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The Elephant in OPP: Texan Lawmakers Killed 19 Children
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May 27, 2022 11:04:05   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Fab wrote:
Where were the coward police? It’s sad when an off duty Border patrol officer went into the school after a text from his wife to save his daughter and shoot the gunman, from what I read, the police were being fired at and wouldn’t enter the room. Mental illness perhaps but not according to his mother, he was a good boy! Clueless parent!


Again, this is not correct. The Borfer Patrol Swat was called in by the local police. No wife text. Sorry.

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May 27, 2022 11:19:37   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
amadjuster wrote:
True, with a court order. This needs to be changed.


It certainly does!

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May 27, 2022 11:19:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Fab wrote:
Where were the coward police? It’s sad when an off duty Border patrol officer went into the school after a text from his wife to save his daughter and shoot the gunman, from what I read, the police were being fired at and wouldn’t enter the room. Mental illness perhaps but not according to his mother, he was a good boy! Clueless parent!


You should wait for all the facts to come out before passing on hearsay.

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May 27, 2022 11:26:36   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Alright, one more response, then I'm done with this BS.

More than a few times on this thread alone, the suggestion was made that we should better enforce the gun control laws that we already have and it amazes me that you aren't learning the bigger lesson here. They don't work! You just presented the case to prove it.

The kid was arrested after making statements that he was going to shoot up a school in 2022 and yet Texas laws STILL allowed him to buy the guns to kill 21 people. Talk about a failure!

So here's my answer to your question...

These folks in Texas with violent mental problems aren't put on the list because there is no list. Not in any real sense and that's because it's simply too expensive. States like Texas will suggest psychological profiles as a political gesture to fake concern - they might even legislate it but they aren't actually going to pay for it. As I've already mentioned, psychology is expensive and it's ridiculous to think a government can profile every potential killer. Even if they could - who would want to live in a country where everyone is profiled?

By contrast, pulling products from the market is easy and relatively cheap to do. Governments do it all the time with drugs, imports and anything else that doesn't interfere with the small arms business and it's cash cow, the American gun fetish. Not only that but you don't have to rely on expensive psychological predictions that no one wants to pay for to have any real effect.

Will the banning of high capacity weapon categories on the market stop all the violence? Of course not. But countries all across the developed world have a proven track record that it DOES scale the problem down significantly. Incidentally, almost all of these other developed nations DO allow citizens to own guns with appropriate licensing.

So there's the policy that is proven to work to a significant degree (without interfering with the right to bear arms) and there is the policy that really doesn't work at all and the ONLY reason why Texas opted for the policy that doesn't work at all is because it doesn't matter to them if ANYTHING works as long as they can indulge in their fetish.
Alright, one more response, then I'm done with thi... (show quote)


Yeah, Nancy, have the last word, and walk away in a snit.
Someone here mentioned narcissistic behaviour on your part. You just proved it to be true!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!

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May 27, 2022 11:30:17   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:
Alright, one more response, then I'm done with this BS..


LOL

Yeah - you have been pretty soundly spanked.

Best you tuck tail and run.

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May 27, 2022 11:45:55   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
straightUp wrote:
I know a lot of people here are gun nerds - but 19 children and 2 adults have just been killed in Texas. And the lawmakers there are totally responsible for it.

Let's face it... Common Sense Gun Laws are NOT a threat to the 2nd Amendment. Not one of them are preventing me from owning the guns that I have, or using them for recreation or self-defense. Not one.

I'm a pretty good shot too, so I don't need a high capacity magazine to try over and over and over again to hit the target. I can defend my home with my 12-gauge just fine and in liberal California you DO have a right to shoot intruders on your property.

The ONLY reason why Texan lawmakers are passing laws to combat common sense gun laws is because the NRA owns them and the NRA wants to provide a profitable market for gun dealers and manufacturers. It's that simple.
I know a lot of people here are gun nerds - but 19... (show quote)


Well, the Left is planning on killing billions. No fuel, no fertilizer, no food, and were even running out of water. Do you think that's an accident? It's why an unknown illegal alien named Obama, was installed as president of the USA from out of nowhere. And he controls old slow Joe for his third term and wasn't elected by the people. Mass starvation headed our way globally and was brought to us by the elites and their useful idiots.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/un-food-head-warns-conditions-worse-arab-spring-inflation-riots-spread

https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/stunning-images-show-potash-train-derailed-in-canada-amid-fertilizer-crunch/302810

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May 27, 2022 12:13:16   #
Fab
 
microphor wrote:
You should wait for all the facts to come out before passing on hearsay.


A lot of eye witnesses to that one.

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May 27, 2022 12:14:54   #
EmilyD
 
One Patriot wrote:
Ok smart guy, explain this to all of us since you are sooo much smarter than the rest of us.

Why are there school shooting now? We used to take our guns to school and there were no school shootings. Most of the guns were on gun racks on the back window of the truck. So, common sense says it’s not the guns.

Can’t blame it on crazy people because we had crazy people back then and there wasn’t any school shootings.

Can’t blame it on the laws, because the gun laws are more strict now than what they were then.

So, explain it to all of us, what changed? Guns? No! Craziness? No!

I wonder if you can explain it without calling me names? I really doubt it. I get the feeling you’re one of those people that will call someone names in the hopes it will upset, make them mad, etc. so they will slip up or give up so you can win the argument by default.
Ok smart guy, explain this to all of us since you ... (show quote)

This person is incapable of posting without insulting anyone. And this is not my "opinion" - the facts are in black and white right there in all her posts. She has mental problems and needs help.

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May 27, 2022 12:15:19   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Fab wrote:
A lot of eye witnesses to that one.


Eye witnesses are often the least reliable sources.

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May 27, 2022 12:21:12   #
Fab
 
microphor wrote:
Eye witnesses are often the least reliable sources.


Perhaps, how do you justify the border Patrol agent who wasn’t at the scene coming in to apprehend the shooter???

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May 27, 2022 12:22:44   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
Eye witnesses are often the least reliable sources.


Hands up, don't shoot!

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May 27, 2022 13:32:44   #
Truth be known
 
microphor wrote:
Ok, I think we should charge Biden with the 13 Americans and 12 kids that died in his operation Afghanistan. Sounds fair.


👍👍👍

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May 27, 2022 13:38:55   #
Rose42
 
EmilyD wrote:
This person is incapable of posting without insulting anyone. And this is not my "opinion" - the facts are in black and white right there in all her posts. She has mental problems and needs help.


If you are referring to straightup he is a man

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May 27, 2022 14:00:44   #
Truth be known
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is not true.

The semi-auto AR15 Sporter was developed by Armalite and produced for civilian use by Colt.
The M16 select fire weapon was adopted for military use.
They may look alike, but they do not function the same.

Ask a soldier, marine or navy SEAL if they would take an AR15 into combat, and he'll tell you to shove it up your ass.

In response to a question during a tactical defense course, our instructors - former Army Rangers - demonstrated why magazine capacity makes little difference to a determined shooter.

One instructor loaded an AR15 with a 30rd mag, the other loaded his with one 10 rd mag and had two more 10 rd mags in a belt pouch.

The plan was for each shooter to fire aimed shots at a series of targets with confirmed hits as fast as they could.

When the signal was given and the stop watch punched, the shooters went to work.
When all rounds were fired, the trooper with three 10rd mags finished around 5 or 6 seconds later.
And he wasn't even using tactical reloads.

Over decades, thousands of gun control laws at the local, state and federal levels, even the most restrictive,
have had very little to no effect in reducing gun crimes.
Even Clinton's 10 year AWB had no measurable effect in reducing gun crimes.
The only people affected - should I say "punished" - by gun control laws are the law abiding American gun owners.
Criminals and psychopaths don't give a damn about laws.
Criminals for Gun Control

Violent crime is an effect, guns are not the cause.

No one is more detestable than a narcissistic leftist who thinks he the smartest SOB on earth,
and even more detestable is one who dances on the graves of murdered children, politicizing their deaths,
and using this as a weapon to blame his political adversaries.
That is not true. br br The semi-auto AR15 Sporte... (show quote)


Blade, thank you for sharing the video link. I'm forwarding it to all gun control idiots that I know. Also, thanks for explaining what an AR15 is, in simple terms, hopefully liberals can understand. None of my weapons are "assault weapons", they are "defense weapons", if they "look scary, and frighten" another person, then they have done their job. Especially, if all I have to do is point the weapon at an assailant and they leave. No shots fired. It's a win-win situation, we both live.

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May 27, 2022 14:00:44   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
If you are referring to straightup he is a man


Depends on how you define "man" I guess.

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