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Aug 7, 2022 13:29:52   #
elledee
 
permafrost wrote:
The Mueller report did nothing like you post.. it found 11 points which they recommended the D o J pursue, crimes that could be traced to trump, could not find the smoking gun needed in court to lock up the orange thing for directing the help from Russia.. did not exposed anyone about anything, the investigation was about trump and he covered his butt as he had been trained to do..


Your Trump derangement is still getting in the way of you facing the reality that the Russian hoax was created by your girlfriend hitlery

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Aug 7, 2022 13:45:19   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
elledee wrote:
Your Trump derangement is still getting in the way of you facing the reality that the Russian hoax was created by your girlfriend hitlery


NO, it was not a hoax and not originated by Lady Hillary..



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Aug 7, 2022 14:05:57   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Moldy was caught too but his was the size of a toothpick. I heard some young thing asked Moldy if he was into real estate. He said ,"no, why would you ask that ?" She said, "because I can tell you don't have "a lot".


Hung like Einstein, smart as a horse.

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Aug 7, 2022 14:13:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
NO, it was not a hoax and not originated by Lady Hillary..


Jake Sullivan, Robby Mook, John Podesta, James Comey, and Andrew McCabe originated the Russian hoax while Hillary was still crying in her chardonnay.
Trump had the best comment when he heard that he colluded with Russia to beat poooor Hillary. He said:
We didn't have time for that.

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Aug 7, 2022 15:05:38   #
CarryOn
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unfortunately they were following the directive to not indict a sitting president. The gop would not vote for impeachment, so he slid by again.

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Aug 7, 2022 15:23:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Jake Sullivan, Robby Mook, John Podesta, James Comey, and Andrew McCabe originated the Russian hoax while Hillary was still crying in her chardonnay.
Trump had the best comment when he heard that he colluded with Russia to beat poooor Hillary. He said:
We didn't have time for that.


NO, what he said was, he had learned from Nixon not to leave a paper trail or tapes of what he did...

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Aug 7, 2022 15:33:09   #
Oscar louks
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
It seems like a crazy question and we know that Alex Jones lied about Sandy Hook but shouldn't the Clintons, Bidens, Obamas, Shitts, Comeys, Stroycks and Pages be held to a higher standard? Why have they not been sued and fined for their hundreds of lies, many of which hurt many people and even killed many people. Why isn't Hitlery Clinton paying out millions to the Trumps, Trumps millions of voters and those hundreds of others whose lives she destroyed with her fake dossier and fake Russian Collusion Delusion. Why isn't Bill paying out millions to the taxpayers for dallying around in our White House while he was supposed to be working for us and then even tried to lie about it? Why isn't Slo Joe paying the American taxpayers back in the $$$$ billions for leaving $$$85 billion dollars of our military hardware behind in Afghanistan while getting members of our military killed in his terrible fiasco? Why isn't Bathhosed Boy paying us back by the billions by trying to destroy our Constitution, our way of life and drumming up racial strife? What about Adam Shitt telling lies about the info he had on Trump which he never had regarding the fake impeachment that cost us 4 years of bs and $$$ billions in dollars. All of these liars are much worse than Alex Jones and have stolen $$$$billions from the American taxpayer. If Jones has to pay, why not all the thieving crooked politicians? We could have our National Debt paid off if these crooks had to pay us back.
It seems like a crazy question and we know that Al... (show quote)

Connections. Connections

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Aug 7, 2022 15:36:34   #
CarryOn
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Unfortunately they were following the directive to not indict a sitting president. The gop would not vote for impeachment, so he slid by again.


HAHAHAHAHAHA! Still hanging your hat on that tired refrain about the mueller conclusion, I see. The mueller investigation found no clear and convincing evidence of criminal activity by President Trump. That was the reason the doj did not indict--not because he was a sitting president. The mueller report was basically a referral to congress in the hopes of an impeachment proceeding so their costly and lengthy and totally worthless investigation could in the end somehow be justified. Whatever "charges" they came up with, or "points" or whatever they chose to call them had no "smoking gun" behind them .. or even a "cold non-smoking gun."

"The Mueller Report Is an Impeachment Referral"

The special counsel has concluded he can neither charge nor clear the president. Only Congress can now resolve the allegations against him.


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But if Mueller believed he could not fairly say that the president had committed a crime, he also believed he could not honestly say that he hadn’t. “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state,” the report explained:

Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."
[Lawyerspeak for "we couldn't find anything,
but we desperately need to justify the cost of this investigation, plus we just don't like him and want him gone, so please, please, please indict."]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/mueller-report-impeachment-referral/587509/

Prosecutors don't walk into a courtroom and say, "Your Honor, we have charged the defendant with the crime of 'x.' We do not have clear and and convincing evidence that the defendant committed 'x'; however, we also do not have clear and convincing evidence that said defendant did NOT commit 'x.' And we feel it is imperative that this case be heard based on our biased judgment and the fact that 13 biased and angry prosecutors have spent over two years and $32 million to come to this 'conclusion.'"

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Aug 7, 2022 15:40:22   #
moldyoldy
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
But this portrait of the president's son is ok?
Let it slide? Russian disinformation?




Every month the right comes out with new pictures and new e mails. How many laptops did he have? Or is there another explanation that also explains why legitimate news people are not running with it.

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Aug 7, 2022 15:44:37   #
moldyoldy
 
CarryOn wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Still hanging your hat on that tired refrain about the mueller conclusion, I see. The mueller investigation found no clear and convincing evidence of criminal activity by President Trump. That was the reason the doj did not indict--not because he was a sitting president. The mueller report was basically a referral to congress in the hopes of an impeachment proceeding so their costly and lengthy and totally worthless investigation could in the end somehow be justified. Whatever "charges" they came up with, or "points" or whatever they chose to call them had no "smoking gun" behind them .. or even a "cold non-smoking gun."

"The Mueller Report Is an Impeachment Referral"

The special counsel has concluded he can neither charge nor clear the president. Only Congress can now resolve the allegations against him.


******

But if Mueller believed he could not fairly say that the president had committed a crime, he also believed he could not honestly say that he hadn’t. “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state,” the report explained:

Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."
[Lawyerspeak for "we couldn't find anything,
but we desperately need to justify the cost of this investigation, plus we just don't like him and want him gone, so please, please, please indict."]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/mueller-report-impeachment-referral/587509/

Prosecutors don't walk into a courtroom and say, "Your Honor, we have charged the defendant with the crime of 'x.' We do not have clear and and convincing evidence that the defendant committed 'x'; however, we also do not have clear and convincing evidence that said defendant did NOT commit 'x.' And we feel it is imperative that this case be heard based on our biased judgment and the fact that 13 biased and angry prosecutors have spent over two years and $32 million to come to this 'conclusion.'"
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Still hanging your hat on that tire... (show quote)



A lot of trumpsters got indicted. They got their directions from someone.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/breakdown-indictments-cases-muellers-probe/story?id=61219489

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

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Aug 7, 2022 15:49:21   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
NO, what he said was, he had learned from Nixon not to leave a paper trail or tapes of what he did...


Hillary is the expert, I have one of her phone hammers.

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Aug 7, 2022 16:04:58   #
CarryOn
 


"But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election."

Over the course of his nearly two-year-long probe, special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors have now indicted 34 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from computer hacking to conspiracy and financial crimes. [... and tax fraud, most having nothing to do with the original accusation against President Trump.]

But NO Russian collusion which was the phrase of every day/every hour/every minute on all of msm for over 2 years, and which we still hear often even though there is admittedly no evidence of it.

And, see, there you go ... like a typical, biased, Trump-hating liberal with severe TDS ... with the implication that these people who were caught in some crime were doing it "at the direction of President Trump" .. when, again, no smoking gun, no cold non-smoking gun, and in fact no gun at all. Just your empty worthless words trying to make it so.

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Aug 7, 2022 16:08:01   #
Mikeyavelli
 
CarryOn wrote:
"But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election."

Over the course of his nearly two-year-long probe, special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors have now indicted 34 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from computer hacking to conspiracy and financial crimes. [... and tax fraud, most having nothing to do with the original accusation against President Trump.]

But NO Russian collusion which was the phrase of every day/every hour/every minute on all of msm for over 2 years, and which we still hear often even though there is admittedly no evidence of it.

And, see, there you go ... like a typical, biased, Trump-hating liberal with severe TDS ... with the implication that these people who were caught in some crime were doing it "at the direction of President Trump" .. when, again, no smoking gun, no cold non-smoking gun, and in fact no gun at all. Just your empty worthless words trying to make it so.
i "But Mueller did not charge or suggest cha... (show quote)

I forgot Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS who put the whole Russian Collusion hoax into motion with the entire weight of government and media behind it.
The Russian hoax is second only to the biggest hoax in history; Brockobamma.

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Aug 7, 2022 16:11:50   #
CarryOn
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I forgot Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS who put the whole Russian Collusion hoax into motion with the entire weight of government and media behind it.
The Russian hoax is second only to the biggest hoax in history; Brockobamma.



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Aug 7, 2022 16:23:22   #
moldyoldy
 
CarryOn wrote:
"But Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for anyone on one of the biggest questions he faced: whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election."

Over the course of his nearly two-year-long probe, special counsel Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors have now indicted 34 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from computer hacking to conspiracy and financial crimes. [... and tax fraud, most having nothing to do with the original accusation against President Trump.]

But NO Russian collusion which was the phrase of every day/every hour/every minute on all of msm for over 2 years, and which we still hear often even though there is admittedly no evidence of it.

And, see, there you go ... like a typical, biased, Trump-hating liberal with severe TDS ... with the implication that these people who were caught in some crime were doing it "at the direction of President Trump" .. when, again, no smoking gun, no cold non-smoking gun, and in fact no gun at all. Just your empty worthless words trying to make it so.
i "But Mueller did not charge or suggest cha... (show quote)



You probably never noticed that trumps people practically all got vetted by Russian spies. And, most got indicted for their Russian connections. One of the few things that trump remembered from his criminal training from his father was to never leave a paper trail, no e mail, no voice mail, and pardon those who can implicate you.

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