Kevyn wrote:
They are not pre tax contributions, it is an investment where the returns and Capitol gains are not taxed as they are as income in a traditional IRA. This was supposed to be income limited and will again.
Neither you nor Boob have a clue how they work do you? I'LL tell you in layman's language.
Pre-tax contributions from an IRA -- typically a 401k -- are used to fund a Roth IRA. When the IRA is converted to a Roth IRA the taxes are paid on it and then the Roth IRA grows tax free.
By the way Kevie, they're capitAl gains not capitOl gains.