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Feb 20, 2023 06:03:59   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
newbear wrote:
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LogicallyRight, I am interested in all your posts. It is because you are the the the word "troll". What does it mean please explain.


Trolls are people who post annoying, biased claims with little or no proof in the hopes of pissing people off and stirring up controversy.
There are doubtless leftists who consider me a troll because I attack them frequently. Unlike them, I provide sources and cites for my claims and they are usually official government documents, court decisions, etc, rather than a troll's reliance on leftist rags and bullshit YouTube videos.

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Feb 20, 2023 06:47:58   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Well , why. ?
Maybe you know ?
I don’t know anyone who knows why they think they will be better off as Fascists !!
Boggles the mind.
I am positive I will not get any sort of enlightening answer here.
Only poo poo and innuendo.
And then they’ll all be fascists blaming the Dems for forcing them to be Fascists.


This is an opinion piece written by another zealot. Of course people will poo poo this silly tripe.

Calling everyone fascist won’t make that lie true. Just like calling all democrats communists won’t make that true either.

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Feb 20, 2023 08:18:40   #
American Vet
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Male white supremacy is real and white suppression of minorities, particularly Black and Brown people along with gender minorities and women, absolutely permeates every aspect of our society, from business to culture to governance.
Without setting aside that reality, it’s useful to examine why so many white people, with their built-in white privilege, would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with wannabe dictators like Trump, Abbott, and DeSantis.
All over social media people are asking, “Why would anybody embrace fascism? Why would they be willing to overthrow a functioning democratic republic?”
And why now, instead of forty or more years ago?
The answer is simple: their perception of their own safety.
Safety is at the foundation of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Human Needs. If a person doesn’t feel safe, they’re not able to even think about other dimensions of life.
If you’re crossing a busy street and stuck in the middle as cars are whizzing by on both sides, you’re not thinking of your job opportunities or the next car you want to buy or even what’s for dinner or your love life. You just want to get safe!
And, increasingly, working class white men in America are feeling unsafe as America is conspicuously becoming browner. They’re told daily by an entire movement based in the GOP — which includes over 1500 right wing talk radio stations, rightwing television networks, and hundreds of publications — that straight white men have targets on their backs.
Adult Hispanics in Texas, for example, outnumbered whites for the first time this decade. It’s a new and shocking feeling for a group that’s been in power for over 400 years, and — as we’re seeing with DeSantis and Abbott’s cruel fraud against asylum seekers and all the love it’s getting on Fox “News” — producing a predictable backlash.
Racism, homophobia, and misogyny have gone from the margins, kept to oneself, and blown into the mainstream, being amplified and celebrated daily by Republican politicians busing and flying brown-skinned asylum seekers around the country, to open attacks on teaching Black history in schools, to rants on radio and podcasts.
In 1981 Ronald Reagan and the GOP began a 40-year project to disempower and gut the American middle class wage earners, which was then mostly made up of white men.
He wanted to take away their wealth and their safety.
There was an actual rationale for this, laid out by Russell Kirk in his 1951 book The Conservative Mind that I detail in The Hidden History of American Oligarchy. Kirk argued that without clearly defined classes and power structures — essentially without the morbidly rich in complete control — society would devolve into chaos.
He and his followers essentially predicted in 1953 that if college students, women, working people, and people of color ever got even close to social and political power at the same level as wealthy white men, all hell would break loose.
(Keep in mind, this was at a time when racial segregation was legal and brutally enforced, the voting age was 21, campuses were almost entirely all-male, and women couldn’t open checking accounts or get credit cards without a husband or father’s signature.)
Throughout the 1950s, Kirk developed a small following; the most prominent of his proponents were William F. Buckley Jr. and Barry Goldwater. Most Republicans, though, considered him a crackpot.
But when the birth-control pill was legalized in 1961 and the Vietnam War heated up a few years later, those marginalized groups Kirk had warned his wealthy white male followers about began to rise up in protest.
Kids were burning draft cards, women were burning bras, and Martin Luther King Jr. was leading a movement for racial justice that the white power structure blamed for American cities burning.
Meanwhile, the Arab Oil Embargos of the 1970s had lit the flame of inflation, and unionized workers were striking all over America for wage increases to keep up with the rising cost of living.
The white male power structure freaked out. They became convinced that they were seeing Kirk’s prophecy play out in real time on their television screens every night.
Nixon demanded “law and order,” a euphemism for preventing students, women, striking union workers, or people of color from acquiring political and social power and the wealth that usually accompanies it.
He put into place his War on Drugs to, as his right-hand man John Ehrlichman famously noted, overtly criminalize being Black or an anti-war or pro-civil rights hippy.
Male white supremacy is real and white suppression... (show quote)


Proper sentences and spelling.

Many multiple syllable words.

Coherent thoughts.

Obviously the ignorant troll stole this article from someone else.


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Feb 20, 2023 08:48:09   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Well , why. ?
Maybe you know ?
I don’t know anyone who knows why they think they will be better off as Fascists !!
Boggles the mind.
I am positive I will not get any sort of enlightening answer here.
Only poo poo and innuendo.
And then they’ll all be fascists blaming the Dems for forcing them to be Fascists.


I would agree that there are still racist in the US, racist of all colors! But America has done great at addressing this wrong especially in that America is only 246 years old (1776 the signing of the declaration of independence). I look at my own family which is pretty diverse and has been for 2 generations, excluding a great-grandfather who married an Native American, that would make 4 generations of diverse peoples. Until Obamma came on the scene, America was becoming more and more color blind. Then he and his pastor, started the race baiting "again". I say "again" because apparently when Obamma went to church that's all he heard. The left continues to use race to divide the country. Examples: !. I say I believe in secure borders-building a wall, the left says I'm a racist. 2. I say I don't believe in special area in colleges just for peoples of color (segregation), the left says I'm a racists. 3. there should be no special allowances for "anyone" including people of color to go to college, the left says I'm a racist. ect. This is the problem-NOT racism, it's LEFTISM that's the problem. Still using minorities to get what they want, just like they have since establishing the KKK!

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Feb 20, 2023 09:27:03   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Male white supremacy is real and white suppression of minorities, particularly Black and Brown people along with gender minorities and women, absolutely permeates every aspect of our society, from business to culture to governance.
Without setting aside that reality, it’s useful to examine why so many white people, with their built-in white privilege, would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with wannabe dictators like Trump, Abbott, and DeSantis.
All over social media people are asking, “Why would anybody embrace fascism? Why would they be willing to overthrow a functioning democratic republic?”
And why now, instead of forty or more years ago?
The answer is simple: their perception of their own safety.
Safety is at the foundation of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Human Needs. If a person doesn’t feel safe, they’re not able to even think about other dimensions of life.
If you’re crossing a busy street and stuck in the middle as cars are whizzing by on both sides, you’re not thinking of your job opportunities or the next car you want to buy or even what’s for dinner or your love life. You just want to get safe!
And, increasingly, working class white men in America are feeling unsafe as America is conspicuously becoming browner. They’re told daily by an entire movement based in the GOP — which includes over 1500 right wing talk radio stations, rightwing television networks, and hundreds of publications — that straight white men have targets on their backs.
Adult Hispanics in Texas, for example, outnumbered whites for the first time this decade. It’s a new and shocking feeling for a group that’s been in power for over 400 years, and — as we’re seeing with DeSantis and Abbott’s cruel fraud against asylum seekers and all the love it’s getting on Fox “News” — producing a predictable backlash.
Racism, homophobia, and misogyny have gone from the margins, kept to oneself, and blown into the mainstream, being amplified and celebrated daily by Republican politicians busing and flying brown-skinned asylum seekers around the country, to open attacks on teaching Black history in schools, to rants on radio and podcasts.
In 1981 Ronald Reagan and the GOP began a 40-year project to disempower and gut the American middle class wage earners, which was then mostly made up of white men.
He wanted to take away their wealth and their safety.
There was an actual rationale for this, laid out by Russell Kirk in his 1951 book The Conservative Mind that I detail in The Hidden History of American Oligarchy. Kirk argued that without clearly defined classes and power structures — essentially without the morbidly rich in complete control — society would devolve into chaos.
He and his followers essentially predicted in 1953 that if college students, women, working people, and people of color ever got even close to social and political power at the same level as wealthy white men, all hell would break loose.
(Keep in mind, this was at a time when racial segregation was legal and brutally enforced, the voting age was 21, campuses were almost entirely all-male, and women couldn’t open checking accounts or get credit cards without a husband or father’s signature.)
Throughout the 1950s, Kirk developed a small following; the most prominent of his proponents were William F. Buckley Jr. and Barry Goldwater. Most Republicans, though, considered him a crackpot.
But when the birth-control pill was legalized in 1961 and the Vietnam War heated up a few years later, those marginalized groups Kirk had warned his wealthy white male followers about began to rise up in protest.
Kids were burning draft cards, women were burning bras, and Martin Luther King Jr. was leading a movement for racial justice that the white power structure blamed for American cities burning.
Meanwhile, the Arab Oil Embargos of the 1970s had lit the flame of inflation, and unionized workers were striking all over America for wage increases to keep up with the rising cost of living.
The white male power structure freaked out. They became convinced that they were seeing Kirk’s prophecy play out in real time on their television screens every night.
Nixon demanded “law and order,” a euphemism for preventing students, women, striking union workers, or people of color from acquiring political and social power and the wealth that usually accompanies it.
He put into place his War on Drugs to, as his right-hand man John Ehrlichman famously noted, overtly criminalize being Black or an anti-war or pro-civil rights hippy.
Male white supremacy is real and white suppression... (show quote)



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Feb 20, 2023 09:34:35   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
proud republican wrote:
What is your fascination with fascism??? Are you one??? What are you, Milosia?? Male/Female?? I am pro-Reagan Republucan who believes in LEGAL immigration, secure Border, safer streets.. I AM pro- Law enforcement, pro fiscal Responsibility... So I ask again ... What is your fing deal?? Why do you always talk about fascists?? Are you one of them?? Are your family tied to Nazis?? WHAT IS YOUR DEAL???


Nice try sweetie.
But it isn’t me .
If you think I’m a communist , it’s because you are a fascist .
It can’t add up any other way.
I need to be a Communist to promote your boogiemen politics of Fascism.
If I say I’m a patriotic American ,
You say I’m a communist .
I need to be a communist to enable all of your ffed up Fascistic Behavior.
Where are the patriotic Americans in your per view ?
Name one .
Are they now serving time for
Seditionist Insurrectionist Treasonous activities ?

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Feb 20, 2023 09:35:28   #
American Vet
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Nice try sweetie.
But it isn’t me .
If you think I’m a communist , it’s because you are a fascist .
It can’t add up any other way.
I need to be a Communist to promote your boogiemen politics of Fascism.
If I say I’m a patriotic American ,
You say I’m a communist .
I need to be a communist to enable all of your ffed up Fascistic Behavior.
Where are the patriotic Americans in your per view ?
Name one .


In addition to everything else, you are an ignorant troll.

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Feb 20, 2023 09:36:10   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
American Vet wrote:
Proper sentences and spelling.

Many multiple syllable words.

Coherent thoughts.

Obviously the ignorant troll stole this article from someone else.



There was plenty more.
But difficult to cut and paste all at the same time.
Too much effort me.
To post it for fools like you.

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Feb 20, 2023 09:41:27   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
microphor wrote:
I would agree that there are still racist in the US, racist of all colors! But America has done great at addressing this wrong especially in that America is only 246 years old (1776 the signing of the declaration of independence). I look at my own family which is pretty diverse and has been for 2 generations, excluding a great-grandfather who married an Native American, that would make 4 generations of diverse peoples. Until Obamma came on the scene, America was becoming more and more color blind. Then he and his pastor, started the race baiting "again". I say "again" because apparently when Obamma went to church that's all he heard. The left continues to use race to divide the country. Examples: !. I say I believe in secure borders-building a wall, the left says I'm a racist. 2. I say I don't believe in special area in colleges just for peoples of color (segregation), the left says I'm a racists. 3. there should be no special allowances for "anyone" including people of color to go to college, the left says I'm a racist. ect. This is the problem-NOT racism, it's LEFTISM that's the problem. Still using minorities to get what they want, just like they have since establishing the KKK!
I would agree that there are still racist in the U... (show quote)


Obama was very strict about not wandering into any racist traps.
He did not and would not even bring up race in a conversation.
Not all republicans are KKK members .
But All KKK Members are republicans.
Since 1965 .
And the Civil Rights Act by LBJ .

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Feb 20, 2023 09:43:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
This is an opinion piece written by another zealot. Of course people will poo poo this silly tripe.

Calling everyone fascist won’t make that lie true. Just like calling all democrats communists won’t make that true either.


Please enlighten me with your astute opinions.

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Feb 20, 2023 09:44:20   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Obama was very strict about not wandering into any racist traps.
He did not and would not even bring up race in a conversation.
Not all republicans are KKK members .
But All KKK Members are republicans.
Since 1965 .
And the Civil Rights Act by LBJ .

You lefty wack jobs always complain about the KKK. How many members do they have left six

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Feb 20, 2023 09:45:37   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Birdmam wrote:
You lefty wack jobs always complain about the KKK. How many members do they have left six



8.... and they're all Democrats.

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Feb 20, 2023 09:47:37   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
American Vet wrote:
Proper sentences and spelling.

Many multiple syllable words.

Coherent thoughts.

Obviously the ignorant troll stole this article from someone else.



It wasn’t stolen.
It was encouraged to be reprinted and forwarded by the author.
It doesn’t really make a difference does it ????
Except for the author being your childish object to blame.
And still no opinion on any of it ?
Really ????
Or maybe there’s nothing for youz to say .

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Feb 20, 2023 09:51:15   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
American Vet wrote:
In addition to everything else, you are an ignorant troll.


If you can’t do anything else , go ahead and just sit there pointing your finger.

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Feb 20, 2023 09:51:58   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It wasn’t stolen.
It was encouraged to be reprinted and forwarded by the author.
It doesn’t really make a difference does it ????
Except for the author being your childish object to blame.
And still no opinion on any of it ?
Really ????
Or maybe there’s nothing for youz to say .




Speak white........ don't care how many state supported Cafe mocha milkduds you're raising....... that's cultural appropriation.

Spooks don't care for that, neither do the injuns, ask Liz dirty drawers Warren.

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