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Aug 22, 2022 10:16:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Milosia2 wrote:
My intent was to enlighten a very small group of people that things have changed and are not as they were.
Perhaps they should stop calling themselves Republicans because republican ideals are no longer tenets of the party.
They have ousted the republicans and taken over the party .
The TeaParty Brought to life by none other than The Koch Brothers .
A Libertarian against everything.
They have used various deceptions to accomplish as much as they have.
By first Republicanizing all of the smaller population states. Giving them an edge because each state gets 2 Senators.
Regardless of population.
California has a population higher than all of the flyover states combined.
So, the 50 republicans in the senate represent 47 Million less people than the 50 Dems. Lopsided for sure. And should be updated. They also started the
American Legislative Exchange Council
-ALEC- a group who writes laws for these same republicanized red states. The bills are then voted on and put into law in these states. Kansas was the initial target before going nationwide. What happened to
Kansas ?
And platform Changes.
The republicans today have no platform.
They’re afraid to say what their platform really is.
Trump lied in 2016 . By taking the Progressive Platform and calling it his own.
And won with the Progressives Platform , word for word .
Lies all lies.
Got into office, flipped you all the bird.
Back into the Koch libertarian platform .
My intent was to enlighten a very small group of p... (show quote)


Can you find any parallels there.?

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Aug 22, 2022 10:19:32   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
McConnell, Lizzard Cheney, "Dicky" Cheney, John McCain, & his "obedient, foolish daughter, Mitt ROMNEY, LISA MURKOWSKI, "Several" other "Faux Republicans"...have ruined the image of the Republican party, that took
centuries to build!

So much for the "failure", at draining the swamp!

Bring Trump back, initiate many Grand Juries, & let the Republicans re-establish patriotism, sanity, God, & Country, & family values ....or...[ JUST GO HOME ]....& wait for the "end"! , , , ,
McConnell, Lizzard Cheney, "Dicky" Chene... (show quote)


Nope !
False justification.

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Aug 22, 2022 10:46:06   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
My intent was to enlighten a very small group of people that things have changed and are not as they were.
Perhaps they should stop calling themselves Republicans because republican ideals are no longer tenets of the party.
They have ousted the republicans and taken over the party .
The TeaParty Brought to life by none other than The Koch Brothers .
A Libertarian against everything.
They have used various deceptions to accomplish as much as they have.
By first Republicanizing all of the smaller population states. Giving them an edge because each state gets 2 Senators.
Regardless of population.
California has a population higher than all of the flyover states combined.
So, the 50 republicans in the senate represent 47 Million less people than the 50 Dems. Lopsided for sure. And should be updated. They also started the
American Legislative Exchange Council
-ALEC- a group who writes laws for these same republicanized red states. The bills are then voted on and put into law in these states. Kansas was the initial target before going nationwide. What happened to
Kansas ?
And platform Changes.
The republicans today have no platform.
They’re afraid to say what their platform really is.
Trump lied in 2016 . By taking the Progressive Platform and calling it his own.
And won with the Progressives Platform , word for word .
Lies all lies.
Got into office, flipped you all the bird.
Back into the Koch libertarian platform .
My intent was to enlighten a very small group of p... (show quote)

Thanks for the response. As I mentioned party platforms change and I gave the reasons for that change. No different now than it’s ever been. The Democrat Party platform has changed as much if not more in the past few decades. Platforms are dynamic for the reasons I mentioned. Both parties brand themselves. If the brand doesn’t sell, the party is short lived. You obviously disagree with the Republican Party rebranding. I understand that. There’s obviously a large portion of the population that disagrees with you. Politics as usual. As far as representation is concerned; the Founders were clear and sound in their reasoning when establishing the Republic and the election of our representatives and the number. You may disagree with that as well, it’s your right.

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Aug 22, 2022 13:10:01   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
JR-57 wrote:
Thanks for the response. As I mentioned party platforms change and I gave the reasons for that change. No different now than it’s ever been. The Democrat Party platform has changed as much if not more in the past few decades. Platforms are dynamic for the reasons I mentioned. Both parties brand themselves. If the brand doesn’t sell, the party is short lived. You obviously disagree with the Republican Party rebranding. I understand that. There’s obviously a large portion of the population that disagrees with you. Politics as usual. As far as representation is concerned; the Founders were clear and sound in their reasoning when establishing the Republic and the election of our representatives and the number. You may disagree with that as well, it’s your right.
Thanks for the response. As I mentioned party plat... (show quote)


While I do agree .
Here are a couple more things about party platforms. Since 1980 the right has been on a quest to drag the center more to the right.
The Koch’s gave Reagan a pile of money to start instituting their libertarian platforms.
This has continued for over 40 years.
They did it. To be a moderate today means you’re standing on ground previously occupied by the right. The more right they go , the more the left moves away from the center to more to the right.
So , today we two party’s who have moved the goal posts away from where we were.
The Left taken a progressive program to maintain their ideals. Not so much because they are progressive but because the moderates are so far right.
The progressives are merely the same place the party was before it all got moved.
The right , however has only continued its quest to go more right. Hence , the Hitler and Nazi inferences.
The right is against union organizing, fair wages , womens rights , democracy , I can go on and on, but you know.
I’ll ask you , aside from taking power away from the people , favoring rich and powerful and corporations as in Citizens United
What is the right trying to accomplish ?
Please do not allude to patriotic intent , that bus left.
What does the so called Republican Party want ???
What is in their platform?
And of course , where do youz fit into it ?

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Aug 22, 2022 13:19:32   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Eric Trump: Republican Party Is Now the Trump Party


Eric Trump has said that the GOP is the party of his father, following Representative Liz Cheney's resounding primary defeat in Wyoming.

Eric Trump at the LIV Golf Invitational - Bedminster at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster on July 30, 2022 in Bedminster, New Jersey.
Eric Trump at the LIV Golf Invitational - Bedminster at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster on July 30, 2022 in Bedminster, New Jersey.
Analyzing the aftermath of Cheney's defeat to Harriet Hageman, Eric Trump touted the influence that his father had on the GOP.

Hageman benefited from the former president's backing, which followed Cheney's condemnation of Donald Trump and her role in investigating the riot at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

Following the result in which Hageman took at least 66.3 percent of the vote, to Cheney's 28.9 percent, the former president's second eldest son was asked on conservative channel Newsmax whether the Republican Party was now the "party of Trump."

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"There's no question. I mean, it's not even the Republican Party. I'd say it's actually the Trump party," he said on Wednesday.

He praised his father's endorsement rate which he said was "incredible." According to Ballotpedia, ex-President Trump has had a 92 percent success rate in 2022—or 183-17—in endorsing primary candidates. This was lower than the figure Eric Trump gave Newsmax of "176 to six."

"Most of the time, endorsements are worth absolutely nothing. No one cares about endorsements," Eric Trump said, describing how his father had brought in Latino and Black voters.

"My father has literally brought in a whole new party from the RINO [Republican in name only] class of the Republican Party," he said.

"He literally brought in a whole new party that stands for something totally different than the wider class of the Republican Party ever stood for," he said. "My father's really redefined what the party is, how the party speaks to its constituents and I think it's exactly why you have this overwhelming support in all of the people he's endorsed."

Some experts agreed that the former president has influence in the GOP as he purges it of dissenters like Cheney and others who have defied him, ahead of the midterm elections in November.

"There's no doubt that the GOP remains thoroughly Trumpified, and supporting Trump and at least giving lip service to the 'Big Lie' have become litmus tests for Republicans making serious bids for state and local office," said founding director of University College London's Centre on U.S. Politics, Thomas Gift.

"If there's one lesson from Cheney's lopsided defeat, it's how difficult it is to run as a Republican who doesn't embrace the former president with the level of toadying fealty he expects," he told Newsweek.

"Even candidates who don't win Trump's coveted endorsement continue to throw everything but the kitchen sink at voters in an effort to prove they're in Trump's good graces," he said. "That proves how much sway Trump continues to exert over the party."

Of the 10 House Republicans including Cheney who voted to impeach Trump for inciting the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection, only two remain candidates for re-election. The others have bowed out or have lost to Trump-backed challengers.

"It's just a party of Donald Trump's fever dreams," Mark Salter, a former Republican aide to the late Sen. John McCain told the Associated Press. "It's just Donald Trump's club."

The anti-Trump political action committee (PAC), Lincoln Project, said that Cheney's defeat marked "the end of the Republican Party."

"What remains shares the name and branding of the traditional GOP, but is in fact an authoritarian nationalist cult dedicated only to Donald Trump."

Columnist and author Brian J. Karem tweeted: "There is no GOP any more. Just Trump and those modeled after him, many of whom are ready to fight for control of the party once Trump leaves."
Eric Trump: Republican Party Is Now the Trump Part... (show quote)


Good I'm ready to get rid of the old GOP they need to go bye bye they're no worse than the Democrats why do I say this because it's the elite and our party that always end up voting with the Elites in the Democratic party especially whenever there's a big spending bill! Yep McConnell and Lindsey Graham haven't met a spending bill yet that they couldn't vote no for!

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Aug 22, 2022 13:29:58   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Good I'm ready to get rid of the old GOP they need to go bye bye they're no worse than the Democrats why do I say this because it's the elite and our party that always end up voting with the Elites in the Democratic party especially whenever there's a big spending bill! Yep McConnell and Lindsey Graham haven't met a spending bill yet that they couldn't vote no for!


Don’t you think these bills are needed ?
If your pals the Rich won’t pay for any infrastructure who will , or should ?

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Aug 22, 2022 14:44:29   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
While I do agree .
Here are a couple more things about party platforms. Since 1980 the right has been on a quest to drag the center more to the right.
The Koch’s gave Reagan a pile of money to start instituting their libertarian platforms.
This has continued for over 40 years.
They did it. To be a moderate today means you’re standing on ground previously occupied by the right. The more right they go , the more the left moves away from the center to more to the right.
So , today we two party’s who have moved the goal posts away from where we were.
The Left taken a progressive program to maintain their ideals. Not so much because they are progressive but because the moderates are so far right.
The progressives are merely the same place the party was before it all got moved.
The right , however has only continued its quest to go more right. Hence , the Hitler and Nazi inferences.
The right is against union organizing, fair wages , womens rights , democracy , I can go on and on, but you know.
I’ll ask you , aside from taking power away from the people , favoring rich and powerful and corporations as in Citizens United
What is the right trying to accomplish ?
Please do not allude to patriotic intent , that bus left.
What does the so called Republican Party want ???
What is in their platform?
And of course , where do youz fit into it ?
While I do agree . br Here are a couple more thing... (show quote)

We have very different perspectives. I could argue the Democrat Party has swayed far more to the left, especially in the last 20+ years and especially within the past 10 years. I’m not going to defend the Republican Party, they’ve floundered for years, thus the emergence of Trump. Conservative voters were starved for a candidate with many of the values he stands for. Let’s not go down the bash Trump road. As you know, I’m not a fan. I also won’t buy into the Democrat Party is for the middle class and minorities. Their actions and accomplishments over the past 60 years tells a much different story. You mentioned the Kochs. Not much different than Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, et al from my perspective. You could say we have the best politicians money can buy. Both parties have their share of corruption. Neither are representing the American people as a whole. Both parties are self serving and neither agenda is in the best interest of this country and it’s founding principles. The federal government is far too large and beyond control regardless which party holds office.

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Aug 22, 2022 16:04:20   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
JR-57 wrote:
We have very different perspectives. I could argue the Democrat Party has swayed far more to the left, especially in the last 20+ years and especially within the past 10 years. I’m not going to defend the Republican Party, they’ve floundered for years, thus the emergence of Trump. Conservative voters were starved for a candidate with many of the values he stands for. Let’s not go down the bash Trump road. As you know, I’m not a fan. I also won’t buy into the Democrat Party is for the middle class and minorities. Their actions and accomplishments over the past 60 years tells a much different story. You mentioned the Kochs. Not much different than Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, et al from my perspective. You could say we have the best politicians money can buy. Both parties have their share of corruption. Neither are representing the American people as a whole. Both parties are self serving and neither agenda is in the best interest of this country and it’s founding principles. The federal government is far too large and beyond control regardless which party holds office.
We have very different perspectives. I could argu... (show quote)


Very accurate information.

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Aug 22, 2022 17:48:09   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Don’t you think these bills are needed ?
If your pals the Rich won’t pay for any infrastructure who will , or should ?




No they're not needed. The rich serves the Democrat Party today! That's why we have state taxes! I'm ready to abolish the IRS and the 16th amendment! The 16th amendment gave Congress the power to tax!

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Aug 22, 2022 18:08:28   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
JR-57 wrote:
We have very different perspectives. I could argue the Democrat Party has swayed far more to the left, especially in the last 20+ years and especially within the past 10 years. I’m not going to defend the Republican Party, they’ve floundered for years, thus the emergence of Trump. Conservative voters were starved for a candidate with many of the values he stands for. Let’s not go down the bash Trump road. As you know, I’m not a fan. I also won’t buy into the Democrat Party is for the middle class and minorities. Their actions and accomplishments over the past 60 years tells a much different story. You mentioned the Kochs. Not much different than Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, et al from my perspective. You could say we have the best politicians money can buy. Both parties have their share of corruption. Neither are representing the American people as a whole. Both parties are self serving and neither agenda is in the best interest of this country and it’s founding principles. The federal government is far too large and beyond control regardless which party holds office.
We have very different perspectives. I could argu... (show quote)


The Koch’s plan was much different than all the rest. They were on a mission to turn this country into a Libertarian haven with only rich and poor.
And no government,
As David Koch said in 1980
“ I don’t want some of it ,
I want it all”
The Koch effects are still prevalent and becoming difficult to over come.
From all the propaganda that has been swallowed by the right from Fsux Nouse.

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Aug 22, 2022 18:18:21   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
No they're not needed. The rich serves the Democrat Party today! That's why we have state taxes! I'm ready to abolish the IRS and the 16th amendment! The 16th amendment gave Congress the power to tax!


The rich does not serve the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is a working man’s party favoring organized union representation . The rich would never go for this. If you work for a living , there isn’t one good reason to vote for republicans.
They don’t believe in fair wages , or employee benefits of any kind.
They have been against Social Security since it started .
They want to kill Medicare. And have to date
Killed 40% of Medicare by giving over to Medicare advantage. Where you no longer get healthcare, only promises and bigger medical bills.

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Aug 22, 2022 18:34:47   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The rich does not serve the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is a working man’s party favoring organized union representation . The rich would never go for this. If you work for a living , there isn’t one good reason to vote for republicans.
They don’t believe in fair wages , or employee benefits of any kind.
They have been against Social Security since it started .
They want to kill Medicare. And have to date
Killed 40% of Medicare by giving over to Medicare advantage. Where you no longer get healthcare, only promises and bigger medical bills.
The rich does not serve the Democratic Party. br T... (show quote)


Really so Bill Gates,Jeff Bezos,Mark Zucker,everybody in big tech and journalism don't donate to the Democrats everyone in Academia! If you really believe that i got some ocean front property to sale you in Arizona!

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Aug 22, 2022 18:50:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Really so Bill Gates,Jeff Bezos,Mark Zucker,everybody in big tech and journalism don't donate to the Democrats everyone in Academia! If you really believe that i got some ocean front property to sale you in Arizona!


They donate for their own private reasons. Which I am sure are not the same as yours.
If you haven’t noticed it’s working out quite well for them .
The evening news just noted a National Cut in School Lunch Programs.
You gotta be ffin kidding me.
Which miserable prick could deny kids school lunches.
The overpaid worthless bunch of assholes
I say it time to close any congressional cafeterias , And only serve
Senate Bean Soup every day .
We subsidize every goddam thing grown in this country with our own taxpayer dollars. If there isn’t money for school lunches , then, there’s no money for subsidies.
These sons o bitches !!!!
Can deny a little girl a free lunch ?????
How much can this little girl eat ????
Sons o bitches !!!!
I don’t care who you are or what you believe , this is wrong on so many levels.

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Aug 22, 2022 19:06:53   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Really so Bill Gates,Jeff Bezos,Mark Zucker,everybody in big tech and journalism don't donate to the Democrats everyone in Academia! If you really believe that i got some ocean front property to sale you in Arizona!


While we’re talking about them , can you explain to me Why We Need any Billionaires in this country ?????
We don’t have money so little girls can have a school lunch but we have
Billionaires?
Could you explain that in some reasonable sense ?

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Aug 22, 2022 19:09:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
77Reaganite wrote:
No they're not needed. The rich serves the Democrat Party today! That's why we have state taxes! I'm ready to abolish the IRS and the 16th amendment! The 16th amendment gave Congress the power to tax!


Yes but you also believe trump won the last election , he so clearly lost .
So , you’re a fail on good judgement.

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