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Dear Lucid Democrats (If Any Remain)
Sep 18, 2022 19:06:01   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/dear-lucid-democrats-any-that-remain



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Sep 18, 2022 19:09:13   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
ACP45 wrote:
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/dear-lucid-democrats-any-that-remain


"If we had done a poll of Democrats a week before the Martha's Vineyard incident about how sanctuary cities work, the vast majority would have said that sanctuary cities are places where "undocumented migrants" could go to be safe from deportation or imprisonment by the evil MAGA Republicans. That's what they've been told. Now, the narrative is rapidly shifting to state that sanctuary cities are places where "undocumented migrants" can go where they'll be moved somewhere else. We're hearing a lot about the lack of infrastructure to handle these people.

In other words, we're seeing a change in the propaganda that's intended to salvage the lies by redefining how the Democrat utopian dream is supposed to work for migrants."

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Sep 18, 2022 20:33:23   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/dear-lucid-democrats-any-that-remain


Felony kidnapping by inveiglement.
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement.
Both felony’s.
Whose money is paying for this debacle ?
It better not be taxpayer money being wasted on a stunt like this.

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Sep 19, 2022 04:59:11   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Felony kidnapping by inveiglement.
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement.
Both felony’s.
Whose money is paying for this debacle ?
It better not be taxpayer money being wasted on a stunt like this.


You have missed the central issue in this matter: "The radical leftist elites of the Martha's Vineyard incident welcome all illegal aliens to anywhere in the nation, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT THEIR ISLAND. This is the modern Democratic ideology in a nutshell"

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Sep 19, 2022 06:36:40   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Felony kidnapping by inveiglement.
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement.
Both felony’s.
Whose money is paying for this debacle ?
It better not be taxpayer money being wasted on a stunt like this.


"Indeed, kidnapping “is a thing,” just not this thing.

As noted in a column this weekend, this claim was also made by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

It is legally absurd.

Kidnapping requires that the culprit “unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or otherwise any person.” There is nothing unlawful in conveying individuals who are lawfully in the country pending their immigration hearings; the trips are voluntary, and most migrants appear eager to accept free passage to cities like New York or Chicago." Jonathan Turley

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kidnapping-thing-msnbc-continues-false-claim-desantis-kidnapping-migrants

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Sep 19, 2022 06:51:00   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
You have missed the central issue in this matter: "The radical leftist elites of the Martha's Vineyard incident welcome all illegal aliens to anywhere in the nation, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT THEIR ISLAND. This is the modern Democratic ideology in a nutshell"


What the 2 governors are doing is illegal.
You seem to be missing the point.
Taking the Law into your own hands is illegal.
Spending taxpayer money on frivolous stunts as these are not helping the problem.
And also illegal.
Kidnapping by inveiglement is illegal .
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement also illegal.
Not to mention the cruelty and treatment of legal law abiding asylum seekers who are here legally. Most of them have court dates that have now been disrupted due to this inhumane treatment by ……yep …..republitarians.

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Sep 19, 2022 06:58:30   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Indeed, kidnapping “is a thing,” just not this thing.

As noted in a column this weekend, this claim was also made by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

It is legally absurd.

Kidnapping requires that the culprit “unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or otherwise any person.” There is nothing unlawful in conveying individuals who are lawfully in the country pending their immigration hearings; the trips are voluntary, and most migrants appear eager to accept free passage to cities like New York or Chicago." Jonathan Turley

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kidnapping-thing-msnbc-continues-false-claim-desantis-kidnapping-migrants
" b Indeed, kidnapping “is a thing,” just not... (show quote)


**Kidnapping requires that the culprit “unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or otherwise any person.” ***

——Inveigles——-!
Unlawful Detainment a felony.
Legal asylum seekers. Now with disrupted court dates.
Not you or anyone else has right to send anyone anywhere.
This goes all the way back to the Magna Carta.
No one person has any rights over another person.

Besides this, we have plenty of states that lack the population for their present
Political Representation.
Wyoming gets 2 senators with a population of 657 .
California gets 2 senators with a population of 9million.
Doesn’t seem right , does it ?

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Sep 19, 2022 18:41:13   #
teabag09
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Felony kidnapping by inveiglement.
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement.
Both felony’s.
Whose money is paying for this debacle ?
It better not be taxpayer money being wasted on a stunt like this.


It's money voted on by both Dems and Reps in Florida's Congress. You'd do well to do some research before you bloviate. It might help save you from seeming so stupid, then again maybe not. Mike

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Sep 19, 2022 18:46:32   #
teabag09
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What the 2 governors are doing is illegal.
You seem to be missing the point.
Taking the Law into your own hands is illegal.
Spending taxpayer money on frivolous stunts as these are not helping the problem.
And also illegal.
Kidnapping by inveiglement is illegal .
Unlawful detainment by inveiglement also illegal.
Not to mention the cruelty and treatment of legal law abiding asylum seekers who are here legally. Most of them have court dates that have now been disrupted due to this inhumane treatment by ……yep …..republitarians.
What the 2 governors are doing is illegal. br You ... (show quote)


No, what your dumb a$$ can't comprehend is what the Governors are doing is legal ( Protecting the peoples of their States) where as what the President is doing is not only illegal but cruel and unusual. Mike

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Sep 19, 2022 18:56:01   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Two good Posts, Mike! I'm absolutely sure that Milosia is not one of those "Lucid Democrats" referred to in the original post.

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Sep 19, 2022 20:43:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
Two good Posts, Mike! I'm absolutely sure that Milosia is not one of those "Lucid Democrats" referred to in the original post.


How would you know ?

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Sep 20, 2022 05:15:25   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
How would you know ?


Quite simple really. I read your responses, and it is "self-evident".

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Sep 20, 2022 09:25:04   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
teabag09 wrote:
It's money voted on by both Dems and Reps in Florida's Congress. You'd do well to do some research before you bloviate. It might help save you from seeming so stupid, then again maybe not. Mike


Who voted on this ?

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Sep 20, 2022 09:27:27   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
Quite simple really. I read your responses, and it is "self-evident".


It was self evident when trumpy Lost the election but you got that one wrong .
Self evident can be illusive I guess.
Not quite as simple as you think.

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