Trump Wants Equal Time.
Liberty Tree wrote:
I asked for a list of Biden lies from the leftwing sources that listed Trump's alleged lies. Instead you tried to divert the attention to something else.
Here is what I found so far: Biden false claims so far is in the dozens, while Trump delivered well over 1,000 total false claims in his own first year . (About his past, Covid, economy, border & Afganistan we’re topic. Some cases he was talking off monitor and gave wrong facts.) not sure what your point on Biden lies are. Regardless of the number any lie is not good but less than 100 vs 1000 in a year is two a week vs 3a day. Trump was just warming up as it got worse each year in office.
RascalRiley wrote:
He has been invited. Keep up. 😂
Show me some actual evidence of that.
Haski123 wrote:
Here is what I found so far: Biden false claims so far is in the dozens, while Trump delivered well over 1,000 total false claims in his own first year . (About his past, Covid, economy, border & Afganistan we’re topic. Some cases he was talking off monitor and gave wrong facts.) not sure what your point on Biden lies are. Regardless of the number any lie is not good but less than 100 vs 1000 in a year is two a week vs 3a day. Trump was just warming up as it got worse each year in office.
Most of the time, what the haters called Trump lies, were actually the left twisting Trump's words to alter his meaning, taking them out of context and, essentially, lying about Trump's "lies."
Haski123 wrote:
I sure hope everyone is watching J6 Committee to understand what happened leading to, during and after J6. Interestingly a majority of inputs(documents, interviews and statements are from people directly involved in J6(mostly from Trumps staff & inner circle). You all Should want to hear with open mind what other Republicans saw happen.
An honest person, watching the hearings, can see that they were looking to come up with a legal method of not accepting electoral votes which they and many of us believe are invalid, for a number of reasons.
If you will remember, when Obama contrived Obamacare, he fully admitted that he felt that it was unconstitutional and that the courts would for a repeal of it. But he knew that he could legally have it legislated only to be court tested later. What the Trump camp was trying to do was the very same thing. They wanted Pence to deny some electoral votes, not count them on the basis of a belief that they were invalid, and let the courts sort it out later, bringing out the evidence of why they were invalid in the mean time.
Calling that a coup is utter melodrama, nothing more. Obviously some of the Trump supporters went way too far in their protest, but that is them. They are responsible for their reactions. Trump's position was perfectly clear. Be peaceful, law abiding. The fact that some were not and did not, is not Trump's fault.
But tell me, viewing what Schumer vocalized this past week, based upon the Jan 6th standards of inciteful speech, is Schumer not guilty of inciting violence against the SCOTUS???
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Haski123 wrote:
Well JR calling people names and classifying them in “buckets” does not add any value to discussions. Your statement has absolutely nothing to do with the subject. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on the subjects being discussed to better understand your position.
You need to go back and follow the thread and see what I was responding to. As I was reminded earlier, this is an open forum. Rarely do the comments stay on point as in any conversation. Pious much?
Haski123 wrote:
Here is what I found so far: Biden false claims so far is in the dozens, while Trump delivered well over 1,000 total false claims in his own first year . (About his past, Covid, economy, border & Afganistan we’re topic. Some cases he was talking off monitor and gave wrong facts.) not sure what your point on Biden lies are. Regardless of the number any lie is not good but less than 100 vs 1000 in a year is two a week vs 3a day. Trump was just warming up as it got worse each year in office.
Source? Who is doing the counting? That matters.
slatten49 wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/24/heres-the-full-list-of-every-lie-joe-biden-has-told-as-president-part-onehundredthirtynine-and-counting/
I know it's a stretch for you to realize that quotes and factual data backing up info on any link are subject to libel suits by the aggrieved party(ies), but try. Besides, the poster requested a listing of Trump's lies. I challenge anyone to post a list of his lies from right-wing sources. That is simply not in their DNA.
I welcome your proving me wrong.
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So you are saying the same publication that documented + 30000 Trump lies/missstatements using same criteria has a few dozen from Biden is biased. Fox clearly is not saying anything negative about Trump including not airing J6 committee so by default you are right. I bet I can find a heck of a lot more negatives for Biden than Trump on conservative networks. The various fact checkers tend to try to be politically neutral but it’s easy to say they aren’t. So you are right. Even if fact checker is biased 30000 lies over four years vs Biden dozens over 1-2 years, it’s either truthfull or one huge bias. Reading the lies they are typically documented quotes that are wrong. Pretty hard to be biased there.
Haski123 wrote:
So you are saying the same publication that documented + 30000 Trump lies/missstatements using same criteria has a few dozen from Biden is biased. Fox clearly is not saying anything negative about Trump including not airing J6 committee so by default you are right. I bet I can find a heck of a lot more negatives for Biden than Trump on conservative networks. The various fact checkers tend to try to be politically neutral but it’s easy to say they aren’t. So you are right. Even if fact checker is biased 30000 lies over four years vs Biden dozens over 1-2 years, it’s either truthfull or one huge bias. Reading the lies they are typically documented quotes that are wrong. Pretty hard to be biased there.
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Where are the Trump lies listed?
nwtk2007 wrote:
An honest person, watching the hearings, can see that they were looking to come up with a legal method of not accepting electoral votes which they and many of us believe are invalid, for a number of reasons.
If you will remember, when Obama contrived Obamacare, he fully admitted that he felt that it was unconstitutional and that the courts would for a repeal of it. But he knew that he could legally have it legislated only to be court tested later. What the Trump camp was trying to do was the very same thing. They wanted Pence to deny some electoral votes, not count them on the basis of a belief that they were invalid, and let the courts sort it out later, bringing out the evidence of why they were invalid in the mean time.
Calling that a coup is utter melodrama, nothing more. Obviously some of the Trump supporters went way too far in their protest, but that is them. They are responsible for their reactions. Trump's position was perfectly clear. Be peaceful, law abiding. The fact that some were not and did not, is not Trump's fault.
But tell me, viewing what Schumer vocalized this past week, based upon the Jan 6th standards of inciteful speech, is Schumer not guilty of inciting violence against the SCOTUS???
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Haven’t been following that piece yet. Will have to check out what Schumer said.
Haski123 wrote:
So you are saying the same publication that documented + 30000 Trump lies/missstatements using same criteria has a few dozen from Biden is biased. Fox clearly is not saying anything negative about Trump including not airing J6 committee so by default you are right. I bet I can find a heck of a lot more negatives for Biden than Trump on conservative networks. The various fact checkers tend to try to be politically neutral but it’s easy to say they aren’t. So you are right. Even if fact checker is biased 30000 lies over four years vs Biden dozens over 1-2 years, it’s either truthfull or one huge bias. Reading the lies they are typically documented quotes that are wrong. Pretty hard to be biased there.
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I'm not sure I follow you. They're not from the same publications. The listing of 30000+lies by Trump was from the NY Times. The link you referenced is from The Federalist. It was given in response to Liberty Tree's request for Biden lies. As he meant a list of Biden lies from the NY Times...I misunderstood his specific request.
I see negligible differences between mine and your POV/perspectives.
slatten49 wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you. They're not from the same publications. The listing of 30000+lies by Trump was from the NY Times. The link you referenced is from The Federalist. It was given in response to Liberty Tree's request for Biden lies. As he meant a list of Biden lies from the NY Times...I misunderstood his specific request.
I see negligible differences between mine and your POV/perspectives.
You are right. Any publication that list Trump lies should accurately post Biden lies and vice versa.
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