Rose42

You don’t have to read all her posts to recognize dishonesty and hyperbole. Its quite interesting you’re oblivious to it

You’re being disingenuous. As Jan 6th showed zealotry is counter productive and can be harmful.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

proud, Fascism is interesting because the MAGA Republicans seem to agree with many of its basic ideas. The belief of a divinely inspired leader is one of them. " Only I can fix it"," I come right after Jesus" is another example.
The attempt to overthrow the constitution is right out of Hitlers handbook. Jan 6th was an attempt to deny the results of a fair and honest election. A belief in violence to achieve political goals, has been displayed in Trumps political rallies. Hitler once said that if you make the lie big enough, and repeat it often enough, people will believe it. According to the Washington Post, Trump lied or made misleading statements OVER THIRTY THOUSAND TIMES. It started with Obama was born in Africa, to the big lie that Trump had the election stolen from him.
I'm not saying that the entire Republican Party is fascist, but many certainly are. Just read some of the more extreme OPP posts.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Will this finally sink in with you, saltwind?

The Banksters control both parties by installing vetted CFR members
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Zbigniew Brzezinski formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in 1973, and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter became President, & ZB was installed as Carter's National Security Adviser.
(ZB was also adviser to Obama)
ZB - Referring to the rivalry between the USSR and the United States – “The eventual outcome of the competition is however, foreordained, given the inherent superiority of the communist system “ 'Between Two Ages' (1970 - p.146)

“The Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known.” – Senator Louis T. McFadden (22 years on the U.S. Banking & Currency Commission) Google : Louis T. McFadden, Congressional Record, Fed expose
Great book on NWO agenda – ‘The World Order’ by Eustace Mullins at Amazon
Both parties have put America in debt over $31 Trillion to the Parasites
Restoration and use of Constitutional US Notes; without interest to The FED RES Bank, is the only solution.
Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson did it; John F. Kennedy was trying. JFK had US notes printed and in circulation before he was assassinated.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Your assumptions are as valuable as all the other ignorant mind readers in your party.

Big Kahuna

Liberals may not talk about communism but leftists policies smell of communism with them trying to wrap communism ideology in an Armani bottle of perfume. It's still foul smelling.

Big Kahuna

You are right, people were fed up with the demorats lies, election stealing, deception, dishonesty and corruption and were mostly peaceful protesting, which was certainly their right. Some are still in prison, stripped of all Constitutional rights, for a misdemeanor of trespassing. How sick is that??

Big Kahuna

Dems don't worry about overthrowing our Constitution. They just ignore it, trample on it and thumb their nose at it while ripping it up like Nanny pigloosli. The dems are fascistic, communistic and totalitarian all wrapped into their authoritarianism ideologies.

straightUp Loc: California

The interesting thing here is that a lot of those people say they were utterly convinced that the election was NOT fair and honest, which means they were being manipulated, which is another check mark of fascism.
Cue the "Marxist" rant... (same thing happens on the left). Well... not really. We aren't seeing mobs of Marxists attacking the capital.


cue the "Antifa/BLM" rant.
Never mind the fact that antifa is not an organization, but a mere fad among young people. They have no political connection or agenda. They just feel compelled to flip fascists a middle-finger and BLM has nothing to do with antifa or any riots. The whole point of BLM is to reduce the violence not increase it. The blaming of BLM for the vandalism that happened near and after the protests is an exercise in propaganda, similar to how the Nazis blamed Jews for all kinds of problems they had nothing to do with. Yes, some of the vandals described themselves as antifa but leave it to MAGA propaganda to exaggerate the hell out of the George Floyd riots. They talk up a storm about the horrible riots that were so much worse than Jan 6th, but there's no pictures or video that matches the size of the fish in their stories.

But getting back to your point, yes, it's incredibly obvious which side is more willing to resort to violence. One side is almost entirely peaceful, with only a tiny scrap of brawling youths and the other is brimming with paramilitary groups and bristling with guns, literally attacking government buildings, with their representatives inside and threatening to kill them. This really isn't that far off from the brownshirts and blackshirts of Germany and Italy under fascist influence.


And now Fox News executives are actually admitting under oath that they DID in fact lie about the elections. Fox News the organization that set the legal precedent in a Florida court, like 20 years ago that news does not have to be true. They even voted for a representative who admitted to lying about his career and his education.


I agree it's not the entire Republican Party... But I *would* say the MAGA movement is primarily fascist, whether it's participants realize it or not.

straightUp Loc: California

I've always liked your Libertarian perspective and I often want to talk to you about it because you're not entrenched in the Republican/Democrat slap fight like so many others here and you seem to recognize that there's an external power beyond the reach of our democracy that controls us... and you're not wrong about your demons of choice, the central banks and the CFR. But you never seem to make that association with the neoliberals.

What's up with that? How can you be ranting about the central banks and the CFR for so many years and not realize they are all operating as neoliberals?

I'm going to lay something on ya... let me know what you think.

The neoliberals are of course the primary advocates of the free market. The point of the free market is keep government out. I'm going to paraphrase that now... The point of the free market is to push DEMOCRACY out.

That leaves only one form of power to reign supreme. Capital. So if I have $100 and you only have $10, I win. There's not even a debate. Maybe you got a buddy who feels the same way as you and he also has $10. I still win, because $100 is still more than $20. Now if democracy had a role, you and your buddy would win because I only have one vote and you have two. So this is why I would want neoliberals around to make sure that doesn't happen.

People are so fixed on the tyranny of democracy (government) that they don't even think about the tyranny of the free market. They hear the word "free" and think that means it's free for everyone. But I'm sure you're familiar enough with the way the "banksters" work... They basically rule the world with money.

However, you are stoutly opposed to the arch-enemy of neoliberalis the only existing force that can stand toe-to-toe with them... democratic socialism or at the very least, a government regulated market.

So, if you think there is another path - I'd love to hear it.

straightUp Loc: California

I don't see it. I don't see liberals advocating the abolition of private property... or money... I think what you are talking about is that slippery-slope argument against anything Marx ever mentioned, as if his mere mention of an ideology such as socialism makes it a path to communism. What does that say about capitalism then? Because he mentioned capitalism a LOT, not as something to kill but something to embrace as the first step toward communism.


I don't think I believe you. I think it's more likely those that went to prison did more than trespassing and it's typical propaganda to say, "well *one* of his five violations was trespassing... let's just report that".

microphor Loc: Home is TN

I guess if you say so, Ahahaha Ahahaha 😆.

Big Kahuna

If you have $100 and I have $10, I need to work harder, maybe get more education, a better job or get creative and find a way to make $50 dollars. I should not be envious of you nor want to steal your money. I might even want to learn from you how you got that $100 dollars, then maybe I too can make $100 dollars or even $200 dollars.

Big Kahuna

Never will be demorat socialism. Socialism is the word and it needs no adjective in front of it to hide its real meaning. I can see you drank Bernie Sanders Kool-Aid again. His idea of demorat socialism is more for me and less for you. His mega mansions are just a few of his ideas of "demorat" socialism. And then those mansions were a gift from the other demorat socialist, Hitlery Clinton, to keep him from contesting his primary win against her and her paying him to drop out of the demorat presidential race. Demorat socialism was really quid pro quo (like the other demorat socialist, Slo joe). Slo joe always wants his 10% or more in his demorat socialism ideology. He is a grifter, a con man, corrupt as hell and an election thief and plagiarist. Yes, that is your demorat socialism at work. In the end, it is a failure. Why do you think Hitlary is a demorat socialist? She knows it sounds good in theory but is one of the biggest con jobs going. Like she said, you are easy to manipulate and I enjoy manipulating you too as it is very easy.

Big Kahuna

Communism and socialism eventually lead to Capitalism in some form (as the people start hating the shackles it imposes on them) which Trumps both of the inferior ideologies of socialism and communism.

Big Kahuna

Quit the lies that you propagate. You know damn well that many of those in prison because of the skirmish on 1/6 committed no serious crime and are in prison for nothing more than trespassing misdemeanors. It was a mostly peaceful protest until the FBI and Capitol Police got involved with their underhanded manipulations of the crowd by opening up the doors, gates, and entry into the building. That black armed cop who murdered the White unarmed Ashley Babbitt should be the one in prison, shackled like the rat that he was and throw in Nanny pigloosli too for not listening to Trump telling her she should have more law enforcement as back up.