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Aug 2, 2013 20:32:42   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
As a Pastor, you guys have gone way beyond my limits of the ongoing coup here. As a Disabled Vet from the 60's with many Diagnoses's from AOD, I'd like to quickly mention how it hurt me to see McCain turn into Hanoi McCain. Now that that's out of the way, I'll try to avoid the Double Standards of mixing Religion and Politics. But I will Pray for our elected officials through the Holy Spirit to open their eyes, and ears, and cast Satin from our White House, if Impeachment proceedings need be implemented, so be it. However, the ownership of D.C. belongs to the voters, not the elected politicians that so quickly serve the forked Tongue leader, the Lobbyists, The Big Labor Unions, all that fill deep empty pockets, rather then the deep hearts and souls with wisdom. Much of the wrongs in D.C. happened because we let it go too far, like a team of runaway horses that can't be stopped before they go off the precipice. It would take a million man march again, only to the 10th power if there ever be a chance of getting life and liberty back to as it was with Ozzie & Harriot, Sky King, Rin Tin Tin, and the list of good goes on. In these days of what can quickly turn to End Times, a change needs to happen before the next elections. And only through true faith, prayer, and uniting with each other as 1 make our presence known in D.C. God Bless you all and play nice.
Amen
Pastor Marc

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Aug 2, 2013 22:51:07   #
Bishop71
 
Thanks Old Gringo for the heads up. I saw that he just wants to cause trouble.

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Aug 2, 2013 23:46:44   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
People, I am going to have to admit to being nothing more than a Cold War Vet who served three years in the Army Security Agency. All we did was spy on the Iron Curtain countries' military and keep our people up on what they were saying and doing. We were doing much what the NSA does to all of us today, and although the others tried to do it to us they just weren't able to do it as well as we did. No combat duty but we did our combat jobs every work day which would be 9 days out of every 14.

I had more fun in the summer and fall of 1956 than I ever have here and I have plenty of that here. We kept our people informed of where the British, French and Egyptians were at any given time during the Suez Canal war. Then we managed to tell our wheels where every Soviet tank was located surrounding Hungary. That was scary as hell because there were more there than NATO had in all of Europe. Our nuclear capabilities were what kept them from driving us out of Europe. And now our Glorious Leader is destroying our nuclear capabilities as fast as he can.

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Aug 2, 2013 23:48:49   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
We must convince the House of Representatives to defund Obamacare since he is deciding what parts of it will go into effect on January 1, 2014. If he can determine what parts of the law go into effect we need to stop him in his tracks which would amount to destruction of the law.

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Aug 3, 2013 14:36:42   #
Political_Watchtower Loc: North Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
We must convince the House of Representatives to defund Obamacare since he is deciding what parts of it will go into effect on January 1, 2014. If he can determine what parts of the law go into effect we need to stop him in his tracks which would amount to destruction of the law.


We have to find a way to hold their collective feet to the fire. I do believe that as per their own law (Obamacare) it is supposed to be an all or nothing sort of play.

Personally I want Obamacare and all of those who support it gone. It hasn't even really gotten going and it has already really screwed me over. I used to have really good health insurance but it changed into one of those health savings plans and my perscription insurance took a full faceplant. I used to be able to get both of my prescriptions filled for about $30 for 3 months. Now one med is $9 for 3 months and the other is about $300 a month. It is rediculous.

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Aug 3, 2013 15:54:25   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
Political_Watchtower wrote:
We have to find a way to hold their collective feet to the fire. I do believe that as per their own law (Obamacare) it is supposed to be an all or nothing sort of play.

Personally I want Obamacare and all of those who support it gone. It hasn't even really gotten going and it has already really screwed me over. I used to have really good health insurance but it changed into one of those health savings plans and my perscription insurance took a full faceplant. I used to be able to get both of my prescriptions filled for about $30 for 3 months. Now one med is $9 for 3 months and the other is about $300 a month. It is rediculous.
We have to find a way to hold their collective fee... (show quote)


Once, there was a time in D.C. where every new law or bill went before the Senate and House for review. But for all but Rand Paul, going toe to toe with Obama, all the others fall into the special needs group, for it seems most can't read, or understand the words if they can read them.

Isaiah 10:
Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
3 What will you do on the day of reckoning,
when disaster comes from afar?
To whom will you run for help?
Where will you leave your riches?
4 Nothing will remain but to cringe among the captives
or fall among the slain.

God’s Judgment on Assyria
5 “Woe to the Assyrian, the rod of my anger,
in whose hand is the club of my wrath!
6 I send him against a godless nation,
I dispatch him against a people who anger me,
to seize loot and snatch plunder,
and to trample them down like mud in the streets.
7 But this is not what he intends,
this is not what he has in mind;
his purpose is to destroy,
to put an end to many nations.
8 ‘Are not my commanders all kings?’

The above could all apply to Obama. Our Commander In Chief, Bows before the Afghan King. He condones the murder of 1000's of baby's daily. And those that survive having his/her Head, Arms, Legs, Head, torn from His/Her torso, and come out from the womb as what Obama calls a Live Birth Abortion, he still decrees to have this precious gift from G-d Murdered, rather then let it be put up for adoption. May G-d have mercy on Obama's Soul, for he will surely feed the Hellfires, and smell Brimstone for Eternity.
He supports Sodomy, Bi-Sexualism,Transgendered, Same sex Marriage. What kind of Fool has Washington D.C. turned into. This great Imposter and Sinner will surely pay. If you click on Download you'll see who Obama's top 6 advisors are, then ask yourself about Obamacare again.
Pastor Marc

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Aug 3, 2013 20:38:44   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Political_Watchtower wrote:
We have to find a way to hold their collective feet to the fire. I do believe that as per their own law (Obamacare) it is supposed to be an all or nothing sort of play.

Personally I want Obamacare and all of those who support it gone. It hasn't even really gotten going and it has already really screwed me over. I used to have really good health insurance but it changed into one of those health savings plans and my perscription insurance took a full faceplant. I used to be able to get both of my prescriptions filled for about $30 for 3 months. Now one med is $9 for 3 months and the other is about $300 a month. It is rediculous.
We have to find a way to hold their collective fee... (show quote)


Back when the Bush people started all of that I just didn't want to have to pay any insurance costs to add to the prescriptions. I learned the hard way that I had screwed up not getting my pharmacist to explain it all to me. It turned out that I had to pay
a monthly fine that was about 30% of what I had to pay in fees. Last fall the company I had been with stopped providing the one med that I had them for so I found a new one that didn't provide that med but had the same thing that most people use and I finally found out that it cost nearly twice as much as what I had been taking. The insurance company pays a ridiculous amount and so do I. The med I was on had been prescribed when I had my 6 bypass surgery to handle both cholesterol and triglycerides. I just can't see how we managed to pay out so much more but who knows what government involvement in things like that will cost, in the end.

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Aug 4, 2013 02:16:16   #
Political_Watchtower Loc: North Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
Back when the Bush people started all of that I just didn't want to have to pay any insurance costs to add to the prescriptions. I learned the hard way that I had screwed up not getting my pharmacist to explain it all to me. It turned out that I had to pay
a monthly fine that was about 30% of what I had to pay in fees. Last fall the company I had been with stopped providing the one med that I had them for so I found a new one that didn't provide that med but had the same thing that most people use and I finally found out that it cost nearly twice as much as what I had been taking. The insurance company pays a ridiculous amount and so do I. The med I was on had been prescribed when I had my 6 bypass surgery to handle both cholesterol and triglycerides. I just can't see how we managed to pay out so much more but who knows what government involvement in things like that will cost, in the end.
Back when the Bush people started all of that I ju... (show quote)


And it isn't like either of us can do without those meds. They have us bent over the barrel.

In the end of 1992 I intervened in a dispute where a drug dealer was trying to kill a couple people. One of his friends jumped me and held me while he attempted to do a palm strike to the nose (an often fatal blow if done correctly). He ended up crushing my face, fracturing it in multiple places. Lots of damage. Lots of pain, and lots of expense (multiple surgeries). One of the results of that is severe chronic painful neuropathy of the face. The nerves of the face/head are permanently damaged in a manner where I constantly experience the pain from the injuries of that night (24/7/365). It doesn't lessen but it does worsen when my bloodpressure increases or when I am upset or stressed.

My meds are not a painkiller but are a neurotonin blocker that brings the pain down to a nearly manageable level. I have developed a very high pain tolerance, but that medication makes things more reasonable. If I could do without meds I would. I do not like being dependant upon anything or anyone. I refuse to accept VA benefits because there are others who need those more than I do. I don't want government assistance in any form or fashion because that gives them leverage in my life.

Life may not have been perfect before the abomination of Obamacare but it is definitly worse now because of Obamacare and the libturds.

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Aug 4, 2013 02:21:34   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
oldroy wrote:
I really wonder how and when people will realize that defunding is nothing but the very best checks and balances Congress has against a President who wants to decide what he can do. When Obama decided to decide what part of the Obamacare law could be kept back from being enforced he asked to be checked and most Republican congressmen decided to do something. Senator Lee had a number of signatures telling Obama to enforce all of it or they would defund the whole thing. With some pressure from Democrats some of the Senators who had been along with Lee backed out and one even said such action wasn't legal. I wonder how many of those slackers will be re-elected. Oh yeah, most of them aren't having to run in 2014 and they think that their constituents are both stupid and have short memories.


http://spectator.org/archives/2013/07/30/defunding-the-framers-remedy-
I really wonder how and when people will realize t... (show quote)


Way past time to stand up to communist liberal bullies!

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Aug 4, 2013 13:21:28   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Political_Watchtower wrote:
And it isn't like either of us can do without those meds. They have us bent over the barrel.

In the end of 1992 I intervened in a dispute where a drug dealer was trying to kill a couple people. One of his friends jumped me and held me while he attempted to do a palm strike to the nose (an often fatal blow if done correctly). He ended up crushing my face, fracturing it in multiple places. Lots of damage. Lots of pain, and lots of expense (multiple surgeries). One of the results of that is severe chronic painful neuropathy of the face. The nerves of the face/head are permanently damaged in a manner where I constantly experience the pain from the injuries of that night (24/7/365). It doesn't lessen but it does worsen when my bloodpressure increases or when I am upset or stressed.

My meds are not a painkiller but are a neurotonin blocker that brings the pain down to a nearly manageable level. I have developed a very high pain tolerance, but that medication makes things more reasonable. If I could do without meds I would. I do not like being dependant upon anything or anyone. I refuse to accept VA benefits because there are others who need those more than I do. I don't want government assistance in any form or fashion because that gives them leverage in my life.

Life may not have been perfect before the abomination of Obamacare but it is definitly worse now because of Obamacare and the libturds.
And it isn't like either of us can do without thos... (show quote)


My problems are nearly zero compared to yours. I do take two blood pressure pills but they cost very little even though one of them is paid for completely out of pocket.

You mentioned the VA, and it brought to mind the fact that my pharmacist back in the early 90s told me that I should get all my meds from them and he sure would as soon as he sold his store. I went with them and in three years on the only thing they would allow for cholesterol lowering I went from about 30% plugged in heart arteries to 85% to 95% at the time of my by pass. I blamed that drug and my doctor said I would be the first one she ever heard of plugging up with that one. Anyway they had cut my Vytorin to the smallest dose made and barely kept my cholesterol above what is considered minimum. I just can't get anyone to tell me why none of those insurance companies want to let me have it when it is cheaper than Zetia.

Oh well, when the government stomps into health care we of the Medicare group know what happens and that is the main reason I am against Obamacare.

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Aug 4, 2013 22:45:50   #
mtman2
 
It's the NSA personal POTUS private detection agency, even better than the Pinkertons! Guaranteed to get something on most everyone!!!!!?

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Sep 19, 2013 18:53:27   #
mtman2
 
faithistheword wrote:
Couldn't access the link.
Wouldn't you love to know what Soros/Obama have on all those Congressmen?
It must be widespread in D.C., whatever it is. I was astounded when John Roberts came up with that silly decision on obamacare. Say, how are all those investigations going?


They have ALL they need, as the NSA/IRS is in the Lib/Progs pocket !
They know what we're gonna do to them; FAIR tax - FISA revamp! So they are doing ALL they can to try to avert "Dads"[tax payers]wrath. Yeah, WHO is doing the investigation??? What one, seriously, ALL must be scared of some exposure. They got Gen. Petraeus, Marco Rubio and John Roberts.

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Sep 20, 2013 16:13:08   #
faithistheword
 
mohadib wrote:
Well if they're repug districts then they are stupid and have short memories.

Hey moldy, it looks like your finally realizing how screwed up your republican party is.and how it's childish comments and behavior are hurting our country.




Is there not ONE liberal with the brains to carry on a legitimate debate?
I read today that Alan Brewer, the democrat spokesman in California, wished a horrible death for the children of the speechwriter--THE SPEECHWRITER!!-- of Sen. Cruz! How brain-dead has that party become?? Nance had eq

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Sep 20, 2013 16:13:12   #
faithistheword
 
mohadib wrote:
Well if they're repug districts then they are stupid and have short memories.

Hey moldy, it looks like your finally realizing how screwed up your republican party is.and how it's childish comments and behavior are hurting our country.




Is there not ONE liberal with the brains to carry on a legitimate debate?
I read today that Alan Brewer, the democrat spokesman in California, wished a horrible death for the children of the speechwriter--THE SPEECHWRITER!!-- of Sen. Cruz! How brain-dead has that party become?? Nance had eq

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Sep 20, 2013 16:13:16   #
faithistheword
 
mohadib wrote:
Well if they're repug districts then they are stupid and have short memories.

Hey moldy, it looks like your finally realizing how screwed up your republican party is.and how it's childish comments and behavior are hurting our country.




Is there not ONE liberal with the brains to carry on a legitimate debate?
I read today that Alan Brewer, the democrat spokesman in California, wished a horrible death for the children of the speechwriter--THE SPEECHWRITER!!-- of Sen. Cruz! How brain-dead has that party become?? Nance had eq

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