Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Wow, I could just say look it up yourself, but because it's Sunday, I'll help you.

Here's another:

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarch-deaths-suicide-gas-exec-fled-igor-volobuev-vladislav-avaev-sergey-protosenya-1701373

Is that sufficient?

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Russians that criticize Putin or those that Putin feels agent loyal? I posted a could links. Here's one to Newsweek.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarch-deaths-suicide-gas-exec-fled-igor-volobuev-vladislav-avaev-sergey-protosenya-1701373

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I understand Russia supplies more than a third of Europe's gas…

Germany says it's ready to stop buying Russian oil, paving the way for the EU to impose a full embargo… It is an attempt to circumvent European sanctions and to blackmail the European Union…It is or its shrewd strategy. Russia needs the money from its energy exports more than ever, given the havoc sanctions have wreaked on others parts of its economy... What better way???

I think Russia has to honor their decree and Existing contracts that do not include an obligation to pay in rubles which has to be honored? Yet its war so everythibg changes… Those purchasing gas and oil from Russia are certainly taking note of the hostage situation they find themselves in and while they impact need Russias’ gas and oil you can bet they’re working on alternatives as well…

I read that Russian gas was still flowing westwards on two of the three main pipelines noting Germany had cut off Nord Stream project.... China not so happy about that either.. Forget there’s still these Iberia natural gas pipeline going full function. Supposedly the Kremlin said payments for gas being delivered now would fall due towards the end of the month or the beginning of May, which is why Russia hadn't immediately shut off the flow of gas to Europe…

I honestly don’t know if Germany is still getting gas from Russia, in the future at least.. Based on what’s going on with the rejection of the ruble payment that was made., who knows??? I haven’t read anything that say Germany has been cut off, to the contrary supposedly they were working on “talks “ to rectified whatever ??

Germany gets 55 percent of its natural gas and 35 percent of its oil and about half its coal from Russia. But they have also been working on reducing those percentages last year??

The problem with an embargo, from Germany’s perspective, is that it would not last for days, it would last months or even years while the war continues with no offsets in sight.

“Even without an embargo, Title Transfer Facility (TTF) natural gas prices in the Netherlands are already up to $41.06 per 1,000 cubic feet as Russia’s invasion wears on, compared to $4.80 per 1,000 cubic feet for U.S.-produced natural gas here. Prices would be even higher in Europe with the embargo… “Just may bring more countries to us for our natural gas supply which I understand is plentiful... This is what I meant about the world is changing as are the allies with all recognizing their need for more self sufficiency and self dependency. As if that wasn’t obvious to begin with but apparently not????

An interesting article~

Wang for Russia-China-India gas pipeline
Monday, 21 March 2022 | Rakesh K Singh | New Delhi


In the shifting geopolitical landscape post the Russia-Ukraine crisis, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi is likely to propose a Russia-China-India (RCI) oil/gas pipeline project during his upcoming New Delhi visit later this month.

The move is said to have been formulated in response to the US sanctions against Moscow not only hitting the economic interests and businesses of Russia but also hitting India and China hard, top sources privy to the development said.

The possible proposition of the RCI Pipeline project comes in the backdrop of the Tajikistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) Pipeline not taking off due to security risks posed by a destabilised Kabul and the perennial anti-India stance of Islamabad.

The TAPI has been under discussion for nearly three decades. However, India is unlikely to go ahead with any such proposal without gaugi..

https://www.dailypioneer.com/2022/india/wang-for

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank you, does seen very not so Coincidental at all.!!

You have peaked my interest and now I need to go and search what the article you gave me leads too..

chuckybrass

Respectfully, I disagree. The U. S. Dollar, although a bit tarnished, is still the only consistent means of monetary transfer in the world. That may change down the road, but for now, the buck is still king.

federally indicted mattoid

They are that far from civility.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

The operative words are "for now". I agree the dollar is still the world's strongest currency, but the seeds of it's destruction have been planted, and watered.

son of witless

President Biden has botched the management of the Russian-Ukrainian war badly. Since you and I will not agree on the right and wrong of the war and who is to blame, I merely wish to comment on the tactical situation.

Biden wished to punish Putin by blocking as much Russian energy sales to the World and mostly to the West, as possible. So how would he do that ? Well increasing American oil and natural gas production and selling it on the world market is the obvious choice, but since Biden is so beholding to the Green Idiots, that is not an option.

Option two is to call up America's good buddies, the Saudis and have them vastly increase production to make up for some of the Russian shortfall on the world markets. That ain't going to work because Saudi Arabia is angry at the US for cozying up to their mortal enemy Iran.

Lets us look at it from Vlad's viewpoint. In the short and midterm horizons, his economy seems to be holding up well enough for him to continue to reduce Ukrainian cities to ruble, and kill Ukrainians for the foreseeable future.

Longer term, his strategy of permanently hooking Western Europe on the narcotic of Russian energy, while they play with their wind machines and solar panels, is in a shambles.

Then there is China. I have been utterly shocked that China has not taken more advantage of the chaos from the Russia-Ukraine War. That tells me that the Chinese leadership is preoccupied with their own internal problems.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Exactly correct Putin is right this moment trying to change the standard currency transaction and exchange by demanding rubels so the American dollar is driven down and ultimately break our economic hold on trade using the American dollar for most purchases around the world…

Of course we’ve been hearing this since we converted from gold to the Petro Dollar anyway. But yes it is in motion and there are those that are trying and eventually it may come about it’s just not right now…

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

I think it is a heavy lift for China to purchase gas from Russia. The pipe line used to transport gas to Europe was already built. The Russians would have to build one to get the gas to China.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

That’s what the Nordstrom pipeline is all about. The undersea pipeline directly links Russian gas to Europe via Germany and is complete but not yet operating. It has become a major target as Western governments try to exert leverage on Russia to deter further military moves against its neighbor… natural gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea, running from Russia to Germany's Baltic coast.

It runs parallel to an earlier Nord Stream pipeline and would double its capacity, to 110 billion cubic meters of gas a year. It means Gazprom can send gas to Europe's pipeline system without using existing pipelines running through Ukraine and Poland.

The pipeline has been filled with gas but had been awaiting approval by Germany and the European Commission.

son of witless

In some ways the old cold war world is being put back together. The Communist World will trade more within itself and the West will only indirectly trade with Russia. It will hurt both sides. Russia's energy trade with Europe was more cost effective than selling to China, but if it wants to continue warring in Ukraine it will have to sell it's oil and gas somewhere. Building a line to China will be expensive and time consuming, but they can do it if they want to.

At some point the war must end. Afterward I wonder how long the West can do without Russian energy ?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Russia is allowing European companies to pay in Euro's...It is then converting the Euro's to Rubles...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

How?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

They pay Gazpram in Euro's...
Gazpram converts the Euro's into rubles...

They don't want to prop up the Ruble, so they are insisting that payments should continue to European banks... But those banks are part of SWIFT so Russia would have no access to the payments....