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Reporter in Uvalde: Biden Visit Stoking a 'Lot of Outrage"
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May 30, 2022 09:46:23   #
fullspinzoo
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/reporter-in-uvalde-biden-visit-stoking-a-lot-of-outrage/ar-AAXReA5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=81271f5afa19468c8d3fa0aa6d404246

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May 30, 2022 10:07:06   #
son of witless
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/reporter-in-uvalde-biden-visit-stoking-a-lot-of-outrage/ar-AAXReA5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=81271f5afa19468c8d3fa0aa6d404246


The Democrats need to score political points wherever they can. This is an opportunity they will not pass up.

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May 30, 2022 10:52:34   #
pegw
 
I have a lot of outrage. I totally agree with the residents of Uvalde when they yelled "Do Something" to Biden. Exactly my thoughts.

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May 30, 2022 10:52:52   #
pegw
 
I have a lot of outrage. I totally agree with the residents of Uvalde when they yelled "Do Something" to Biden. Exactly my thoughts.

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May 30, 2022 10:54:11   #
son of witless
 
pegw wrote:
I have a lot of outrage. I totally agree with the residents of Uvalde when they yelled "Do Something" to Biden. Exactly my thoughts.


How about lock the school doors ?

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May 30, 2022 12:01:20   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
son of witless wrote:
How about lock the school doors ?


A door can be blown open by a few well placed rounds.--- I do not like what this has come down to at all but it is time to enact federal red flag laws for starters--- the Uvalde killer had a history--

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May 30, 2022 12:21:16   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
A door can be blown open by a few well placed rounds.--- I do not like what this has come down to at all but it is time to enact federal red flag laws for starters--- the Uvalde killer had a history--


Be careful with red flag laws. Some red flag laws would flag veterans for fear of PTSD. Others would be flagged because of political leanings. The answer is harden the schools IMO.

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May 30, 2022 12:36:46   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
A door can be blown open by a few well placed rounds.--- I do not like what this has come down to at all but it is time to enact federal red flag laws for starters--- the Uvalde killer had a history--


Correct. So, why did law enforcement not breach the door to the classroom, and take the dirtbag out before he killed them all?

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May 30, 2022 13:14:08   #
son of witless
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
A door can be blown open by a few well placed rounds.--- I do not like what this has come down to at all but it is time to enact federal red flag laws for starters--- the Uvalde killer had a history--


Likely this kid would not have possessed those capabilities.
I agree that this kid and the other idiot in Buffalo should have
been flagged, but by existing laws. We have laws on the books which
keep being ignored.

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May 30, 2022 14:57:04   #
American Vet
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
A door can be blown open by a few well placed rounds.--- I do not like what this has come down to at all but it is time to enact federal red flag laws for starters--- the Uvalde killer had a history--


Someone else posted this - and it sums it up nicely (can't remember who it was but kudos to them):

1. Guns aren’t the problem. “Gun Free Zones” are the problem. They are killing fields. They are an open invitation for mentally-deranged criminals and criminally insane madmen to walk in and start shooting. “Gun Free Zone” signs are like a blinking neon sign in Vegas screaming, “Come on in and kill us. We are helpless, defenseless and weak.”

2. Guns didn’t cause this tragedy. But a good guy with a gun sure ended it. An armed border agent killed the bad guy, thereby saving lives. That should be the headline.

3. We need more good guys (and gals) with guns to stop bad guys. Every school needs armed security. There should be only a single point of entry to every school- and a guard must always protect that entrance. All other doors to the school need to be locked and secured.

4. Backing up the armed security at every school should be teachers and/or administrators with guns and professional gun training.

5. How can we afford all this? I’ve argued from day one it was a disastrous decision and tragic mistake to give another $40 billion to Ukraine. We need to worry about America. We could have used that $40 billion here at home. Half of it ($20 billion) should have been used to pay for armed security at every school in America.

6. If we really want to protect children, secure the border. The other half of the Ukraine funding ($20 billion more) should have been used to build and secure the wall on our Southern border. If we’re angry and shocked as a nation about 19 innocent young children dying in that school shooting, shouldn’t we be even more concerned with tens of thousands of American kids dying each year from drug overdoses- with drugs brought through our porous open border. Everything that comes over that border is a threat to America’s children- drugs, human traffickers, child sex traffickers and tons of violent criminals, gang bangers and MS-13 murderers. Why didn’t we use that Ukraine money to save thousands of children’s lives by securing the border?

7. Gun control is never the answer. Gun control is a massive failure. There are far more shootings, violent crimes and murders in Democrat-run big cities with strict gun control than anywhere else. If strict gun control works, why are the streets of Democrat cities like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, New York and Los Angeles such killing fields? The answer is simple: strict gun control never stops criminals. It just leaves the good people defenseless.
8. New gun laws will do nothing to stop crime or mass murders. Why don’t we enforce laws already on the books against violent criminals? Crimes are almost always committed by repeat offenders that Democrat District Attorneys allowed back on the streets.

9. Instead of useless new laws, why don’t we make mass murder (the killing of two or more) a DEATH PENALTY crime. If convicted of mass murder, there are no appeals, the convicted mass killer is executed the next day by firing squad. End of story. That’s the way to deter more mass shootings.

10. Investigate Big Pharma for the drugs they pump into young males for depression, anger issues, ADD and mental illness. Virtually every mass killer in recent memory was on these drugs. The side effects of these drugs are suicidal and violent thoughts. Why are we drugging so many male teenagers?

11. Never mention “Defund Police” ever again. Incidents like this prove we need more police, not less.

12. But as much as I love and appreciate police, boy did they fail miserably this time. There are many questions about how the police responded to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. How could they stand around for an hour while kids were being slaughtered? Police announced they waited so long because they were “afraid to get shot.” Really? If police are afraid to get shot, they should be instantly terminated. That’s their job- to risk their life to protect civilians. And while they refused to enter the school to confront the shooter, they handcuffed, tasered and pepper sprayed parents who begged them to go in? So, please no more “defund police,” but let’s re-think how we’re hiring and training police. We need heroic macho warriors. Stop trying to make them into politically-correct pansies, poets and social workers.

13. This mass shooting and the poor police response only makes American patriots even more certain it’s up to us to defend ourselves and save our families. We love the police, but we can never count on them. “If it is to be, it is up to me.” I’ll bet more guns will be bought in the coming months by Americans than ever before in history.

14. One final point. Actually, it’s a pledge. Stop trying to take our guns. This isn’t Australia or New Zealand. This is America. You’re never taking our guns. As in never, never, never, EVER. You’ll only take our guns from our cold dead hands. So, drop your demands. You’re wasting your time. You may not know it yet, but you’ve lost the battle

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May 30, 2022 15:00:41   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Be careful with red flag laws. Some red flag laws would flag veterans for fear of PTSD. Others would be flagged because of political leanings. The answer is harden the schools IMO.


I agree- it could be a vindictive girlfriend easy. In my home town of Klamath Falls Oregon a man named Dewitt Henry murdered 6 people outside of a nightclub with a 223,One of the Women Carol Sneff had gone all through high school with me.--She was 8 months pregnant. A week before that Dewitts' estranged wife Vickie begged the police to take his guns because she knew he was going to do what he did. They did not listen to her.

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May 30, 2022 15:03:22   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
American Vet wrote:
Someone else posted this - and it sums it up nicely (can't remember who it was but kudos to them):

1. Guns aren’t the problem. “Gun Free Zones” are the problem. They are killing fields. They are an open invitation for mentally-deranged criminals and criminally insane madmen to walk in and start shooting. “Gun Free Zone” signs are like a blinking neon sign in Vegas screaming, “Come on in and kill us. We are helpless, defenseless and weak.”

2. Guns didn’t cause this tragedy. But a good guy with a gun sure ended it. An armed border agent killed the bad guy, thereby saving lives. That should be the headline.

3. We need more good guys (and gals) with guns to stop bad guys. Every school needs armed security. There should be only a single point of entry to every school- and a guard must always protect that entrance. All other doors to the school need to be locked and secured.

4. Backing up the armed security at every school should be teachers and/or administrators with guns and professional gun training.

5. How can we afford all this? I’ve argued from day one it was a disastrous decision and tragic mistake to give another $40 billion to Ukraine. We need to worry about America. We could have used that $40 billion here at home. Half of it ($20 billion) should have been used to pay for armed security at every school in America.

6. If we really want to protect children, secure the border. The other half of the Ukraine funding ($20 billion more) should have been used to build and secure the wall on our Southern border. If we’re angry and shocked as a nation about 19 innocent young children dying in that school shooting, shouldn’t we be even more concerned with tens of thousands of American kids dying each year from drug overdoses- with drugs brought through our porous open border. Everything that comes over that border is a threat to America’s children- drugs, human traffickers, child sex traffickers and tons of violent criminals, gang bangers and MS-13 murderers. Why didn’t we use that Ukraine money to save thousands of children’s lives by securing the border?

7. Gun control is never the answer. Gun control is a massive failure. There are far more shootings, violent crimes and murders in Democrat-run big cities with strict gun control than anywhere else. If strict gun control works, why are the streets of Democrat cities like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, New York and Los Angeles such killing fields? The answer is simple: strict gun control never stops criminals. It just leaves the good people defenseless.
8. New gun laws will do nothing to stop crime or mass murders. Why don’t we enforce laws already on the books against violent criminals? Crimes are almost always committed by repeat offenders that Democrat District Attorneys allowed back on the streets.

9. Instead of useless new laws, why don’t we make mass murder (the killing of two or more) a DEATH PENALTY crime. If convicted of mass murder, there are no appeals, the convicted mass killer is executed the next day by firing squad. End of story. That’s the way to deter more mass shootings.

10. Investigate Big Pharma for the drugs they pump into young males for depression, anger issues, ADD and mental illness. Virtually every mass killer in recent memory was on these drugs. The side effects of these drugs are suicidal and violent thoughts. Why are we drugging so many male teenagers?

11. Never mention “Defund Police” ever again. Incidents like this prove we need more police, not less.

12. But as much as I love and appreciate police, boy did they fail miserably this time. There are many questions about how the police responded to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. How could they stand around for an hour while kids were being slaughtered? Police announced they waited so long because they were “afraid to get shot.” Really? If police are afraid to get shot, they should be instantly terminated. That’s their job- to risk their life to protect civilians. And while they refused to enter the school to confront the shooter, they handcuffed, tasered and pepper sprayed parents who begged them to go in? So, please no more “defund police,” but let’s re-think how we’re hiring and training police. We need heroic macho warriors. Stop trying to make them into politically-correct pansies, poets and social workers.

13. This mass shooting and the poor police response only makes American patriots even more certain it’s up to us to defend ourselves and save our families. We love the police, but we can never count on them. “If it is to be, it is up to me.” I’ll bet more guns will be bought in the coming months by Americans than ever before in history.

14. One final point. Actually, it’s a pledge. Stop trying to take our guns. This isn’t Australia or New Zealand. This is America. You’re never taking our guns. As in never, never, never, EVER. You’ll only take our guns from our cold dead hands. So, drop your demands. You’re wasting your time. You may not know it yet, but you’ve lost the battle
Someone else posted this - and it sums it up nicel... (show quote)


A child has no rights and has no say-- we won't give an inch for fear they'll take more and the children are told --just hit the floor.

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May 30, 2022 15:04:44   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
Correct. So, why did law enforcement not breach the door to the classroom, and take the dirtbag out before he killed them all?


They were panty waists unworthy of their badge.

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May 31, 2022 07:39:10   #
Dragnet
 
son of witless wrote:
The Democrats need to score political points wherever they can. This is an opportunity they will not pass up.


The demos will never let a tragedy go to waste.

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May 31, 2022 11:49:09   #
fullspinzoo
 
Dragnet wrote:
The demos will never let a tragedy go to waste.


You're right. Part of the Alinsky "rules".

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