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Aug 26, 2022 14:28:10   #
WEBCO
 
permafrost wrote:
You no doubt can have Fox lies vouch for that information... poor you...


Leftist logic...tax cut for people vs. tax increase for everyone

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Aug 26, 2022 15:33:05   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
When Trump left the White House every piece paper was gone over with many higher up people before releasing them to Trump . Trump did not take NO paperwork with him being Classified materials.

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Aug 26, 2022 15:43:26   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Holdenbeach4u wrote:
When Trump left the White House every piece paper was gone over with many higher up people before releasing them to Trump . Trump did not take NO paperwork with him being Classified materials.
What if did admit to unlawfully taking taking secret stuff to sell? Would you still support him.

Are you loyal to Trump or are you loyal to the USA?

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Aug 26, 2022 17:41:47   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
What if did admit to unlawfully taking taking secret stuff to sell? Would you still support him.

Are you loyal to Trump or are you loyal to the USA?


The Demorat party is certainly not loyal to the US so why do you support that corrupt as hell marxist party of nothing but bs?

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Aug 26, 2022 17:48:55   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
The Demorat party is certainly not loyal to the US so why do you support that corrupt as hell marxist party of nothing but bs?
I do not support the democrats. But the democrats are not who is under investigation for espionage right now.

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Aug 26, 2022 18:04:45   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I coined it for financial scammers. I use risk adverse when I am tying up scammers on social media. I am using Instagram right now. When I say I am risk adverse they need to take more time to convince me to trust them. All the time they are talking to me is time they are not talking to a venerable senior. Scams are profitable or they would not exist.


Now THAT is a useful public service. Thanks for contributing!

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Aug 26, 2022 18:12:50   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
What if did admit to unlawfully taking taking secret stuff to sell? Would you still support him.

Are you loyal to Trump or are you loyal to the USA?


What if Biden admits to getting rich off selling access through Hunter to Ukraine and China? Would YOU still support the Democrats?
This hypothetical crap you come up with is getting really old. You are apparently under the delusion that we are such followers that we will idolize Trump no matter what he says or does. It is not true. We are NOT Democrats. If Trump is credibly shown to have committed criminal acts, then prosecute him with our blessings. We just don't think you will ever be able to prove such. We'll see. The Democrats are surely spending enough time and money looking for and creating evidence.

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Aug 26, 2022 19:39:34   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I do not support the democrats. But the democrats are not who is under investigation for espionage right now.


They should be as should about 50% of the criminal dems.

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Aug 26, 2022 19:46:52   #
BIRDMAN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
What if did admit to unlawfully taking taking secret stuff to sell? Would you still support him.

Are you loyal to Trump or are you loyal to the USA?


How would he sell it what he put on a disguise so nobody would recognize him

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Aug 26, 2022 20:53:58   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
You no doubt can have Fox lies vouch for that information... poor you...


I don't watch TV. But if you did, you might learn something.

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Aug 26, 2022 21:11:05   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump ‘supporters’’, I'm curious about your disconnect.

You were outraged when Manning was released.

You celebrated when Trump canceled the Iran multilateral agreement bc USA's enemies were purportedly building a nuclear arsenal.

Before continuing down this path, take notice: Trump never had presidential authority to declassify any TS/SCI document. No president has that authority, ever.

This TS/SCI designation, aka “above top-secret,” protects the entire United States — meaning you, your states, your churches, everything you know — from being WIPED OFF THE FKING PLANET.

And now you're threatening violence because Trump, who sneaked out of the White House a large batch of top-secret and above top-secret docs related to the U.S. NUCLEAR WEAPONS program. He lied to the U.S. Government for 1.5 years about having those top-secret docs. Rather than turn them over, Trump attempted to extort the U.S. government, trying to dictate the terms of his surrender of those docs. DOJ met with Trump in June and shared the federal law with him, placing Trump back on notice about securing the documents. In July, Trump had his attorney, who should be disbarred and charged with conspiracy to commit espionage, send a letter to the DOJ stating Trump had no classified docs, which was a LIE.

DOJ was informed that not only did Trump not secure the documents, Trump was allowing them to be moved and or reviewed, possibly duplicated. YOUR national security defense. YOUR nuclear weapons program.

Discontinue — STOP! — making crap up. The above is the TRUTH, and threatening BS online is not anonymous. You're going to learn, soon, that the information Trump took, he actually stole, and you're going to be terrified by it. Trump knew he had no right to the documents he took, he knew the law, and he had counsel screaming it at him his entire term. People need to think long and hard before putting that back into office because, if he took TS/SCI

Trump just spins that lying, uncouth disgusting mind of his until he thinks people believe his BS. *No one* with an intact mind believes a word of what Trump says.

Obama has millions of documents, sure. They are exactly where they need to be: at NARA - pursuant to United States LAW.

And ask yourselves, if Trump allowed those documents to circulate, who did he circulate them to? Who learned about our national defense? You need to answer those questions, because this is really as bad as analysts are telling you it is.
Trump ‘supporters’’, I'm curious about your discon... (show quote)


All of your hullaballoo over a bunch of Crossfire Hurricane documents that were officially declassified on January 19, 2021, that the GAO packed and sent to Mar-a-Lago by mistake along with letters, personal items and other documents that Trump previously had the authority to declassify. The NA got 15 of the 27 requested boxes in February of this year. Much communication and cooperation between Trump, his lawyers and the NA. If they didn't think that Trump was doing enough, they could have had the DOJ issue a subpoena. Why did they wait so long to rush in from June to August if they thought that Trump had top secret documents?

The FBI HAD to get into Mar-a Lago, take Trump's passports, and sniff Melania's panties. They were looking for something that was damaging to people in the FBI. Trump had a RICO case against Hilary and others in March. The Magistrate judge who signed the search warrant had previously recused himself from that case. Interesting developments, sadly redacted affidavit to be expected, but no proof of criminal intent or obstruction.

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Aug 26, 2022 22:17:46   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
They should be as should about 50% of the criminal dems.
You would support Trump even if he stole, they are mine, and sold that which was America’s to maintain his lavish lifestyle.

Are you an American or a Trumper?

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Aug 26, 2022 22:34:08   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump ‘supporters’’, I'm curious about your disconnect.

You were outraged when Manning was released.

You celebrated when Trump canceled the Iran multilateral agreement bc USA's enemies were purportedly building a nuclear arsenal.

Before continuing down this path, take notice: Trump never had the presidential authority to declassify any TS/SCI document. No president has that authority, ever.

This TS/SCI designation, aka “above top-secret,” protects the entire United States — meaning you, your states, your churches, everything you know — from being WIPED OFF THE FKING PLANET.

And now you're threatening violence because Trump, who sneaked out of the White House a large batch of top-secret and above top-secret docs related to the U.S. NUCLEAR WEAPONS program. He lied to the U.S. Government for 1.5 years about having those top-secret docs. Rather than turn them over, Trump attempted to extort the U.S. government, trying to dictate the terms of his surrender of those docs. DOJ met with Trump in June and shared the federal law, placing Trump back on notice about securing the documents. In July, Trump had his attorney, who should be disbarred and charged with conspiracy to commit espionage, send a letter to the DOJ stating Trump had no classified docs, which was a LIE.

DOJ was informed that not only did Trump not secure the documents, but Trump was also allowing them to be moved and or reviewed, possibly duplicated. YOUR national security defense. YOUR nuclear weapons program.

Discontinue — STOP! — making crap up. The above is the TRUTH, and threatening BS online is not anonymous. You're going to learn, soon, that the information Trump took, he stole, and you're going to be terrified by it. Trump knew he had no right to the documents he took, he knew the law, and he had counsel screaming it at him his entire term. People need to think long and hard before putting that back into office because, if he took TS/SCI

Trump just spins that lying, uncouth disgusting mind of his until he thinks people believe his BS. *No one* with an intact mind believes a word of what Trump says.

Obama has millions of documents, sure. They are where they need to be: at NARA - under United States LAW.

And ask yourselves, if Trump allowed those documents to circulate, who did he circulate them to? Who learned about our national defense? You need to answer those questions because this is as bad as analysts are telling you it is.
Trump ‘supporters’’, I'm curious about your discon... (show quote)



You need to get a life because something has caused extreme mental TDS syndrome.
Presidential Power to Declassify Information, Explained
Is the classification system enforced by criminal law?
Largely not.

For the most part, the classification system is about bureaucratic controls. The main punishment for disobedience is administrative: Officials can be admonished, lose their security clearances, and be fired.
Who has the power to classify and declassify information?
In the normal course of business, certain officials who have been designated as “original classification authorities” in federal departments and agencies can do so. They are considered to be exercising the president’s power over such matters, which have been delegated to them.

Are there formal procedures for declassifying information?
Yes. The 2009 executive order directs the head of the department or agency that originally deemed information classified to oversee declassification reviews, and it sets some standards for them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/us/politics/trump-classified-documents.html

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Aug 26, 2022 22:42:44   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
RascalRiley wrote:
You would support Trump even if he stole, they are mine, and sold that which was America’s to maintain his lavish lifestyle.

Are you an American or a Trumper?


And what are you?
No response necessary, we know.
Another infected with extreme TDS.
Most of all you are not an American citizen, only another wan-a-be.
Trump has no need to steal, he's worth a few billion.
How many Canadian Lonnies are you worth?

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Aug 26, 2022 22:50:22   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Birdmam wrote:
How would he sell it what he put on a disguise so nobody would recognize him


Foreign espionage agents have been caught at at Mara a Logo. He has credentials. A past president with access to what ever he went to keep for his.

And he could not have passed a ‘low’ level federal security job clearance. Not before or not after he made it as president.

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