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America's Little Barbarians: Popular NJ Italian restaurant banning children under 10: 'Liability to us' Call the babysitter
Mar 30, 2023 05:48:16   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
This is an excellent reminder of the sure demise of a society that forgets their God- neglecting to even introduce their children to Him.

They have no fear of the Lord, no respect for their parents, for their teachers, or for any legal authorities.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/Four_little_barbarians.html

By Patrick Reilly
February 10, 2023

Recently, an establishment called Nettie's House of Spaghetti in New Jersey announced they will no longer allow children under 10 to dine at their restaurant. The move caused controversy, with some respondents applauding the policy and others accusing Nettie’s staff of being “child haters.” But [a commentator] summed the issue up succinctly:

“We don't hate your kids,” she wrote. “We hate your parenting.” Congratulations, madam, you won the Internet today.

If this seems a tempest in a teapot, know that it has implications for our entire society, because it reflects a deadly modern problem: Too many Americans are failing to civilize their children.

It should be obvious that no restaurant would take such a decision lightly, as you want as many customers as possible coming through your doors. But Nettie’s management explained on social media that while they love kids, because of the “noise levels, lack of space for high chairs, cleaning up crazy messes, and the liability of kids running around the restaurant, we have decided that it's time to take control of the situation.”

If you’re wondering why our civilization is in steep decline, coming apart at the seams, with liberty imperiled, this is the reason.

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom,” Benjamin Franklin observed. “As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” Failing to recognize this truth is deadly. President Ronald Reagan once warned that “[f]reedom is never more than one generation away from extinction”; focusing on freedom, however, as so many today do exclusively, is to put the cart before the horse. For Reagan’s statement is only true insofar as virtue is never more than one generation away from extinction.

“Virtue” is the word, too. No, this has nothing to do with “virtue-signaling,” an appealing but misguided term that simultaneously flatters leftists and demeans a noble, necessary and divine concept (so I instead say “value-signaling”). Leftists are opponents of “virtue,” which is defined as that set of “objectively good moral habits”; in reality, liberals have traditionally called their faux virtue “values,” though it actually is vice.

Now, babies are born little barbarians; some even describe them as tiny “sociopaths.” Regardless, parents’ job is to civilize them, make them the kind of people who can sustain civilization. This involves modeling virtue and cultivating it, the latter via moral teaching; incentivizing good behavior; and, yes, punishing misbehavior.

The last concept is especially unfashionable today (except when punishing politically disfavored people for politically incorrect “transgressions” {i.e., “hate” crimes}; then the punishment can’t be harsh enough). But there’s a reason why the Bible tells us, “Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.”

Ancient Greek philosopher Plato spoke about this when saying that a child should ideally be raised in an atmosphere of nobility and grace (i.e., our modern culture’s antithesis) so that he can develop an “erotic”- as in emotional, not sexual - attachment to virtue. Once accomplished, he’ll be more likely to accept the dictates of reason upon reaching the age of reason.

Tragically, though, far easier is “developing” (our fallen state makes this personal slouch toward Gomorrah natural) in children an erotic attachment to vice. In fact, our society, with its sexually, ideologically and morally corruptive schooling and entertainment, appears as if it’s designed to do just that. Then when the child reaches the age of reason, he’ll be quite unreasonable. He’ll have misbegotten emotional attachments that will - and this must be understood - correlate with evil ideologies.

So take heed, because the brats running around in restaurants today will be running, and ruining, the country tomorrow - and those who’ve not mastered themselves will be mastered by tyrants.

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Apr 1, 2023 09:32:14   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Zemirah wrote:
This is an excellent reminder of the sure demise of a society that forgets their God- neglecting to even introduce their children to Him.

They have no fear of the Lord, no respect for their parents, for their teachers, or for any legal authorities.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/Four_little_barbarians.html

By Patrick Reilly
February 10, 2023

Recently, an establishment called Nettie's House of Spaghetti in New Jersey announced they will no longer allow children under 10 to dine at their restaurant. The move caused controversy, with some respondents applauding the policy and others accusing Nettie’s staff of being “child haters.” But [a commentator] summed the issue up succinctly:

“We don't hate your kids,” she wrote. “We hate your parenting.” Congratulations, madam, you won the Internet today.

If this seems a tempest in a teapot, know that it has implications for our entire society, because it reflects a deadly modern problem: Too many Americans are failing to civilize their children.

It should be obvious that no restaurant would take such a decision lightly, as you want as many customers as possible coming through your doors. But Nettie’s management explained on social media that while they love kids, because of the “noise levels, lack of space for high chairs, cleaning up crazy messes, and the liability of kids running around the restaurant, we have decided that it's time to take control of the situation.”

If you’re wondering why our civilization is in steep decline, coming apart at the seams, with liberty imperiled, this is the reason.

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom,” Benjamin Franklin observed. “As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” Failing to recognize this truth is deadly. President Ronald Reagan once warned that “[f]reedom is never more than one generation away from extinction”; focusing on freedom, however, as so many today do exclusively, is to put the cart before the horse. For Reagan’s statement is only true insofar as virtue is never more than one generation away from extinction.

“Virtue” is the word, too. No, this has nothing to do with “virtue-signaling,” an appealing but misguided term that simultaneously flatters leftists and demeans a noble, necessary and divine concept (so I instead say “value-signaling”). Leftists are opponents of “virtue,” which is defined as that set of “objectively good moral habits”; in reality, liberals have traditionally called their faux virtue “values,” though it actually is vice.

Now, babies are born little barbarians; some even describe them as tiny “sociopaths.” Regardless, parents’ job is to civilize them, make them the kind of people who can sustain civilization. This involves modeling virtue and cultivating it, the latter via moral teaching; incentivizing good behavior; and, yes, punishing misbehavior.

The last concept is especially unfashionable today (except when punishing politically disfavored people for politically incorrect “transgressions” {i.e., “hate” crimes}; then the punishment can’t be harsh enough). But there’s a reason why the Bible tells us, “Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.”

Ancient Greek philosopher Plato spoke about this when saying that a child should ideally be raised in an atmosphere of nobility and grace (i.e., our modern culture’s antithesis) so that he can develop an “erotic”- as in emotional, not sexual - attachment to virtue. Once accomplished, he’ll be more likely to accept the dictates of reason upon reaching the age of reason.

Tragically, though, far easier is “developing” (our fallen state makes this personal slouch toward Gomorrah natural) in children an erotic attachment to vice. In fact, our society, with its sexually, ideologically and morally corruptive schooling and entertainment, appears as if it’s designed to do just that. Then when the child reaches the age of reason, he’ll be quite unreasonable. He’ll have misbegotten emotional attachments that will - and this must be understood - correlate with evil ideologies.

So take heed, because the brats running around in restaurants today will be running, and ruining, the country tomorrow - and those who’ve not mastered themselves will be mastered by tyrants.
This is an excellent reminder of the sure demise o... (show quote)


I don’t think we have to wait until tomorrow, today’s democracy is in danger due to the selfishness of our elected representatives, both parties.
Children are simply a picture of the parents, and the helicopter style is just not working. You must allow a child to experience loss, in order to understand gain. The discipline is absolutely necessary. It’s difficult to administer discipline when you’re the only parent in the house. Society has been cracked and is now being torn down by globalist zealots.
The good news is that we know what is coming, and we know what the future holds.
We just don’t know when.
But IMHO, it’s soon.

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Apr 2, 2023 05:15:12   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Most of what you say, I am in agreement with, Marty.

I was a single parent in my home after my children were 13 and 14-1/2. My children respected me. There was no discipline lacking. It's a matter of will. God's faithfulness in answering prayer was the biggest factor.

They both received Christ, and were both baptized during their high school years, in the church in which my grandmother had been baptized many decades before.

Today, everything is about self gratification. Self, self, self. God answered that in advance.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you." (Romans 12:2-3)

Ten years ago my son would tell me, "well, we could have fifty years left before the rapture," today, he's listening for the Trump of God in the sky (no pun intended).

See the motivation behind the globalist elitists below.

Marty 2020 wrote:
I don’t think we have to wait until tomorrow, today’s democracy is in danger due to the selfishness of our elected representatives, both parties.
Children are simply a picture of the parents, and the helicopter style is just not working. You must allow a child to experience loss, in order to understand gain. The discipline is absolutely necessary. It’s difficult to administer discipline when you’re the only parent in the house. Society has been cracked and is now being torn down by globalist zealots.
The good news is that we know what is coming, and we know what the future holds.
We just don’t know when.
But IMHO, it’s soon.
I don’t think we have to wait until tomorrow, toda... (show quote)



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Apr 2, 2023 09:42:47   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Zemirah wrote:
Most of what you say, I am in agreement with, Marty.

I was a single parent in my home after my children were 13 and 14-1/2. My children respected me. There was no discipline lacking. It's a matter of will. God's faithfulness in answering prayer was the biggest factor.

They both received Christ, and were both baptized during their high school years, in the church in which my grandmother had been baptized many decades before.

Today, everything is about self gratification. Self, self, self. God answered that in advance.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you." (Romans 12:2-3)

Ten years ago my son would tell me, "well, we could have fifty years left before the rapture," today, he's listening for the Trump of God in the sky (no pun intended).

See the motivation behind the globalist elitists below.
Most of what you say, I am in agreement with, Mart... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2023 09:44:15   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Zemirah wrote:
Most of what you say, I am in agreement with, Marty.

I was a single parent in my home after my children were 13 and 14-1/2. My children respected me. There was no discipline lacking. It's a matter of will. God's faithfulness in answering prayer was the biggest factor.

They both received Christ, and were both baptized during their high school years, in the church in which my grandmother had been baptized many decades before.

Today, everything is about self gratification. Self, self, self. God answered that in advance.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you." (Romans 12:2-3)

Ten years ago my son would tell me, "well, we could have fifty years left before the rapture," today, he's listening for the Trump of God in the sky (no pun intended).

See the motivation behind the globalist elitists below.
Most of what you say, I am in agreement with, Mart... (show quote)

That’s certainly the leader of the movement against God and man, wrapped around the fruit.

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