich Democratic politicians that get off from being charged.

Tax evasion? Cohen, not rich enough to get off. The campaign violations were because of trumps adultery, and he knew you would not vote for him if you knew what a sleazy actor he really is

Justice101

Farnorth wrote:

Tax evasion? Cohen, not rich enough to get off. The campaign violations were because of trumps adultery, and he knew you would not vote for him if you knew what a sleazy actor he really is

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/here-are-the-charges-michael-cohen-admitted-to-in-federal-court.html

Nah, the porn star was paid off at the time so Melania wouldn't find out about the affair and so was the McDougal payoff from Trump's friend at the Enquirer -to quash the story. Many of our former Presidents of both political parties had affairs while being married. Power always gravitates downwards where their brains happen to reside quite often.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Milosia2 wrote:

Yeah , we know , it’s both shocking and appalling.... (show quote)

A long winded repeat of often stated opinions with absolutely NOTHING to do with the post it is allegedly answering.
Why not have a go with addressing the legal points presented? Maybe it is because you have exactly what Bragg has......nothing at all.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

JFlorio wrote:

Doesn’t matter if he did or not dumba**. It’s not illegal.

They might as well indite Trump, with absolute PROOF, film clips and everything, for eating a cheeseburger.

Turtle keeper

Farnorth wrote:

Why did he plead the fifth 440 times?? He said only criminals do that. I’m sure the secrets will be found, but I doubt that anyone cares. You don’t seem to.

I wonder why President Trump refused to make his taxes public??? If you noticed it infuriated the left so much they couldn’t stand it. They just knew he was hiding something. So they took him to court and the Judge forced him to. So President Trump made them public. WOW again a nothing burger. The left AGAIN had nothing. President Trump has the lefties right we’re he wants them. The American John Q Public is getting tired of the Godless left. So Just because he is indicted does not mean there will ever be a trial. Everything the left is doing is trying to run election tampering. Last election they committed voter fraud now they are trying a different tactic. This country will never be free until the left is defeated. George Soros and all of his money needs sent to Hungry I believe they have a warrant for his arrest. Joe Biden and his family needs to spend many years in jail for the money paid to them for political favors. All you ignorant leftists on this site enjoy what you can while you can. The left is about to fail again.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Turtle keeper wrote:

I wonder why President Trump refused to make his t... (show quote)

It could fail again, this time. I know, RawStory only prints lies but you might like this one

https://www.rawstory.com/stormy-daniels-trump-2659710257/

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

These are some LEGAL FACTS about Trump's nothing burger indictment. Left Wingers who are peeing their panties with anticipation should change their Depends and read them.

From DeRoy Murdock......

First, hush money is no crime, unless someone gets paid to stay silent among police, prosecutors, defense attorneys, or judges. That is obstruction of justice.

Trump would be a criminal had he instructed his then-attorney Michael Cohen to wire $130,000 to Stephanie Clifford (nom de porn Stormy Daniels) to clam up if law enforcement asked about the adulterous affair that she alleges, and Trump denies.

Alas for Bragg, Trump reputedly paid Daniels not to talk with journalists. This is perfectly legal. Anyone who has signed a nondisclosure agreement (as Daniels did) understands this.

So, no crime undergirds Bragg’s fetish.

Second, the Federal Election Commission failed to judge any of this a crime. The FEC convened on Feb. 23, 2021. Its four voting members—two appointed by Democrats and two by Republicans—deadlocked. They could have criminalized this scenario, but they didn’t.

Third, the statutes of limitations have lapsed on all but one charge against Trump. The FEC’s First General Counsel Report specified on Dec. 7, 2020, that Trump faced three matters under review: The deadline for prosecution on MURs 7313 and 7319 was “Oct. 27, 2021 (earliest) – Dec. 8, 2021 (latest).”

MUR 7379’s limitation is “October 26, 2021 (earliest) – April 17, 2023 (latest).” While the expiration date on this accusation remains ahead (barely), Bragg has a huge problem. On Page 6 of its report, the FEC’s general counsel wrote: “ … we recommend that the Commission dismiss the allegation that Cohen, Trump, and the Trump Committee violated 52 U.S.C. § 30114(b) by converting campaign funds to personal use.”

Oops.

Fourth, with two-year, misdemeanor statutes of limitations hindering him, Bragg reportedly wants to file felony charges against Trump. These carry five-year deadlines and threaten stiffer penalties.

However, to make this a federal felony case (puzzling work for a local prosecutor), the alleged violation (filing false campaign-finance reports) must be tied to a second, separate underlying crime. Since the FEC failed to rule any of this criminal, Bragg’s felony indictment would be a hot air balloon anchored to absolutely nothing.

Fifth, beyond the FEC, Gotham’s U.S. attorney and Bragg’s predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr., both declined to prosecute Trump for hush money.

For his part, “Bragg appeared not to be focused on the case,” The Washington Post reported soon after he took office in January 2022. “Bragg didn’t seem keenly interested.”

That Feb. 23, Bragg’s Trump-related “inactivity,” as the Post described it, triggered the resignations of his deputies, Carey Dunne and Mark Pomerantz.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz wrote Bragg as he quit. Pomerantz described the case against Trump as “suspended indefinitely.”

Pomerantz’s new book “People vs. Donald Trump: An Inside Account” bashes Bragg’s decision. This pressure and relentless Democratic demands to “get Trump” apparently pushed Bragg to spurn the law and instead fashion fresh partisan gifts for his fellow leftists.

Armed with these facts, Trump’s attorneys should file a motion to dismiss and then watch Bragg’s untethered contraption go up, up, and away.

It should be noted that Bragg's predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr is not only a Democrat but the son of President Jimmy Carter's Secretary of State, Cyrus Vance Sr. He refused to prosecute because there was nothing there.
George Soros' little fat toad can have his "Big Frog In A Little Puddle" dog and pony show. It will be thrown out of court as baseless.

These are some LEGAL FACTS about Trump's nothing b... (show quote)

I think they were encouraged to vote for indictment, if they actually did. If they actually did, I think they were lied to and voted based upon lies. Indeed, they might not have voted to indict and this is a big scam effort to drive the MAGA crowd into a frenzy and start rioting. I think that would suit them just fine.

billlingle

Justice101 wrote:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/here-are-the-charg... (show quote)

I have a bridge for sale and I think that you're just the guy to buy it.

billlingle

RandyBrian wrote:

A long winded repeat of often stated opinions with absolutely NOTHING to do with the post it is allegedly answering.
Why not have a go with addressing the legal points presented? Maybe it is because you have exactly what Bragg has......nothing at all.

Take solace in thinking that Bragg has nothing more than a grudge or some other nonsense that would be more associated with the likes of a Trump mentality. When that is finally shown to be positively ridiculous and Fat Donny gets eviscerated you will have those moments of delusion to reflect upon.

Farnorth

Justice101 wrote:

Who cares why lying Cohen perjured himself regarding the NDA payments to the porn star. His 5 charges were for his own serious and stupid tax evasion, 1 charge of perjury to a financial institution, and 2 campaign contribution violations you can look it up. The FEC could have brought charges against Trump if he was guilty. Usually, it's the rich Democratic politicians that get off from being charged.

The fec and the doj were instructed not to prosecute by bill Barr. We have his texts to prove that. I’m not going to post anything since you could read it by yourself, but tell me he is innocent, that he did not pay these two women . The other investigations use his phone calls and I would be in jail if I had anything like secret papers in my possession. Not our cult hero, he is impervious to prosecution.

albertk

RascalRiley wrote:

It could fail again, this time. I know, RawStory only prints lies but you might like this one

https://www.rawstory.com/stormy-daniels-trump-2659710257/

Turtle keeper

billlingle wrote:

Anyone who could possibly think that Alvin Bragg d... (show quote)

What you say really sounds good, except Bragg is doing what he is being told to do. If you look around the country at all of the Soros backed DA’s are trying to change the laws by not prosecuting violent offenders. In turn causing high crime in their area. The Democrats have been trying to destroy police departments throughout the country. Put this together and they are trying to destroy this country. They are so power hungry they are willing to do anything for it. I feel sorry for anyone that can’t see it. Especially if they have young children or grandchildren. You are just dooming them to live under Socialism at best but more likely Communism. When you see them again give them a big Hug and a Kiss and tell them you’re sorry for being so ignorant that you believe anything a Democrat tells you.