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Aug 29, 2022 09:41:38   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
336Robin wrote:
Let's see Republicans (just like Fascists) have stoked hatred by attacking women's rights and are using religion to do it.

You said just one, here it is.


Abortion is not a right when your mission statement is life liberty and the pursuit of happiness! We can't truly live up to that Nation statement unless we protect the sanctity of life and that starts in the womb! Unfettered abortion is not abortion it's infanticide! The sooner the left figures that out the better off they'll be! We believe that if a woman is raped or has been involved with incest then of course and abortion will be required but only! I don't want to hear anything about the woman's health either that's a no argument with me too what about the child's health no one ever speaks out for them! Know what it is now is that women are going to have to take responsibility for their own actions by starting to hold the men that they sleep with accountable for their actions as well! All I'm saying is if men can't get out of paying child support then why can women get out of not having a child! It's only fair women need to know that if they sleep around that this is going to be the direct result of their consequences and unwanted birth! You're not gonna sit here and tell me that what a woman carries for nine months that is not a clump of cells it's human! When the left finally acknowledges that then we can have a discussion on where we go from there until then no all bets are off! Oh

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Aug 29, 2022 10:20:26   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Abortion is not a right when your mission statement is life liberty and the pursuit of happiness! We can't truly live up to that Nation statement unless we protect the sanctity of life and that starts in the womb! Unfettered abortion is not abortion it's infanticide! The sooner the left figures that out the better off they'll be! We believe that if a woman is raped or has been involved with incest then of course and abortion will be required but only! I don't want to hear anything about the woman's health either that's a no argument with me too what about the child's health no one ever speaks out for them! Know what it is now is that women are going to have to take responsibility for their own actions by starting to hold the men that they sleep with accountable for their actions as well! All I'm saying is if men can't get out of paying child support then why can women get out of not having a child! It's only fair women need to know that if they sleep around that this is going to be the direct result of their consequences and unwanted birth! You're not gonna sit here and tell me that what a woman carries for nine months that is not a clump of cells it's human! When the left finally acknowledges that then we can have a discussion on where we go from there until then no all bets are off! Oh
Abortion is not a right when your mission statemen... (show quote)


You try and sell the BS you've been told.

A person autonomy included the right to make decisions over your own body.

You might think the man in the sky doesn't like it and there you shouldn't either but
religion has ruined every country on earth and some great civilizations and here it is
in middle of a fascist coup.

Personal autonomy is a right. If that means deciding to get an abortion that decision
doesn't affect you at all. It's you that want's to control other free people.
That is Fascism.

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Aug 29, 2022 10:45:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
336Robin wrote:
Let's see Republicans (just like Fascists) have stoked hatred by attacking women's rights and are using religion to do it.

You said just one, here it is.


We realize you have the attention span of a mosquito so please pay close attention. There is no "right" found anywhere, especially in the Constitution, that gives any woman the "right" to an abortion. Read, mark, learn & inwardly digest.

There is, however, a right to practice our religion. I suspect you are one who believes the Constitution says there is a wall of separation between Church & State, you'd be correct. That "wall" tells the State to keep their rump scratching fingers out of our religions.The establishment clause separates a specific religion from state, but not religion from politics or public life and Abortion is very much a religious issue.

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Aug 29, 2022 15:02:18   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
padremike wrote:
We realize you have the attention span of a mosquito so please pay close attention. There is no "right" found anywhere, especially in the Constitution, that gives any woman the "right" to an abortion. Read, mark, learn & inwardly digest.

There is, however, a right to practice our religion. I suspect you are one who believes the Constitution says there is a wall of separation between Church & State, you'd be correct. That "wall" tells the State to keep their rump scratching fingers out of our religions.The establishment clause separates a specific religion from state, but not religion from politics or public life and Abortion is very much a religious issue.
We realize you have the attention span of a mosqui... (show quote)


Of course, you'll take to mean that in politics you have every right to impose your beliefs on the rest of us.

The answer to that is maybe you can get away with it and maybe you can't. That would depend on how the people view it.

When the religious right Magafascists took on the religious mantle as a national political objective then that went much farther than just people observing their chosen religion while they were elected political leaders.

It weaponized the church against the population.

The SCOTUS allowed it simply by refusing to acknowledge close to 50 yrs of precedent in such a way that they sent the decision back to the states but they did not send it back to the states with an order that the states allow a referendum. They sent it back to the Republican held states who had already prepared trigger laws to outlaw abortion almost in total.

That is a big Fascist move that goes against the choice of the people.

You can get away with it for awhile, but not forever. People hate being ordered around and told
what to do in country where we are supposed to be free.

In short people hate Fascists whether they are MagaFascists or Christian Fascists or MagaChristian Fascists.

The Maga Movement has damaged organized religion and I wouldn't be surprised that when the Democrats
get control back that they don't do something to equalize the playing field.

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Aug 29, 2022 16:09:17   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
336Robin wrote:
You try and sell the BS you've been told.

A person autonomy included the right to make decisions over your own body.

You might think the man in the sky doesn't like it and there you shouldn't either but
religion has ruined every country on earth and some great civilizations and here it is
in middle of a fascist coup.

Personal autonomy is a right. If that means deciding to get an abortion that decision
doesn't affect you at all. It's you that want's to control other free people.
That is Fascism.
You try and sell the BS you've been told. br br A... (show quote)




Fuck her body when she's trying to kill a baby and you can sit there and deny all you want to that what a woman is carrying around for 9 months is a clump of cells you can stop fooling everybody else with that bullshit that isn't even an argument! Y'all need to explain why abortion should be legal! I've already laid out all the rules and parameters for an abortion to happen but not unfettered abortion I'm not letting a woman get a get out of jail free card because she let Tyrone run up inside her that's not my problem that's her problem and she shouldn't be allowed to abort the baby because Tyrone don't want to pay! It all boils down to women's responsibility because men don't get a say in the answer!

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Aug 29, 2022 16:44:37   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
336Robin wrote:
Of course, you'll take to mean that in politics you have every right to impose your beliefs on the rest of us.

The answer to that is maybe you can get away with it and maybe you can't. That would depend on how the people view it.

When the religious right Magafascists took on the religious mantle as a national political objective then that went much farther than just people observing their chosen religion while they were elected political leaders.

It weaponized the church against the population.

The SCOTUS allowed it simply by refusing to acknowledge close to 50 yrs of precedent in such a way that they sent the decision back to the states but they did not send it back to the states with an order that the states allow a referendum. They sent it back to the Republican held states who had already prepared trigger laws to outlaw abortion almost in total.

That is a big Fascist move that goes against the choice of the people.

You can get away with it for awhile, but not forever. People hate being ordered around and told
what to do in country where we are supposed to be free.

In short people hate Fascists whether they are MagaFascists or Christian Fascists or MagaChristian Fascists.

The Maga Movement has damaged organized religion and I wouldn't be surprised that when the Democrats
get control back that they don't do something to equalize the playing field.
Of course, you'll take to mean that in politics yo... (show quote)


Standing up for our faith is not imposing it on anyone. Chip that in stone if you must. In fact, Christians are not allowed to force their faith on anyone; it must always be a free will choice, no exceptions. On the other hand, you consciously immoral Leftists have force fed the acceptance of the LGBTQ agenda & sexual perversions, the right to murder infants and the right to riot when you don't get your evil ways. How many Christian riots have you witnessed in your lifetime? Your force fed agenda has seeped into and perverted our churches. The majority of mainline churches have acceded to the LGBTQ agenda & now both marry & ordain homosexuals. Clearly deviant sex became more important than the Faith. Not to all of us though.

Consider your own position on Abortion. You believed the lie, the lie that "Making America Great Again" stopped what you believe is a woman's RIGHT to murder her innocent child. (That thought is certainly cringeworthy) There was NEVER a right granted to women to kill their child. Do you understand this? There was a right to "privacy" SCOTUS found secreted somewhere in the Constitution that gave women a right to privacy. That was only an excuse to turn their heads away & allow your satanic demands to succeed and for lawmakers to relax the pressure. (SCOTUS knew is was bad law & policy.) Then SCOTUS did the same to marriage, long before they had already legitimized pornography.
it's always something to promote sexual immorality that's most important to your mob. Why is that?

Those you admire destroy the sanctity of life, traditional marriage & the nuclear family; our future & our very foundation. The very things all Churches once supported & Christians still do.

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Aug 29, 2022 16:53:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
336Robin wrote:
Let's see Republicans (just like Fascists) have stoked hatred by attacking women's rights and are using religion to do it.

You said just one, here it is.
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Biden and Democrats Go Full Fascist – 2021 is ‘The Era of the Fake Crisis’
JOE BIDEN’S FASCIST FOLLIES CONTINUE
Joe Biden Is a Fascist by His Own Definition

Too Bad for Slow Joe: The Fallout Continues for Biden Following His Recent “Semi-Fascist” Remark
During a sorry attempt at a recent speech in which Biden made little sense and even fewer good points, our senile commander in chief decided to label those MAGA Republicans that voted for Donald Trump a gang of “semi-fascists”.

What does “semi-fascist” mean? Who knows. His press secretary certainly had no idea what he meant and had no good answer when asked about the comment by CNN’s Don Lemon.

But Biden’s sticking to the comment, of course. Some PR person must have told him it was a winner of a remark. But even he, the one who made the remark, might not be able to explain it, as was shown during a recent comment to a reporter, who asked him “What do you mean by semi-fascism, sir?”

Biden, like his dimwitted press secretary, had no good answer and just said “You know what I mean” in response to the reporter, leaving all of us scratching our heads and wondering if he even knows was he meant by “semi-fascism.”

Well, as he scratches his head and tries to figure out what his speech meant, much of the GOP is furious about what they see as Biden’s rendition of Hillary’s infamous “basket of deplorables” comment.



Does The Definition Of ‘Fascism’ Apply To The Biden Administration?

By: Ben Carson

Here is a challenge: Define fascism without reference to a historical event or proper noun.

It’s harder than it seems. Most people associate fascism with European dictatorships of the 1920s and ’30s. That is with good reason: those were the first fascist regimes.

The term itself originated in Italy to describe the political philosophy of Benito Mussolini, who borrowed from the Italian word fascio, literally meaning “bundle” (usually of rods or sticks). Mussolini used the term to mean a group of people who are stronger together than individually, such as how a bundle of sticks bound together is much more difficult to snap than any individual stick.

While most fascist regimes had racial or nationalist elements, it was not racism or nationalism that defined them; there have been plenty of racist or nationalist governing structures that do not merit the label “fascism.” Rather, the necessary ingredient for fascism is the state’s total domination of all aspects of life, including economic life.

Mussolini defined “fascism” as “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.” Consistent with this, the American Heritage Dictionary includes in its definition of fascism “a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls.” By hook or by crook, and many times using violence, a fascist government will brook no dissent and will enlist all of the country’s institutions to further its ends.

During the Trump administration, the left took every opportunity to falsely claim that fascism was descending upon the land. But anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear knew those claims were outlandish.

There was plenty “outside the State” and “against the State” during the Trump administration (he is still banned on all major social media platforms, for example) and plenty of dissent. There were plenty of institutions that explicitly declared themselves in opposition to the aims of the government.
Nothing Outside of or Against the Regime

Fully cognizant of George Orwell’s quip that “Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable,’” I am becoming concerned that what many claimed to be happening under the Trump administration is becoming reality under the Biden administration.

I do not make that statement lightly. But events over the past several weeks suggest that the Biden administration, in concert with powerful American institutions, is working to ensure that there is nothing outside of or against the official government line.

Last month White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki admitted the administration works closely with Facebook and other social media companies to identify posts it deems objectionable. While Psaki claimed the White House does not “take anything down” or “block anything,” there would be no reason for the White House to point out these statements if not in the hope of social media platforms taking action against posts contrary to the government’s preferred narrative.

Also, more news continues to come out about how the Biden administration is coordinating with private businesses to further its agenda. According to Politico, the White House is “back channeling” with various media organizations about COVID coverage, particularly arguing that the media’s focus on breakthrough infections of people who have already been vaccinated undermines the administration’s efforts to get more people vaccinated. Relatedly, the New York Times has reported the administration “continues to pressure private companies to introduce coronavirus vaccine mandates to help the U.S. raise its inoculation rates.”
Using Private Businesses to Implement Policy

Regardless of what anyone thinks of the wisdom of the administration’s policies, it should be concerning to all to have the White House directly involved in the operations of private companies. This is especially true when the White House’s focus is on heavily regulated companies, such as broadcast networks. Those are the companies least likely to be able to resist government requests, which always carry the implicit terms of, “Nice business you got there; it would be a shame if anything happened to it.”

It is all the more troubling that the White House is leaning on private companies to do that which the federal government cannot do itself, namely censoring individuals from expressing opinions contrary to the government’s preferred message, and mandating that everyone in America take a certain medicine. This should concern everyone because once you have endorsed the idea that the federal government can and should use private businesses as a tool to implement policy it cannot establish through legal means, there is no limiting principle. Should the government “pressure private companies” to not hire women who have had abortions? Not hire anyone who supported Trump?

It is not enough to claim the administration is doing this only in response to the COVID emergency. Washington is full of programs that were instituted in response to an “emergency” that has well since passed. This fusion of government goals and private action will just find a new problem to solve. Today it is COVID. Tomorrow it will be climate change or systemic racism.

You do not need to take my word for it: in just the past few days the administration announced “goals” for the adoption of electric vehicles in the United States (why it is the federal government’s business to set “goals” for consumer behavior was left unsaid). Standing there right behind the administration were the largest automakers in the country, cheering on the policy so long as there were sufficient government-funded “investments” and “consumer incentives” (read: subsidies). This hand-in-glove cooperation between big government and big business is exactly the kind of “corporatism” that was an essential feature of fascist states of the past.

Erasing the line between government and private enterprise. Ensuring only government-approved messages are heard. Squashing dissent. Intruding government into every aspect of our lives. The Biden administration’s actions are nothing less than creeping fascism.

I pray that the administration, and the American people, recognize this and change course before it is too late.



Article IV, Section 4, US Constitution
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union
a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them
against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature,
or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened),
against Domestic violence.



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Aug 29, 2022 16:56:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Seriously, all this blathering on about loving and supporting trump being the same as loving and supporting your country, being a patriot...

All the while doing everything possible to destroy democracy and the government.

American leftists are wicked people, I mean, truly wicked people.
Beyond redemption, they are America's Merchants of Hate,

They have no morals, no ethics, no principles, no compassion;
They are incapable of discriminate thought or objective reasoning,
they are just servile, embittered and sulking minions of Hate.

The Marxian Collective that dethrones God and destroys capitalism,
hates Donald Trump and all those who support him;
yet have no love for Joe Biden and all those who support him.
Ignorance and Hypocrisy are the two sides of their coin.

Democrats throughout the country show they truly hate the United States
The Democrat Party is America’s Most Powerful Hate Group
Democrats Really Are the Worst People on the Planet

1865, Mumbai, India, Kipling was prescient, he saw the hate merchants coming,
he called them The Gods Of The Copybook Headings

As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market-Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall.
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn.
That water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision, and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorilas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market-Place;
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch.
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch.
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings.
So we worshiped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promiced perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'Stick to the Devil you know.'

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbor and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'The Wages of Sin is Death'.

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selective Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'If you don't work you die.'

The the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew,
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four---
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man---
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:---
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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Aug 31, 2022 02:27:34   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
336Robin wrote:
Let's see Republicans (just like Fascists) have stoked hatred by attacking women's rights and are using religion to do it.

You said just one, here it is.


***Let's see Republicans (just like Fascists) have stoked hatred by attacking women's rights and are using religion to do it.
>>>Totally false premise.

First, Republicans are nothing like facists. That is a false allegation of democrats and leftists trying to damage Republican's image with false lies. And of course you are either not smart enough to realize it of just pumping the false lies as usual to back your false beliefs. It is democrats who use Nazi tactics and support their principals.

Second, is is democrats and leftists that are stoking hatred and getting it directed towards Republicans with their false bull shit about hating women and taking away their right to determine what is best for their bodies. That is something they are supposed to do before they have sex that results in getting pregnant. The means to do that are many. While some religions might believe the same things in that regard, it is still a common sense thing and a rational thing to not want to kill a developing baby. What you people can't seen to understand is that we actually believe that abortion is akin to murder. There are places were killing a pregnant woman can get you charged with two murders. What you can't seen to understand and prove differently is that their is no difference between a fertilized egg and your grandfather except the gently blended stages of development. The only difference between the unborn full term baby and the born baby, is that the mother is no longer feeding the baby through the umbilical cord instead of her tit, and protecting and keeping the baby warm and safe within the womb instead of in a warmly held warm blanket. Women have been given this wonderful privilege of carrying these babies and carrying out this wonderful process of reproduction, and should embrace the opportunity, not decide to kill it off so it won't hurt her career of ruin things for next Friday night.

Logically Right

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Aug 31, 2022 02:55:06   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
I have since read all of these rebuttals to robin and know fully well that robin is someone who can never be convinced of the truth. Too unalterably brain washed. The facts are there. Robin can't conceive of truly believing that abortion is wrong, even without religion. But offers nothing more then a womans convenience over anything else. All while never acknowledging that there are two lives at stake, not just the woman's.

Then she throws around fascism, using it as the cheap democrat slur it has become without any real understanding of what fascism really is. Look at biden and the democrats that still support him. That and their goals would be the real fascists, and he and those that are pulling his strings are the real second coming of HITLER.

Logically Right

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Sep 3, 2022 15:44:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
Seriously, all this blathering on about loving and supporting trump being the same as loving and supporting your country, being a patriot...

All the while doing everything possible to destroy democracy and the government.


When you claim Conservatives are doing everything to destroy your preferred lynch mob style of government, AKA the "Democracy" - where a majority always rules, you're just touting empty rehearsed & regurgitated rhetoric. There is no substance behind them. They're simply empty, full of hot air & venomous words. You don't even have a legitimate "INSURRECTION." What you have is an unarmed protest mob supplemented with an intentional controlling illegitimate word, "insurrection" designed to help produce enough spittal to run down your Pavlonian chins.

However,

Let's examine you own Leftists accomplishments and see who is actually destroying our "Republic."

For example:

You've gained total control of schools & universities and use them as transmission belts for socialism. You teach an appealing vanilla Marxism without the hundred million deaths.

You use technical decisions of stacked courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their actions violate civil rights. Youve created generation after generation of useless virulent social justice warriors to continually agitate & divide. America, in Truth, is the most anti-racist nation in the world yet you've created an imaginary racist monster out of your own emotional immaturity. Your pandering has done great harm to our Black citizens.

You've infiltrated the American press and gained key control of radio, TV, movies & social media. They're now the propaganda arm of the despotic Democrat Party.

You eliminated laws governing obscenity claiming they violate free speech and in doing so have broken down cultural standards of morality. Kids on Tic Toc are unable to express them selves forcefully without using an F-bomb.

Youve successfully presented homosexuality, degeneracy & promiscuity as normal natural & healthy. It is not & it is not an expression of sincere & genuine love. Sincere & genuine love cares for the soul of a beloved. It does not engage in mutual sin. You've invented a mantra to obscure Christian teachings on Godly love. You say, "There's no hate like Christian love." Leftists drink that poison like it's mother's milk

You've infiltrated Churches & replaced revealed & sacred religion with a secular social religion, discredited scripture & emphasize "intellectual maturity" which does not need "a religious crutch." So tell me, why are we now a very sick society that require drugs & counseling to cope?

You successfully eliminated prayer, or any phrase of religious expression, in school as a violation of Church & State & replaced prayer with the forced teaching of deviant sexuality to children. You bastards. You hate children. If you can't kill them in the womb you'll destroy their minds & kill their souls.

You discredited our Founders. Under the Left's tutelage they're now selfish, slave owning aristocrats who had no concern for the common man.

You've discredited traditional marriage & family. You promote abortion, promiscuity & easy divorce. Faith & family are foundational to our Republic's continuation.

You've discredited the American Constitution as being out of touch, old fashioned for today's modern needs.

You will dismiss all the above comments with a single favorite catch-all word, "tolerance." Oh yes, you preach tolerance but only to promote that which previously throughout our entire history are issues & behaviors always understood to be intolerable.

You Leftist, you neo-Marxist Progressives (Democrats) are the enemy of our "Representative Democratic Republic" not MAGA. You have reached the very worst state any human can obtain, you call that which is evil good & that which is good, you call evil. It is almost impossible to turn this around.

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Sep 3, 2022 15:51:24   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
336Robin wrote:
When this is over. They will have paid the price politically. They have pissed women off for
starters and you really can't do that.


We have not "pissed off women." SCOTUS has exposed visceral & loud killers of the most innocent of all humanity.

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