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May 2, 2022 13:24:20   #
Dirk Dig
 
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

In my opinion, the current administration has caused the housing crisis.

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May 2, 2022 13:54:01   #
okie don
 
Inflation and cost of materials has been a big problem.
Hard to estimate costs...

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May 2, 2022 14:12:37   #
MidnightRider
 
woodguru wrote:
It just does, and it conjures up so many images of all the worst Nazi, Communist, socialist stuff...

And it is...government is going to spy on us with this disinformation board, it's a ministry of truth, they will start torturing people that want the truth.

Meanwhile for a dose of the less scary truth, the reality is that we will be dealing with openness and transparency being shined on disinformation, misinformed people are making this country look like a dangerous bunch of gun toting morons that can tell facts from world class Russian rhetoric and propaganda.

Apparently the government needs to step in and do something about harmful lies.
It just does, and it conjures up so many images of... (show quote)


You're 180 degrees away from what it really means. Yes they'll spy on us however, since the Patriot Act was passed they have had that power. This is more insidious. They hope to step in and what we know is truth they'll say is lies. Etc. One extremely bad point about this, it just may be the tipping point. I'm locked n loaded ,well stocked, with well over 3000 antifa and blm in the ground. They have yet to scare me and I think many others here.

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May 2, 2022 14:18:26   #
whole2th
 
https://babylonbee.com/news/hunter-biden-receives-50k-per-month-salary-for-seat-on-disinformation-governance-board

And Brandon says he didn't know about his son's business dealings.

How's this for your daily dose of sardonic humor? Note the Jewess (her grandparents from Warsaw ghetto) who has been appointed to head the "Ministry of Truth"!

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May 2, 2022 14:20:12   #
whole2th
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why then is there such a need on the right to spread misinformation. Lies, suppositions, innuendo. And propaganda.
And Trump LOST ! Let’s start there.


The documentary "2000 Mules" premieres today.

We'll see about "Trump LOST!"

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May 2, 2022 14:28:21   #
WEBCO
 
working class stiff wrote:
And what happens when one is unable to prove one's assertions in a court of law, but continues to spout those same harmful lies? Nothing, right? Those lies can continue to be repeated, as though they were the truth. The 'stolen election' lie comes to mind, for some reason.

Do you honestly think that a Republican government (say, in 2024) will have any more credibility than the current one? I sure as heck don't think so, given what we experienced the last time we had a Republican government (2017-2018).
And what happens when one is unable to prove one'... (show quote)


Russian collusion, the covid19 "vaccine" is safe and effective, masks are effective against a virus, and hunters laptop is disinformation come to my mind.

All of which have been pushed by the MSM and big tech as true. All of which have been "PROVEN" false. This is unconstitutional and galacticly stupid, but hey what else is new for the left?

What happens when I say that Rachel Levine is a man? Will this fact be labeled as "misinformation"?

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May 2, 2022 14:47:05   #
whole2th
 
WEBCO wrote:
Russian collusion, the covid19 "vaccine" is safe and effective, masks are effective against a virus, and hunters laptop is disinformation come to my mind.

All of which have been pushed by the MSM and big tech as true. All of which have been "PROVEN" false. This is unconstitutional and galacticly stupid, but hey what else is new for the left?

What happens when I say that Rachel Levine is a man? Will this fact be labeled as "misinformation"?


These lies and many more have been pushed by change agents here at OPP.
~Z30

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May 2, 2022 15:02:14   #
American Vet
 
WEBCO wrote:

What happens when I say that Rachel Levine is a man? Will this fact be labeled as "misinformation"?


Punishable by a $10,000 fine and 1 year in jail..........

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May 2, 2022 15:13:41   #
okie don
 
WEBCO wrote:
Russian collusion, the covid19 "vaccine" is safe and effective, masks are effective against a virus, and hunters laptop is disinformation come to my mind.

All of which have been pushed by the MSM and big tech as true. All of which have been "PROVEN" false. This is unconstitutional and galacticly stupid, but hey what else is new for the left?

What happens when I say that Rachel Levine is a man? Will this fact be labeled as "misinformation"?


Same thing if I say Michelle is a Tranny like Joan Rivers told us. A fine and jail, I guess.

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May 2, 2022 15:33:50   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Republican at the time referred to The Republic controlled by the people. We have long pasted a Republic form of government that now views us as peasants and both parties supporting God's Will in fulfillment or fulfilling prophecy, be it through greed, corruption or Demonic lead leaders.
Our leadership that are true to God could be comfortably fit in a school bus.
Many administration's before Bush,Obama, Trump and Biden locked in America's fate of economic collapse by pushing our Fiat currency beyond debt based to saturation, our trajectory has been One World Government, Currency (Digital) and Protestant/Catholic/Islam apologist based religion.
I'm still surprised (but should not be) when Christian "Leaders " (most in name only) preach of a coming of America turning back to God and everything returning to normal or a red wave with Trump or a Trump mindset leader returning America to Great days of economic prosperity, World leadership ect. These that hold this hope are not tuned into World events, WORLDWIDE economic imminent collapse or even how America's economic engine works.
If we only consider how Fiat currency works and how it reaches a unsustainable saturation point, just that alone is enough to bring America down and we passed that point over a decade ago.

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May 2, 2022 16:48:15   #
okie don
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Republican at the time referred to The Republic controlled by the people. We have long pasted a Republic form of government that now views us as peasants and both parties supporting God's Will in fulfillment or fulfilling prophecy, be it through greed, corruption or Demonic lead leaders.
Our leadership that are true to God could be comfortably fit in a school bus.
Many administration's before Bush,Obama, Trump and Biden locked in America's fate of economic collapse by pushing our Fiat currency beyond debt based to saturation, our trajectory has been One World Government, Currency (Digital) and Protestant/Catholic/Islam apologist based religion.
I'm still surprised (but should not be) when Christian "Leaders " (most in name only) preach of a coming of America turning back to God and everything returning to normal or a red wave with Trump or a Trump mindset leader returning America to Great days of economic prosperity, World leadership ect. These that hold this hope are not tuned into World events, WORLDWIDE economic imminent collapse or even how America's economic engine works.
If we only consider how Fiat currency works and how it reaches a unsustainable saturation point, just that alone is enough to bring America down and we passed that point over a decade ago.
Republican at the time referred to The Republic co... (show quote)


The death of the "petrodollar' will bring us to our knees, as stated.
It's been 50 yrs or so since Nixon took our currency off of being gold backed.

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May 2, 2022 17:36:49   #
Highlander66 Loc: Illinois
 
So, the general impression I’m getting from this new addition to DHS, is leftists are for it and conservatives are against it. I have to make the assumption that leftists are for it because it is currently being controlled by leftists who feel they would get to say what is disinformation or not. However, what will they say when a conservative President and Congress get in and they decide what is disinformation or not. As a relatively independent, I’d rather not have some bureaucratic group deciding what is true or not. Neither side has a strong track record of being correct on much.

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May 2, 2022 17:56:17   #
American Vet
 
Highlander66 wrote:
So, the general impression I’m getting from this new addition to DHS, is leftists are for it and conservatives are against it. I have to make the assumption that leftists are for it because it is currently being controlled by leftists who feel they would get to say what is disinformation or not. However, what will they say when a conservative President and Congress get in and they decide what is disinformation or not. As a relatively independent, I’d rather not have some bureaucratic group deciding what is true or not. Neither side has a strong track record of being correct on much.
So, the general impression I’m getting from this n... (show quote)


I asked this question of Woody - and he avoids answering it.

So if a Republican is elected President and appoints Marjorie Taylor Greene to head the 'Ministry of Truth' - you would be OK with that?

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May 2, 2022 18:01:04   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Biden’s Ministry of Truth will spy on American citizens

Exhilarated after retaking both houses of Congress and the presidency, the Democrats are behaving as though they have carte blanche to destroy all vestiges of their political opposition by whatever means necessary. Progressive liberals want to completely eradicate anyone with an incompatible vision. “Democrats are literally beginning to sound like ISIS,” tweeted conservative commentator Candace Owens. “‘Recite the Quran or get your head chopped off, now!’ Absolutely psychopathic,” Owens said.

Conservative positions are attacked as disinformation and the purveyors are canceled. If you suggest that global warming is a hoax, you are spreading disinformation. If you so much as bring up the topic of election fraud, you are spreading disinformation. If you warn that Joe Biden’s intention to open our borders can lead to disastrous outcomes, you are spreading disinformation. For anyone who believes in free speech, this kind of insidious censorship is terrifying.

What is disinformation? Disinformation is information that is intended to mislead or obscure the truth.

In a disturbing development for freedom of speech, the Biden administration announced that it will collaborate with social media to crack down on any information that is critical of Biden’s vaccination policy. Disinformation, said Tucker Carlson, “seems to be anything the Biden administration does not want the people to know including, for example, how effective the COVID vaccines actually are and what the potential side effects might be from taking them.” You would no longer be allowed to text such information to other people. Your private conversations would be controlled by Joe Biden and the Democrats. “The Biden administration considers censorship applicable to private speech,” said Carlson.

To add insult to injury, we have a new development that frankly is beyond my comprehension. The president has created an information czar to spy on American citizens. Biden is establishing what he calls the Disinformation Governance Board as part of the Department of Homeland Security. Its purpose, said DHS Director Alejandro Mayorkas, is “to identify individuals who could be descending into violence by reason of ideologies of hate, false narratives, or other disinformation and misinformation propagated on social media and other platforms.”

Tucker Carlson summed it up perfectly. “They are using law enforcement powers to identify and punish people who think the wrong thing,” Carlson said. “That would be opponents of the Biden administration. Joe Biden’s partisan political enemies are now officially enemies of the state.” In other words, DHS will be looking to punish conservatives who have not committed a crime—but could do so in the future.

Critics are comparing the Disinformation Governance Board to the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984. “We live in terrifying times,” said journalist Sara Carter. “That’s what you do to an enemy. It’s not what you do to the American people.” Charles Hurt of the Washington Times warns that “If Democrats and Republicans in Congress are not terrified by this and doing everything they can to stop it, then we’re done—we’re finished.”

Biden’s Ministry of Truth will be listening to your phone calls and emails, and monitoring your social media posts as they do in China. No private communication of prohibited ideas will be allowed. If you say anything critical of the Biden/Harris administration, you could wind up in Guantanamo. Will Congress be able to stop this? Not this do-nothing Congress. Active resistance may come from the 75 million people who voted for Trump. Shutting down a minority is one thing, but canceling 75 million voters is something else entirely.

“This is not just an attack on free speech,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins. “This is an attack on an entire movement of people with the intent of driving them underground—keeping them from getting jobs, having legal representation, and even cutting them off from legitimate financial transactions.”

“They're as far left as Lenin,” said political commentator Dan Bongino. “Do liberals not grasp how totalitarian this is?” Once the door is open, we can kiss free speech goodbye. If we can’t acknowledge that there are two sides to every story, the U.S. is well on the way to becoming a totalitarian state. It starts with accusations of spreading disinformation and ends with a call for purging conservatives and sending their children to indoctrination camps. “If liberty means anything at all,” said George Orwell, “it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”

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May 2, 2022 18:06:51   #
Bevvy
 
woodguru wrote:
It just does, and it conjures up so many images of all the worst Nazi, Communist, socialist stuff...

And it is...government is going to spy on us with this disinformation board, it's a ministry of truth, they will start torturing people that want the truth.

Meanwhile for a dose of the less scary truth, the reality is that we will be dealing with openness and transparency being shined on disinformation, misinformed people are making this country look like a dangerous bunch of gun toting morons that can tell facts from world class Russian rhetoric and propaganda.

Apparently the government needs to step in and do something about harmful lies.
It just does, and it conjures up so many images of... (show quote)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqYK_g23z6I

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