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Sep 1, 2022 22:26:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
WEBCO wrote:
So you don't believe that Holder was held criminally in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over subpoenaed documents? Look up the fast and furious operation. It resulted in the death of a US border patrol agent.

You don't believe that Obama and Biden both knew about Hillarys "Russian collusion" lie to cover up her email fiasco beforehand?

You don't believe that Obama used drone strikes to kill US citizens?

You don't believe Lois Lerner illegally targeted conservative groups?

You don't believe that Obama attacked a wedding in Yemen, killing many in attendance? That's the press conference he wore the tan suit to.


You don't believe that Ambassador Stevens asked over a dozen times for more security? You don't remember the lies about a you tube video being the cause?

You don't believe that Hillary Clinton destroyed over 30,000 emails, that were under subpoena, contained classified materials, and were government property?

Yet you believe that men can get pregnant, that anthropomorphic climate change is real, and the vaccine/gene therapy is both effective and safe.

Yes I am an independent. I'm also capable of critical thinking and deductive reasoning, are you? If so please show how any of my statements are not only factual but demonstrative.
So you don't believe that Holder was held criminal... (show quote)




let us ponder... fast and furious the gun selling/tracing idea from the bush days.. yes that is in the history books, if the republicans did not burn them.. so what? it was an old idea and run poorly by the ATF... what is your point??

russian collusion... now you are trying to say trump was not helped by Russia social media planting... even Putin admitted to that.. what are you trying to say??

do you not approve of drone strikes? would you like it better if attacks by special forces was done on foreign soil????

Learner targeted groups claiming tax exemption which they did not qualify for both right and left wings.. I just was that the tea party was much the greater cheater and paid a little of the price..

Now you insist you do not like killing Muslims??? You right wing jockers are the mirror image of them and hate the competition for the worlds low life..

Steven requests for more security were over weeks if not months and turned down via republican refusal to fund the security..

Those 30,000 emails were all about office procedure and all were recovered via the other end research.. not a single one was comparable to the top security secrets trump ran off with and the killing of contacts over the last year testify to the selling of this information to interested parties.. none of them good.. Hang the orange bastard!!!!

Who he heck ever told you men could get knocked up and why are you dumb enough to believe such rubbish.. do you think the world is flat??? Look out your window, that is called climate change... you did not get vaccinated and my close friends are dead you scum sucking pig..

You are an independent like the tories who fled back to king George were founding fathers.. such crap..

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Sep 1, 2022 22:38:38   #
Rose42
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is somehow their birthright.

President Obama didn’t eat, flush, burn or flat out steal classified documents during his time in office nor after he left the White House.

He also kept WH visitor logs, allowed a well organized peaceful transfer of power, did not try to take things from foreign embassies or the WH to keep on display at his home as souvenirs, didn't participate in coup plotting, didn't use burner phones......

He was never impeached, indicted or involved in any scandals. He was not Epstein's f**k buddy.

The only scandal he had was, he wore a tan suit and used Dijon mustard on his burger.

Obama is NOT a criminal and never will be.
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is some... (show quote)


Off the top of my head there was the IRS scandal, Benghazi and Fast and Furious. There were more.

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Sep 1, 2022 23:35:24   #
WEBCO
 
permafrost wrote:
let us ponder... fast and furious the gun selling/tracing idea from the bush days.. yes that is in the history books, if the republicans did not burn them.. so what? it was an old idea and run poorly by the ATF... what is your point??

russian collusion... now you are trying to say trump was not helped by Russia social media planting... even Putin admitted to that.. what are you trying to say??

do you not approve of drone strikes? would you like it better if attacks by special forces was done on foreign soil????

Learner targeted groups claiming tax exemption which they did not qualify for both right and left wings.. I just was that the tea party was much the greater cheater and paid a little of the price..

Now you insist you do not like killing Muslims??? You right wing jockers are the mirror image of them and hate the competition for the worlds low life..

Steven requests for more security were over weeks if not months and turned down via republican refusal to fund the security..

Those 30,000 emails were all about office procedure and all were recovered via the other end research.. not a single one was comparable to the top security secrets trump ran off with and the killing of contacts over the last year testify to the selling of this information to interested parties.. none of them good.. Hang the orange bastard!!!!

Who he heck ever told you men could get knocked up and why are you dumb enough to believe such rubbish.. do you think the world is flat??? Look out your window, that is called climate change... you did not get vaccinated and my close friends are dead you scum sucking pig..

You are an independent like the tories who fled back to king George were founding fathers.. such crap..
let us ponder... fast and furious the gun selling/... (show quote)


So you lie and deflect, all to remain ignorant, congratulations. Couldn't refute anything I said though.

As far as your friends dieing from covid19, I'm sorry. The fact remains that the "vaccine" is neither safe or effective. Enjoy your ignorance.

I have no problem killing any enemies of our country, did so for years. It's the regressive democrats who insist that men can get pregnant. Fast and furious was all Obama. Hillarys emails were not "all recovered" by any means. Steven's was denied extra security because it was " politically embarrassing" and believe it or not I am an independent. Have been for years, I vote for policies not a party.

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Sep 2, 2022 11:37:43   #
maureenthannon
 
What about when your MESSIAH, Obama gave weapons to Islamic TERRORIST groups in Libia, including Al Qada and ISIS? Or when he sold weapons to Mexican drug cartels in OPERATION FAST & FURIOUS; Those weapons were used to kill AMERICAN Border Patrol Agents and hundreds of Mexicans!

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Sep 2, 2022 12:34:14   #
EmilyD
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is somehow their birthright.

President Obama didn’t eat, flush, burn or flat out steal classified documents during his time in office nor after he left the White House.

He also kept WH visitor logs, allowed a well organized peaceful transfer of power, did not try to take things from foreign embassies or the WH to keep on display at his home as souvenirs, didn't participate in coup plotting, didn't use burner phones......

He was never impeached, indicted or involved in any scandals. He was not Epstein's f**k buddy.

The only scandal he had was, he wore a tan suit and used Dijon mustard on his burger.

Obama is NOT a criminal and never will be.
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is some... (show quote)

Benghazi: Obama downplayed links to the Islamic militants terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith, and two CIA operatives, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs were killed while Obama's administration.

Fast and Furious: 2000 firearms sold to smugglers to "attract" cartels.....most of which were never recovered.

The IRS scandal of 2013: The IRS disclosed that it had targeted conservative and Tea Party groups for extra scrutiny leading up to the 2012 presidential election between Obama and Romney.

AP Phone Records Scandal: The DOJ secretly obtained telephone records of reporters and editors for The AP (Associated Press) in 2012.

Keystone XL Pipeline Controversy: Obama promised to spend much of his time in the White House trying to address the causes of global warming. But when he indicated he could approve the $7.6 billion Keystone XL Pipeline to carry oil across 1,179 miles from Hardisty, Alberta, to Steele City, Nebraska, he came under heavy fire from both sides of the aisle.

PRISM Surveillance System: A super-secret computer system was used to collect emails, video clips, and pictures on major U.S. Internet company websites without a warrant. The spying was deemed unconstitutional by a federal judge during Obama's second term in office.

Obamacare: "Let's pass it so we can see what's in it".

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." But then later.... "I am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."
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Obviously Obama committed crimes....he should have been impeached.

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Sep 2, 2022 12:42:48   #
Godsncotrl
 
[quote=permafrost]Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is somehow their birthright.

President Obama didn’t eat, flush, burn or flat out steal classified documents during his time in office nor after he left the White House.

He also kept WH visitor logs, allowed a well organized peaceful transfer of power, did not try to take things from foreign embassies or the WH to keep on display at his home as souvenirs, didn't participate in coup plotting, didn't use burner phones......

He was never impeached, indicted or involved in any scandals. He was not Epstein's f**k buddy.

The only scandal he had was, he wore a tan suit and used Dijon mustard on his burger.

Obama is NOT a criminal and never just a very evil man.

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Sep 2, 2022 12:57:09   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is somehow their birthright.

President Obama didn’t eat, flush, burn or flat out steal classified documents during his time in office nor after he left the White House.

He also kept WH visitor logs, allowed a well organized peaceful transfer of power, did not try to take things from foreign embassies or the WH to keep on display at his home as souvenirs, didn't participate in coup plotting, didn't use burner phones......

He was never impeached, indicted or involved in any scandals. He was not Epstein's f**k buddy.

The only scandal he had was, he wore a tan suit and used Dijon mustard on his burger.

Obama is NOT a criminal and never will be.
Trump supporters think “False Equivalency” is some... (show quote)


He participated in a coup in Ukraine in 2014, did he not? Yes he did. Then he made Biden his Ukraine guy. From there, we all know what happened.

Ever heard of Fast and Furious and Holder being held in contempt? Ever heard of Lois Lerner and her all day hearing of nothing but taking the 5th? Ever heard of his creation called ISIS?? Ever heard of Benghazi??

Obama had scandals out the wazoo.

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Sep 2, 2022 12:57:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
Benghazi: Obama downplayed links to the Islamic militants terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith, and two CIA operatives, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs were killed while Obama's administration.

Fast and Furious: 2000 firearms sold to smugglers to "attract" cartels.....most of which were never recovered.

The IRS scandal of 2013: The IRS disclosed that it had targeted conservative and Tea Party groups for extra scrutiny leading up to the 2012 presidential election between Obama and Romney.

AP Phone Records Scandal: The DOJ secretly obtained telephone records of reporters and editors for The AP (Associated Press) in 2012.

Keystone XL Pipeline Controversy: Obama promised to spend much of his time in the White House trying to address the causes of global warming. But when he indicated he could approve the $7.6 billion Keystone XL Pipeline to carry oil across 1,179 miles from Hardisty, Alberta, to Steele City, Nebraska, he came under heavy fire from both sides of the aisle.

PRISM Surveillance System: A super-secret computer system was used to collect emails, video clips, and pictures on major U.S. Internet company websites without a warrant. The spying was deemed unconstitutional by a federal judge during Obama's second term in office.

Obamacare: "Let's pass it so we can see what's in it".

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." But then later.... "I am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."
************************************************************************

Obviously Obama committed crimes....he should have been impeached.
u i Benghazi: /i /u Obama downplayed links to ... (show quote)


Your list is much better than mine!

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Sep 2, 2022 13:06:47   #
EmilyD
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Your list is much better than mine!

No....it's just that there was a LOT of scandal during the Obama years!

Rats are very good at forgetting things that happened in the past - like how good Trump was for us!!!!

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Sep 2, 2022 13:45:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
No....it's just that there was a LOT of scandal during the Obama years!

Rats are very good at forgetting things that happened in the past - like how good Trump was for us!!!!


You have that right!!

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Sep 2, 2022 13:55:31   #
American Vet
 
EmilyD wrote:
Benghazi: Obama downplayed links to the Islamic militants terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith, and two CIA operatives, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, both former Navy SEALs were killed while Obama's administration.

Fast and Furious: 2000 firearms sold to smugglers to "attract" cartels.....most of which were never recovered.

The IRS scandal of 2013: The IRS disclosed that it had targeted conservative and Tea Party groups for extra scrutiny leading up to the 2012 presidential election between Obama and Romney.

AP Phone Records Scandal: The DOJ secretly obtained telephone records of reporters and editors for The AP (Associated Press) in 2012.

Keystone XL Pipeline Controversy: Obama promised to spend much of his time in the White House trying to address the causes of global warming. But when he indicated he could approve the $7.6 billion Keystone XL Pipeline to carry oil across 1,179 miles from Hardisty, Alberta, to Steele City, Nebraska, he came under heavy fire from both sides of the aisle.

PRISM Surveillance System: A super-secret computer system was used to collect emails, video clips, and pictures on major U.S. Internet company websites without a warrant. The spying was deemed unconstitutional by a federal judge during Obama's second term in office.

Obamacare: "Let's pass it so we can see what's in it".

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." But then later.... "I am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."
************************************************************************

Obviously Obama committed crimes....he should have been impeached.
u i Benghazi: /i /u Obama downplayed links to ... (show quote)


I have to add one comment: The MSM (Main Stream Media) was complicit in this by either ignoring or trying to spin the events in a positive way.

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Sep 2, 2022 14:52:13   #
EmilyD
 
American Vet wrote:
I have to add one comment: The MSM (Main Stream Media) was complicit in this by either ignoring or trying to spin the events in a positive way.

Yes! Look what they tried to do with January 6th!!!

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Sep 2, 2022 18:54:20   #
WEBCO
 
permafrost wrote:
let us ponder... fast and furious the gun selling/tracing idea from the bush days.. yes that is in the history books, if the republicans did not burn them.. so what? it was an old idea and run poorly by the ATF... what is your point??

russian collusion... now you are trying to say trump was not helped by Russia social media planting... even Putin admitted to that.. what are you trying to say??

do you not approve of drone strikes? would you like it better if attacks by special forces was done on foreign soil????

Learner targeted groups claiming tax exemption which they did not qualify for both right and left wings.. I just was that the tea party was much the greater cheater and paid a little of the price..

Now you insist you do not like killing Muslims??? You right wing jockers are the mirror image of them and hate the competition for the worlds low life..

Steven requests for more security were over weeks if not months and turned down via republican refusal to fund the security..

Those 30,000 emails were all about office procedure and all were recovered via the other end research.. not a single one was comparable to the top security secrets trump ran off with and the killing of contacts over the last year testify to the selling of this information to interested parties.. none of them good.. Hang the orange bastard!!!!

Who he heck ever told you men could get knocked up and why are you dumb enough to believe such rubbish.. do you think the world is flat??? Look out your window, that is called climate change... you did not get vaccinated and my close friends are dead you scum sucking pig..

You are an independent like the tories who fled back to king George were founding fathers.. such crap..
let us ponder... fast and furious the gun selling/... (show quote)


Why am I a "scum sucking pig?"

Is it because I followed the science and used my God given intelligence to conclude that the risk from the experimental gene therapy was greater than the risk of the virus, at least for myself?

Or is it because I had the Gaul to not cave to the illegal, immoral, unethical, and unconstitutional mandate?

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Sep 2, 2022 21:57:22   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Obama trying to destroy America. Wow, that's rich. How do you define Trump's actions, acting as a patriot? Lmao


He tried to make America Great Again. obama and biden are and have tried t ruin America.

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Sep 2, 2022 21:59:48   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
Only in your illogical mind.. you seem to have no idea what happens in the real world.. I think you should collect the others of you ilk and run away as fast as you can.. this country has no place and no time for the likes of you..


You are not only delusional and damn outright foolish you are also dumb as a fascist leftist socialinst democrat. And that is really dumb.

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