woodguru wrote:
Biden is president...
Trump would have had so much latitude if he had still been president the DOJ wouldn't have touched him...trump in his own words keeps saying a president can do anything.
Biden is president he can do anything...trump is a civilian, and laws apply to any civilian including the ex president.
Once again you play fast and loose with the truth. Joe Biden IS President. He was not President for the years those classified documents sat in his garage and at his other office.
son of witless wrote:
Once again you play fast and loose with the truth. Joe Biden IS President. He was not President for the years those classified documents sat in his garage and at his other office.
He didn't have any authority to remove anything from the white house, he just stole those papers.
vernon wrote:
He didn't have any authority to remove anything from the white house, he just stole those papers.
That's right. The illustrious Liar and Thief
vernon wrote:
He didn't have any authority to remove anything from the white house, he just stole those papers.
Notice how I shut up wood guru. I contradicted him and he ran.
son of witless wrote:
Notice how I shut up wood guru. I contradicted him and he ran.
He always runs. That's what he does. I think he takes pleasure in being wrong.
woodguru wrote:
Biden is president...
to those resocrs.
Trump would have had so much latitude if he had still been president the DOJ wouldn't have touched him...trump in his own words keeps saying a president can do anything.
Biden is president he can do anything...trump is a civilian, and laws apply to any civilian including the ex president.
Of course, you and your ilk never address the fact that Biden was not entitled to the records. Trump was.
Try this one on for size there, woodguru. If the Penn-Biden Building was University owned and not federal ogvernment property, then Biden might have been in violation of espionage laws.
Put up or shut up.
guzzimaestro wrote:
He wasn't when the documents were removed
, Right on! Demoncrats, have a severly restricted ability to :think "outside of the Demoncrat box"! Distinguish truth, from fiction, even remotely understand personal responsibility, or patriotism...[ Let alone family values, God, & Country! :O{{
That's what happens when these*Demoncrat idiots, quit the 3rd grade, & take a career at car washing?
archie bunker wrote:
He always runs. That's what he does. I think he takes pleasure in being wrong.
The more I think about it the more I see these documents being found is a security failure. There are apparently no measures being taken to make sure that sensitive documents are returned to where they belong immediately after whatever briefings about the materials within them. Biden and yes trump probably did not do any thing that has not been done before . How many other Presidents and vice presidents- cabinet members- Senators -Generals -Admirals-etc. Have done the same thing and have just not been caught ?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The more I think about it the more I see these documents being found is a security failure. There are apparently no measures being taken to make sure that sensitive documents are returned to where they belong immediately after whatever briefings about the materials within them. Biden and yes trump probably did not do any thing that has not been done before . How many other Presidents and vice presidents- cabinet members- Senators -Generals -Admirals-etc. Have done the same thing and have just not been caught ?
The more I think about it the more I see these doc... (
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In the case of Trump you mean witch hunted.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The more I think about it the more I see these documents being found is a security failure. There are apparently no measures being taken to make sure that sensitive documents are returned to where they belong immediately after whatever briefings about the materials within them. Biden and yes trump probably did not do any thing that has not been done before . How many other Presidents and vice presidents- cabinet members- Senators -Generals -Admirals-etc. Have done the same thing and have just not been caught ?
The more I think about it the more I see these doc... (
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I think you're right Coos. Probably a lot of docs left the WH with prior Presidents and for the most part, people didn't think much of it because the President was still protected by agents, we thought documents were safe. But If any president in my lifetime gives me pause, when thinking they are working with foreign countries, it's the Biden's. "" I don't want anyone screaming Trump to me, Russian Collusion Delusion was a lie"" but we did see Biden threaten to withhold support to Ukraine if he didn't fire prosecutor investigating Hunter's employer. What was creepy, Joe was bragging about it!
Bottom line is Biden cannot be trusted to obey the federal laws relating to federal documents.
He has obtained funds from China and Ukcraine via his Artist son Hunter.
Seems any Democrat or liberal minded American should reevaluate their judgement.
woodguru wrote:
Biden is president...
Trump would have had so much latitude if he had still been president the DOJ wouldn't have touched him...trump in his own words keeps saying a president can do anything.
Biden is president he can do anything...trump is a civilian, and laws apply to any civilian including the ex president.
Biden was NOT president when he removed the documents. / Trump WAS president when he removed the documents.
Other differences include:
Trump openly removed the documents and in fact in Dec 2016 was in communication with the FBI over what was too sensitive to be declassified. Of course the FBI would prefer nothing be declassified but Trump pressed to declassify far more documents than the FBI and DOJ were comfortable with. Many, especially the FBI and DOJ, knew all along he took many documents including ones which had previously been classified. / Biden hid the fact he took the documents and didn't vet them with the FBI. If he hadn't he would not have been able to take them as he had no authority to do so.
Trump stored the documents in a storeroom vetted by the FBI in a place protected both by Mar-A-Lago security and the Secret Service. / Biden had one batch not only at a University with minimal security, which received large funding by China, but also in an office which had been used as a campaign headquarters which must have had several people given access to the closet and other unauthorized people may have gained access to the closet. Others were in a garage and home which Hunter Biden had access to and Hunter was in the pay of the Chinese government not to mention a drug adict who might be unable to make good judgement calls during times he was under the influence.
Trump was in communication and under negotiation with the National Archives over which documents would be sent to them when his home was raided and his lawyers were excluded from even observing the search. / Biden's lawyers discovered the documents and were the ones doing the search and so could access classified documents which they might not have had clearance for until they turned them over to the proper authorities.
Trump was raided, despite his being open about having the documents. / Biden was not raided even when documents he had no authority to take were found in multiple locations unknown to the authorities. And they have no knowledge of how many other caches there are and where they might be located.
One additional piece of information. The DOJ had been slow walking the declassification ordered by Trump of several files and the FBI and DOJ were after Trump to return the Crossfire Hurricane documents which he had declassified in Dec 2016 and Biden wanted to reclassify. These documents were definitely part of what they took in the raid.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
The more I think about it the more I see these documents being found is a security failure. There are apparently no measures being taken to make sure that sensitive documents are returned to where they belong immediately after whatever briefings about the materials within them. Biden and yes trump probably did not do any thing that has not been done before . How many other Presidents and vice presidents- cabinet members- Senators -Generals -Admirals-etc. Have done the same thing and have just not been caught ?
The more I think about it the more I see these doc... (
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Are you saying....Attorneys, don't do a very good job running this nation?
Imagine ...in this day & age....this was never before a problem....until "someone"....[ GBMNT crook}...from the FBI, "discovered" this?
Something stinks in Denmark! Overhaul Justice system, FBI?, CIA?, NSA?...[ who else?}
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