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Dec 15, 2022 06:31:13   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
the trump administration was one of the most costly in our nation's history.. cost overruns of 8 trillion Dollars in 4 years. A time when no crisis needed funding until the covid when he refused any responsibility.

Trump did not even give lip service to cost saving.




Joe Biden
On Oct. 1, 2021, at the end of the fiscal year 2021, the national debt was $28.4 trillion. Between the end of the fiscal year 2020 and the end of the fiscal year 2021, the national debt grew $1.5 trillion yearly, a 5.6% increase. For the fiscal year 2022, President Joe Biden's budget included a deficit of $1.84 trillion, and by August 2022, the national debt had grown to $30.8 trillion.

When Biden took office, the economy and household finances were still reeling from the pandemic, and Biden continued his predecessor's spending heavily to keep households afloat. In March 2021, Biden signed the American Rescue Plan, which showered taxpayers with pandemic relief cash in the form of stimulus checks and extra unemployment payments and temporarily expanded child tax credits, plus other help. It all came with a cost to future budgets: The bill would add $1.9 trillion to the national debt by 2031, the Congressional Budget Office estimated.10

The bipartisan infrastructure bill, signed by Biden in November 2021, which provided new funding for highways, railways, broadband Internet expansion, and other projects, added to the debt too, with estimates on its 10-year impact ranging from $374 billion to $400 billion, depending on how it's calculated.1112

Some of Biden's actions cut the other way. In August 2022, Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act. This anti-climate change bill spent money on new green energy programs and tax credits to make drugs cheaper for patients and paid for it by raising taxes on corporations and the ultra-wealthy. The bill should reduce the national debt by $102 billion by 2031, the CBO estimated.13

Biden followed up this bill with an executive action that forgave up to $10,000 of federal student loan debt per borrower and $20,000 for those who received Pell Grants. He also proposed a cheaper income-driven student loan repayment program for future borrowers. However, he also announced that student loan interest and required payments, both of which had been frozen since the pandemic hit, would resume in January 2023.14

In August 2022, the government did not officially estimate how these measures would impact the national debt. One piece of it—forgiving $10,000 of debt per student loan borrower—would cost $329.7 billion over ten years, according to an estimate by the Wharton School of Business.15

What calculator are you using?
Donald Trump

At the end of the fiscal year 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the national debt between the fiscal year 2017 and the fiscal year 2020, a 33.1% increase, mainly due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic and the 2020 recession.

Biden in 2 years, $30.8 trillion. Almost 2 trillion a year.
Trump in 4 years, $26.9 trillion. 1.675 trillion a year.

Top 5 Presidents Who Contributed to the Debt by Percentage
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

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Dec 15, 2022 07:24:51   #
Big Kahuna
 
EmilyD wrote:
There ya go!!! .....4 years of calm and no emergencies with Trump!! NOW you're starting to get it! About time!

Oh, by the way - fudgsicles are not orange, but it's understandable...you have orange brain fog. Probably from all toxic M-RNA spike proteins that are passing through your brain barrier into your brain. What's it like when everything in your world is orange, orange and more orange? No wonder you are constantly and consistently triggered!

Here ya go....feast on this for a while and stop bloviating all over the place....

....
There ya go!!! .....4 years of calm and no emergen... (show quote)


I'm certain Perm is in prison texting his bs with his bright orange prison garb on.

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Dec 15, 2022 07:50:25   #
maryla
 
EmilyD wrote:
Talk to me in about 2 years. If you're still alive, you will be singing a MUCH different tune...


Good one!!

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Dec 15, 2022 08:14:44   #
vernon
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Ain't that Witless crying about a decrease in the inflation. Give your boys a thank you for the lower gas prices, $2.71 this morning.


All he's done is drain the strategic OIL RESERVE instead of opening up the oil industry. We will pay for this in spades.

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Dec 15, 2022 09:12:22   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
F.D.R. wrote:
That's like thanking your killer for only using one bullet. If the idiot in chief hadn't caused the inflation he wouldn't have to worry about lowering it.


Good one and so true. Everytime I see the news that gas prices have gone down I think "still not as low as they were when Biden took office and nearly twice as much, at least here in CA!

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Dec 15, 2022 09:14:01   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
He's only responsible for bad results, not favorable ones

What favorable ones?

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Dec 15, 2022 09:45:14   #
Weswill
 
permafrost wrote:
couple points you seem to not want to know..

First what in your mind is energy independence?? we never had a time when we did not import oil and oil products..

We did have a few months in about 2017 when we exported more oil then we imported, but we still brought in foreign oil for use by us..

So what made low gas prices.. the biggest factor was demand.. We shut down a lot of the country during the pandemic.. with less demand the oil companies cut production even lower then trump did by forcing OPEC to cut production for 2 years. That cut back ended last spring or so.. you can look it up..

Then we opened back up and over night demand shot up but big oil did not boost production, they simply increased price.. Added to that was the putin war and resulted haul of purchase by many nations of Russian oil.. furthing the price boost.. because as you know Oil is a world wide business and the marketing is not local. so a cut back or increase simple goes world wide and will not only affect the local market..

Addition to the low price times.. tankers full of oil sat in harbors unable to move the load.. when they sit and wait, the oil companies must pay.. the equivalent of rent.. sometimes called demurrage.. not sure about the terms of the oil biz.. anyway it cost the oil biz money to have the tankers sitting and not moving any product.. further reason for the hold up of money eventually reaching us at the pump..

But all the charges told to you by the anti-Biden forces is not true.. it is complicated.. and as in everything. no simply solution for a complicated problem..

Want the easy peasy dream solution? Just destroy the oil biz construct and put it back together as a local operation, then the country in question.. as the USA, can indeed have a very real affect on the price of gas, using our own oil and refineries and marketing methods.. want to fly that by your best rep in washington.. see how it floats..
couple points you seem to not want to know.. br ... (show quote)


Energy independence is when we produce enough oil to meet our own needs without HAVING to import any. Yes the oil business is a global business where most all producing countries import and export oil to try and keep the price somewhat stable. Just like other countries the US does this as well. So even when the US does not produce enough oil for its own use , we still export and import. I agree this does not make much sense but I guess that it is how this business operates.
I can agree about all the shut downs during the pandemic both in demand slow downs and demand increases. But to say that the oil companies only increased the price is a little misleading to me. I don't recall any mass shortages of fuel that would say production was so low we could not get gas.
Bidens war on American energy is a very large contributor of our inflation. Sure there were other factors that contributed to our inflation but fuel effects EVERYTHING we buy, use and need. So when the price of fuel goes up or down prices for goods and services does the same.
The Biden administration does not seem to mind asking American oil companies to drill in places like Venesuala where the oil is less clean but restricts, henders or shut downs these companies from using our own resources in America where the end product is cleaner than most of the rest of the world..
So the Bidens war on American energy is a major or the main reason that oil companies did not increase production. Another reason was that Biden was asking other countries to up there production like Saudi Arabia which refused and not working with our oil companies to get more oil.

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Dec 15, 2022 10:57:05   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Weswill wrote:
Energy independence is when we produce enough oil to meet our own needs without HAVING to import any. Yes the oil business is a global business where most all producing countries import and export oil to try and keep the price somewhat stable. Just like other countries the US does this as well. So even when the US does not produce enough oil for its own use , we still export and import. I agree this does not make much sense but I guess that it is how this business operates.
I can agree about all the shut downs during the pandemic both in demand slow downs and demand increases. But to say that the oil companies only increased the price is a little misleading to me. I don't recall any mass shortages of fuel that would say production was so low we could not get gas.
Bidens war on American energy is a very large contributor of our inflation. Sure there were other factors that contributed to our inflation but fuel effects EVERYTHING we buy, use and need. So when the price of fuel goes up or down prices for goods and services does the same.
The Biden administration does not seem to mind asking American oil companies to drill in places like Venesuala where the oil is less clean but restricts, henders or shut downs these companies from using our own resources in America where the end product is cleaner than most of the rest of the world..
So the Bidens war on American energy is a major or the main reason that oil companies did not increase production. Another reason was that Biden was asking other countries to up there production like Saudi Arabia which refused and not working with our oil companies to get more oil.
Energy independence is when we produce enough oil ... (show quote)


That's right!

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Dec 15, 2022 11:01:30   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
microphor wrote:
Good one and so true. Everytime I see the news that gas prices have gone down I think "still not as low as they were when Biden took office and nearly twice as much, at least here in CA!



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Dec 15, 2022 11:21:03   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Can't debate what I said so you post your childish memes.

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Dec 15, 2022 13:02:31   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
microphor wrote:
Can't debate what I said so you post your childish memes.


Debate your whining, crying and lying?

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Dec 15, 2022 13:18:24   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
Can't debate what I said so you post your childish memes.


I'm sure you've noticed, but BBB NEVER debates ANYTHING. Just throws out silly questions and posts laughable memes. He thinks he is showing intellectual contempt, I suppose. That's much funnier than his cartoons and cartoonish remarks.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:10:52   #
son of witless
 
microphor wrote:
Can't debate what I said so you post your childish memes.


" childish memes " are Bad Bob's security blankets. When you so intimidate him that his mind goes blank, they are all his has got.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:37:17   #
Justice101
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Ain't that Witless crying about a decrease in the inflation. Give your boys a thank you for the lower gas prices, $2.71 this morning.


LOL. Supply and Demand for the decrease in gas prices. No need to give anyone credit-especially Idiot Joe.
Gas prices fall again in NJ, nation as demand remains low

https://www.local10.com/business/2022/12/10/gas-prices-fall-again-in-nj-nation-as-demand-remains-low/

Gas prices have again dropped sharply in New Jersey and around the country as demand remains slow and supplies continue to increase.

AAA Mid-Atlantic says the average price of a gallon of regular gas in New Jersey on Friday was $3.49, down 14 cents from last week. Drivers were paying $3.42 a gallon on average a year ago at this time.

The national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline was $3.31, down 13 cents last week. Drivers were paying $3.33 a gallon on average a year ago at this time.

Analysts say gas prices will likely continue to drop next week, though not as sharply as in recent weeks given the decision by OPEC to continue cutting production.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:46:17   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
" childish memes " are Bad Bob's security blankets. When you so intimidate him that his mind goes blank, they are all his has got.



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