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Aug 7, 2022 16:40:00   #
CarryOn
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You probably never noticed that trumps people practically all got vetted by Russian spies. And, most got indicted for their Russian connections. One of the few things that trump remembered from his criminal training from his father was to never leave a paper trail, no e mail, no voice mail, and pardon those who can implicate you.


... "trumps people practically all got vetted by Russian spies." How many exactly? Who exactly? Which Russian spies "vetted" them? In what way were they vetted? What is the breakdown of those who (you say) were indicted for Russian connections and those who were indicted for things like tax evasion or financial crimes (IOW details of how you come to the conclusion of "most")? And who brought this information (i.e. proof) to the investigators?

How would you have any idea what trump did or did not remember from his father? Is there clear and convincing evidence that there was any "criminal training" involved or is this just another one of those "throw out some new innuendo and see if it sticks" kind of comment (i.e. the usual)? And how could he have learned to "pardon those who can implicate you" from a man who was long dead before President Trump became President and had the authority to do so?

You're just throwing shit at the wall hoping some of it will stick.

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Aug 7, 2022 17:11:05   #
moldyoldy
 
CarryOn wrote:
... "trumps people practically all got vetted by Russian spies." How many exactly? Who exactly? Which Russian spies "vetted" them? In what way were they vetted? What is the breakdown of those who (you say) were indicted for Russian connections and those who were indicted for things like tax evasion or financial crimes (IOW details of how you come to the conclusion of "most")? And who brought this information (i.e. proof) to the investigators?

How would you have any idea what trump did or did not remember from his father? Is there clear and convincing evidence that there was any "criminal training" involved or is this just another one of those "throw out some new innuendo and see if it sticks" kind of comment (i.e. the usual)? And how could he have learned to "pardon those who can implicate you" from a man who was long dead before President Trump became President and had the authority to do so?

You're just throwing shit at the wall hoping some of it will stick.
... "trumps people practically all got vetted... (show quote)




WASHINGTON — A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.amp.html


https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trump-staggering-record-of-uncharged-criminal-misconduct/


Case: United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc.
1:73-01529 | U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York

https://clearinghouse.net/case/15342/

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Aug 7, 2022 19:34:49   #
Big Kahuna
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Hillary is the expert, I have one of her phone hammers.


Could you use that hammer on "Hill"?

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Aug 7, 2022 19:37:41   #
Big Kahuna
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I forgot Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS who put the whole Russian Collusion hoax into motion with the entire weight of government and media behind it.
The Russian hoax is second only to the biggest hoax in history; Brockobamma.


You know ovommit was a hoax when you can't find out anything about his life and he was the only President to never be vetted and he never ever offered a valid long form birth certificate.

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Aug 7, 2022 19:52:02   #
moldyoldy
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
You know ovommit was a hoax when you can't find out anything about his life and he was the only President to never be vetted and he never ever offered a valid long form birth certificate.



If that was true, then the republicans were completely derelict in their duties. That can’t be true since they hated having a Black president with an unquenchable burning passion.

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Aug 7, 2022 20:05:32   #
Big Kahuna
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If that was true, then the republicans were completely derelict in their duties. That can’t be true since they hated having a Black president with an unquenchable burning passion.


Maybe you can blame the rinos since they are in bed with the corrupt Demorat party. Ovommit was a black muslim who hated the US and was a black leftist hardcore racist to boot. His passion was destroying America and our great way of life. He was a jealous ba$tard.

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Aug 7, 2022 20:13:33   #
moldyoldy
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Maybe you can blame the rinos since they are in bed with the corrupt Demorat party. Ovommit was a black muslim who hated the US and was a black leftist hardcore racist to boot. His passion was destroying America and our great way of life. He was a jealous ba$tard.




So, Obama is the twelfth highest rated president, but you idiots are still celebrating the dumbest one.

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Aug 7, 2022 20:35:21   #
Big Kahuna
 
moldyoldy wrote:
So, Obama is the twelfth highest rated president, but you idiots are still celebrating the dumbest one.


I saw that poll. That poll was taken by listing 15 of the worst rated Demorat presidents. So what if ovommit was rated higher than 11 of them. It just shows you how lousy our Demorat presidents really were.

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Aug 7, 2022 20:53:25   #
moldyoldy
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
I saw that poll. That poll was taken by listing 15 of the worst rated Demorat presidents. So what if ovommit was rated higher than 11 of them. It just shows you how lousy our Demorat presidents really were.


Trump is forty five on the list.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:11:53   #
WEBCO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unfortunately they were following the directive to not indict a sitting president. The gop would not vote for impeachment, so he slid by again.


Not according to Mueller. Keep believing this lie if you wish, I'll continue to live in reality.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:21:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is forty five on the list.


Trump was indeed our 45th President but he is listed in the top 10 of all best American Presidents. He deserves to be moved up to the top 5 best of all time.

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Aug 7, 2022 21:51:27   #
Mikeyavelli
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If that was true, then the republicans were completely derelict in their duties. That can’t be true since they hated having a Black president with an unquenchable burning passion.


Start with this.



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Aug 7, 2022 21:56:54   #
moldyoldy
 
WEBCO wrote:
Not according to Mueller. Keep believing this lie if you wish, I'll continue to live in reality.



Maybe your dumb arse should read the report.

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Aug 7, 2022 22:00:26   #
moldyoldy
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Start with this.



A Botswanan newspaper tried to claim him as a native son. Just like the nazis claim trump.

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Aug 7, 2022 22:48:42   #
CarryOn
 
moldyoldy wrote:
WASHINGTON — A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.amp.html


https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trump-staggering-record-of-uncharged-criminal-misconduct/


Case: United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc.
1:73-01529 | U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York

https://clearinghouse.net/case/15342/
WASHINGTON — A sprawling report released Tuesday b... (show quote)


An "extensive web of contact" means nothing unless those contacts led to collusion, and they did not.

Senator Rubio (who chaired the committee), stated:

"Over the last three years, the Senate Intelligence Committee conducted a bipartisan and thorough investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election and undermine our democracy," Acting Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said in a statement Tuesday. "We interviewed over 200 witnesses and reviewed over 1 million pages of documents.

He added: "No probe into this matter has been more exhaustive."

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,” Rubio said.


Most of the discussion with respect to individuals on the campaign were directed at Manafort (who, by the way, was Trump's campaign chairman for less than three months). And even at that Manafort was eventually convicted of financial crimes having to do with tax evasion and failure to report income--NOT collusion or anything to do with collusion or Russian connections. Carter Page was indicted, claimed he was framed (which apparently he was), and after a three year court battle he was acquitted of all charges. Roger Stone was convicted of lying to Congress and obstruction of justice--NOT collusion or anything to do with collusion or Russian connections.

Whatever the "contacts" were, it was just that--contacts and/or communication and did not involve collusion. Whether, as you state, "practically all of trumps people" (which is doubtful) were "vetted by Russian spies" or not does not mean they participated in any wrongful activity, and the fact that none of them were convicted of any such crime makes whatever the "Russian spies" did irrelevant.

As for the suit filed against Trump Management, Inc. and the Trumps, this has nothing to do with anything. I suppose your citing it is in response to my dismissing your comment about President Trump's "criminal training" from his father but it proves absolutely nothing. No one was convicted of a criminal act. The case ended in a settlement between the parties with no admission of any violation on the part of Trump Management, Inc. and the Trumps. And it means nothing with respect to what President Trump's father might have "taught" him; and you have absolutely no knowledge of what President Trump's father did or did not teach him. Only what you wish to believe.

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