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Jul 8, 2014 09:16:46   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
maelstrom wrote:
In their warped sense of thinking, if someone says "embrace others CHIOCE of beliefs, they view it as anti-God, or their Christianity....????


Can't any of you lefties spell????????????????????????????????

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Jul 8, 2014 09:32:54   #
PeterS
 
rickdri wrote:
Do you know what you are angry about? Did you know that Hobby Lobby was only contesting 4 of the 20 contraceptive methods?

That has already been "clarified" by the court and challenged to include all 20...and it took all of one day for this to happen. Yes I know what I am angry about. Sadly you don't seem to know what you are so happy about, or do you...

The Supreme Court on Tuesday confirmed that its decision a day earlier extending religious rights to closely held corporations applies broadly to the contraceptive coverage requirement in the new health care law, not just the handful of methods the justices considered in their ruling.

http://news.yahoo.com/justices-act-other-health-law-mandate-cases-133633160--politics.html;_ylt=A0LEV0_Jw7JTfGsAwEJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0aTRxYjk3BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQ2NF8x
http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/07/wider-impact-of-hobby-lobby-ruling/

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Jul 8, 2014 09:37:21   #
PeterS
 
JMHO wrote:
Here's a novel idea...PAY FOR YOUR OWN CONTRACEPTION! It's less than $300 a year! Why should I, as a taxpayer, pay for someone's promiscuous sex life??????

Insurance is part of employee compensation. I have paid for my own contraception. The question is why should I have to pay for it twice!

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Jul 8, 2014 09:38:12   #
PeterS
 
JMHO wrote:
Can't any of you lefties spell????????????????????????????????


Clearly as well as you...

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Jul 8, 2014 09:59:31   #
rickdri
 
PeterS wrote:
You're the one telling people not to use contraception. Check the mirror, maybe that is where the lack of responsibility has gone...


Conservatives do know the love of God! However just as liberals there are some that do not!

Businesses and taxpayers should not have to pay for contraceptives! This is a private issue! Insurance companies were already paying for birth control. Why is it necessary to include abortion? Abortion should not be a part of contraceptives. Tell me why is it also mandatory for people to pay for maternity coverage through the ACA. My premiums nearly tripled because I have to pay for coverage that I will never need nor use! Liberals claim the ACA is a free market law. Not so when you have to pay for coverage you will never need!

Liberals do not have the right to extend and force their beliefs upon everyone through the government! A person's religious beliefs are guaranteed in the first amendment of the Constitution. If a person has strong objections due to their beliefs they should not be forced into a situation where their beliefs are deemed null and void. Liberals do not have the right to use government to force their beliefs upon others. You are free to have your beliefs and practice them as you see fit without interference from anyone. Christians and conservatives are allowed the same latitude!

Yes one's personal affairs are the business of no one else. Stop making a woman's pregnancy everyone's business when she wants an abortion.

A woman that gets pregnant and does not want the baby is the mistake! If a woman does not want to get pregnant there are many means available to prevent the pregnancy! Abortion should not be used as a contraceptive! Even the liberal heroine Margaret Sanger was against using abortion as a contraceptive!

Some regulations are necessary! Conservatives are well aware of this. However we have gone way too far in regulating everything today!

I never said anything about not using contraceptives. In fact I stated this several times throughout my post. Go back and reread it! As for personal responsibility, everyone could do a better job at that!

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Jul 8, 2014 10:18:29   #
PeterS
 
rickdri wrote:
Conservatives do know the love of God!

It would be nice if you would start acting like it...

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Businesses and taxpayers should not have to pay for contraceptives! This is a private issue! Insurance companies were already paying for birth control.


So why are people asking that it be paid for twice?

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Tell me why is it also mandatory for people to pay for maternity coverage through the ACA. My premiums nearly tripled because I have to pay for coverage that I will never need nor use! Liberals claim the ACA is a free market law. Not so when you have to pay for coverage you will never need!


This is too far off the edge of your flat earth to even comment on...

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Liberals do not have the right to extend and force their beliefs upon everyone through the government!


And conservatives do? You just used the SCOTUS to force your religious beliefs on others. You are accusing others of doing exactly what you have just done!

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Yes one's personal affairs are the business of no one else. Stop making a woman's pregnancy everyone's business when she wants an abortion.


You clearly don't see how you contradicted yourself. The only one making it "everyone's" business is you--abortion or not...

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Jul 8, 2014 10:19:04   #
rickdri
 
PeterS wrote:
That has already been "clarified" by the court and challenged to include all 20...and it took all of one day for this to happen. Yes I know what I am angry about. Sadly you don't seem to know what you are so happy about, or do you...

The Supreme Court on Tuesday confirmed that its decision a day earlier extending religious rights to closely held corporations applies broadly to the contraceptive coverage requirement in the new health care law, not just the handful of methods the justices considered in their ruling.

http://news.yahoo.com/justices-act-other-health-law-mandate-cases-133633160--politics.html;_ylt=A0LEV0_Jw7JTfGsAwEJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0aTRxYjk3BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDQ2NF8x
http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/07/wider-impact-of-hobby-lobby-ruling/
That has already been "clarified" by the... (show quote)


As I stated before. Insurance companies already covered birth control. The Supreme Court upheld the Constitution as they should have. You remember the Constitution and the first amendment? The one that states congress shall no law in respect to the establishment of a religion and shall not impede the free exercise of!
By trying to force abortion upon those that are opposed brought on the demise. You say conservatives do not know God's love, yet you allow unborn children to be murdered all in the name of woman's rights! Where is the love in this action?

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Jul 8, 2014 10:28:40   #
rickdri
 
PeterS wrote:
You clearly don't see how you contradicted yourself. The only one making it "everyone's" business is you--abortion or not...


I am not going back and forth with you all day! Abortion is wrong in so many ways! I do not make it my business! I am told that I have to pay for something that I feel is wrong. You can be responsible and use contraceptive methods yet you want to be irresponsible and then expect for everyone else to be responsible for your juvenile behavior by not using contraceptives. Grow up and take the responsibility for your actions. No one else should be forced to pay for your "mistakes." As far as my forcing my beliefs upon you. not true. You can do anything you wish! I have no problem with this! However the first amendment of the Constitution provides religious freedom. Read the Constitution, it will do you some good!

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Jul 8, 2014 10:35:15   #
PeterS
 
rickdri wrote:
As I stated before. Insurance companies already covered birth control.

Then why are you so upset when people use them. As I said, insurance is part of employee compensation. How it is use in none of your business..
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The Supreme Court upheld the Constitution as they should have. You remember the Constitution and the first amendment? The one that states congress shall no law in respect to the establishment of a religion and shall not impede the free exercise of!


Where in the constitution does it say you can extend your religious beliefs over others?

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By trying to force abortion upon those that are opposed brought on the demise.

And if an employee used their compensation to pay for an abortion? What does a business have a right to do?

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You say conservatives do not know God's love, yet you allow unborn children to be murdered all in the name of woman's rights! Where is the love in this action?

What a woman does with her body is her business. God slew the unborn countless times in the bible so please do not preach to us about god love. It's how we treat the life once it is here that matters and the spit conservative "Christians" currently spew on speaks volumns for your lack of love...

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Jul 8, 2014 10:38:09   #
PeterS
 
rickdri wrote:
I am not going back and forth with you all day! Abortion is wrong in so many ways! I do not make it my business!

If it is none of your business why does it matter how many ways something is wrong? You contridict yourself everytime you open your mouth. A womans body is none of your business. Leave it at that!

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Jul 8, 2014 10:44:30   #
rickdri
 
PeterS wrote:
What a woman does with her body is her business. God slew the unborn countless times in the bible so please do not preach to us about god love. It's how we treat the life once it is here that matters and the spit conservative "Christians" currently spew on speaks volumns for your lack of love...


You need to read both the Bible and the Constitution! Find out the differences between the old and new Testaments! Find out about why the Constitution provides religious freedoms. Until you do you will walk around in the dark, angry about what you perceive as threats to your existence! No matter what I say you will believe what you want! God Bless You and have a wonderful day!

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Jul 8, 2014 21:37:42   #
Artemis
 
JMHO wrote:
Can't any of you lefties spell????????????????????????????????


Yes, an inverted typo, your petty and typical

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