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Jul 18, 2014 09:04:38   #
Frank2014
 
Corporations are people, either stockholders if public or individual if privately held. Corporations pay NO taxes. Every cent they are taxed is passed on to us, the consumer who uses their product. The Supreme Court was right, a privately held corporation has the values of it's owner but a publicly held corporation has owners with vastly differing values.

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Jul 18, 2014 09:26:24   #
migeli
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
You mean like wanting wanting "entitlements' from the governement,,,, who then robs the guy next to you and gives them to you.........


The wealthy get more entitlements than the poor.

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Jul 18, 2014 09:29:36   #
migeli
 
Super Dave wrote:
I have God given many rights. Those rights are affirmed by the constitution, not granted by the government. Since those rights come from God, only God can take them away.

Among those rights are the right to assembly, as within a corporation, union, or charitable group or other group.

I enjoy all of these rights, and use them all concurrently. IOW - When I assemble, the other rights do not disappear, because God doesn't limit the number of rights I can use at a given time.

Screw anyone that tries to take my rights from me.
I have God given many rights. Those rights are aff... (show quote)


Bringing in possibly mythical beings to support your arguement? How convenient.

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Jul 18, 2014 09:58:17   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
I missed the MSNBC special on how Government created the universe.

migeli wrote:
Bringing in possibly mythical beings to support your arguement? How convenient.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:00:04   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
It's true. And the more we plunge into Progressive Socialism, the more it is true.

Look around the word at Progressive totalitarians.. You don't find the Communist Utopia anywhere.
migeli wrote:
The wealthy get more entitlements than the poor.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:11:20   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Super Dave: No matter what GOD you have he don't gave you any rights to be greedy, anti social, and extremely prejudice.


You do realize that your own words just exposed you as greedy, anti-social, and extremely prejudicial ?

Thought not.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:14:48   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
migeli wrote:
The wealthy get more entitlements than the poor.


Perhaps the difference is: The poor have not stood up and started to earn the entitlements earned by the rich?

Opps; sorry I forgot to approve your socialist dogma.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:17:07   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
arvadaian wrote:
That used to be plenty of money.
Don't let them scare you into thinking social security won't be there and believe me when you need it it is nice to have.
These people spend their lives scared of one thing or another that's what makes them so easy to lead around. All you have to do is tell them something is out to get them and you own them.


Yes, Social Security will be there pay with the fake U.S. dollars paper printing daily by the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank with no buying power because the inflation, the Federal deficit, and nobody paying I.R.S. taxes according to low income, or no income at all.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:20:35   #
migeli
 
ghostcotcha wrote:
Perhaps the difference is: The poor have not stood up and started to earn the entitlements earned by the rich?

Opps; sorry I forgot to approve your socialist dogma.


And the children of the wealthy?

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Jul 18, 2014 10:41:00   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
No, they did not. Not even close.

Your works do expose you as either dishonest or stupid. There was nothing in my statement to show any of that.

ghostcotcha wrote:
You do realize that your own words just exposed you as greedy, anti-social, and extremely prejudicial ?

Thought not.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:44:24   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
Frank2014 wrote:
Corporations are people, either stockholders if public or individual if privately held. Corporations pay NO taxes. Every cent they are taxed is passed on to us, the consumer who uses their product. The Supreme Court was right, a privately held corporation has the values of it's owner but a publicly held corporation has owners with vastly differing values.


Frank2014: You don't know what you are talking about. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was designed to protect the free speech rights of people, not corporations. The 2010, U.S. Supreme Court ruling by 5 Republican majority Justices transformed the 1st. Amendment into a powerful tool for Corporations seeking to evade and invalidate Democratically-enacted reforms.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:49:31   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
Frank2014 wrote:
Corporations are people, either stockholders if public or individual if privately held. Corporations pay NO taxes. Every cent they are taxed is passed on to us, the consumer who uses their product. The Supreme Court was right, a privately held corporation has the values of it's owner but a publicly held corporation has owners with vastly differing values.


I am sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:49:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
I guess you didn't know that corporations are made up of people, did you?

Tell me... What other groups are there that you think require a person to lose his constitutional rights when they enter them? Does a union member lose his right to free speech?

A big problem with your argument is that it opposes the idea that the constitution was written to protect people, not government.

GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Frank2014: You don't know what you are talking about. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was designed to protect the free speech rights of people, not corporations. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 2010 by the Republican majority Justices transformed the 1st. Amendment into a powerful tool for Corporations seeking to evade and invalidate Democratically-enacted reforms.

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Jul 18, 2014 10:57:25   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
arvadaian wrote:
Is god or is it the people?
I say it's the people who gave us those rights and the people can take them away. NO GOD here.


Your parents failed in yoir up bring.
If man gives you your rights they can take them away. You will not understand that i'm sure.. If you can read, read the constitution and you will see that it makes it clear that GOD is giving you your rights, and as that is our law, shit heads like Obama and Holder can not take them away. I still doubt you can grasp that.

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Jul 18, 2014 13:19:19   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
To whom it may concern: We need the engine of Democracy driving ahead in top gear in our U.S. Congress to overturn those egregiously wrong decisions in our U.S. Supreme Court by 5 Republicans Justice majority in Citizens United and McCutcheon V. FEC that present a serious and direct threat to our Democracy by unleashed a torrent of Corporate and special interest $$$$ money in our political process unmatched by any campaign expenditure totals in U.S.A. history seeking to evade and invalidate Democratically-enacted reforms in our U.S. Congress, and our U.S. Government.
To whom it may concern: We need the engine of Dem... (show quote)


Gerry: The sooner you realize we live in a Republic...a Republic!...not a Democracy! The better you can start being a responsible citizen instead of a village idiot!!!!!
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