son of witless wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh, heavy industry has existed in America, for maybe two hundred years. You are singling out the oil industry and the mining industry. Every heavy industry in America, in the world. Sure what you are saying is true. I could say the same thing about farming in the World. About the human race. Everywhere they went, they changed the environment and wiped out species.
How about every single action every advanced country has ever done. How about when we killed off all of the Buffalo ? Or how about we talk about the modern world ? How about we talk about the last 40 years ?
The oil industry today is one of the most environmentally sensitive industries that has ever existed. One and a half centuries of existence has meant something. Lets us also speak of what the oil industry has saved, like the freakin whales, and the trees. By the 1850s much of North America's forests had been burned up for heat. By that time much of the Earth's Great Whales had been killed to light the World's lamps. Oil and coal saved the whales and the trees. Doesn't that count for something ? Maybe a smidgen ?
As far as my contempt for Global Warming and Green Energy, I love the way you phrased that. I have nothing but contempt for them as concepts because so many lies and exaggerations have come out of those two words. I can't believe that you blindly accept them. Blindly.
Now that I have given my defense of fossil fuels, I will for the thousandth time slam Global Warming and Green Energy. I octuple dog dare you to dispute my details. If you can I will answer you, unlike most of the Liberals on OPP.
First off, if Human caused Global Warming is a real thing, then why why why do the same people who push it, also push illegal immigration ? More humans, more human caused Global Warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then there is nuclear power. It is the only only only non carbon emitting large scale power source that actually is reliable and would lower world wide CO2 levels.
IF Global Warming was actually as important as the Lunatics say it is, we would have a wall stopping illegal immigration and we would have new nuclear plants being built all over the place, but we don't. Therefore Global Warming is a lie.
Now lets us speak about solar panels and windmills. Who can hate them ? I can because they are a waste of money. If rich guys want to put them on their estates, I don't have a problem with them. The same with EVs.
But screw these tax incentives, screw the green mandates.
Lastly, lets us speak of the places that are far ahead of the pack in terms of green energy. Those leaders of the pack are disasters. If you want to live in those places, then move there. I am just trying to stop the green energy disease from coming to my state of Pennsylvania. But I digress, how about the Mecca of all things green and stupid in America, California. I believe they have something like 30 % renewables on their grid. That grid is the most unreliable grid in America and California's electric rates are also the highest in America.
But I left out Western Europe. Specifically Germany. Outside of California, this is ground zero for green stupid. They shutdown their nuclear and coal plants in favor of green, well that's the story. The reality is that all they did was trade coal and nukes for Russian gas. Putin has shown just how brain dead moronic German energy policy has been for 20 years.
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"Uhhhhhhhh, heavy industry has existed in America, for maybe two hundred years. You are singling out the oil industry and the mining industry. Every heavy industry in America, in the world. Sure what you are saying is true. I could say the same thing about farming in the World. About the human race. Everywhere they went, they changed the environment and wiped out species.
How about every single action every advanced country has ever done. How about when we killed off all of the Buffalo ? Or how about we talk about the modern world ? How about we talk about the last 40 years ?
The oil industry today is one of the most environmentally sensitive industries that has ever existed. One and a half centuries of existence has meant something. Lets us also speak of what the oil industry has saved, like the freakin whales, and the trees. By the 1850s much of North America's forests had been burned up for heat. By that time much of the Earth's Great Whales had been killed to light the World's lamps. Oil and coal saved the whales and the trees. Doesn't that count for something ? Maybe a smidgen ?
As far as my contempt for Global Warming and Green Energy, I love the way you phrased that. I have nothing but contempt for them as concepts because so many lies and exaggerations have come out of those two words. I can't believe that you blindly accept them. Blindly.
Now that I have given my defense of fossil fuels, I will for the thousandth time slam Global Warming and Green Energy. I octuple dog dare you to dispute my details. If you can I will answer you, unlike most of the Liberals on OPP.
First off, if Human caused Global Warming is a real thing, then why why why do the same people who push it, also push illegal immigration ? More humans, more human caused Global Warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then there is nuclear power. It is the only only only non carbon emitting large scale power source that actually is reliable and would lower world wide CO2 levels.
IF Global Warming was actually as important as the Lunatics say it is, we would have a wall stopping illegal immigration and we would have new nuclear plants being built all over the place, but we don't. Therefore Global Warming is a lie.
Now lets us speak about solar panels and windmills. Who can hate them ? I can because they are a waste of money. If rich guys want to put them on their estates, I don't have a problem with them. The same with EVs.
But screw these tax incentives, screw the green mandates.
Lastly, lets us speak of the places that are far ahead of the pack in terms of green energy. Those leaders of the pack are disasters. If you want to live in those places, then move there. I am just trying to stop the green energy disease from coming to my state of Pennsylvania. But I digress, how about the Mecca of all things green and stupid in America, California. I believe they have something like 30 % renewables on their grid. That grid is the most unreliable grid in America and California's electric rates are also the highest in America.
But I left out Western Europe. Specifically Germany. Outside of California, this is ground zero for green stupid. They shutdown their nuclear and coal plants in favor of green, well that's the story. The reality is that all they did was trade coal and nukes for Russian gas. Putin has shown just how brain dead moronic German energy policy has been for 20 years." - son of witless