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Apr 5, 2022 13:12:17   #
American Vet
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
2bitap, I certainly am willing to make sacrifices, and do whatever it takes to stop global warming. You don't know it yet, but so will you. Global warming is a genuine existential threat. It is happening right now all over the world. If we don't stop it, global warming will eventually cause massive extinction of ALL life on the planet. It will continue to get worse until it is stopped.


You may be willing to give 'it' up - but will the rest of the world? China, India, and Russia - I bet not. And if we ruin our economy and essentially destroy America by suddenly going with the "Greenies" plans, it won't have that much of an impact on the climate.

It is foolish to think that America alone can stop "global warming".

And, as a side note, leftoids have been predicting the 'end of humanity' for the last 50 years - and they have been consistently wrong.

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Apr 5, 2022 13:16:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
2bitap, I certainly am willing to make sacrifices, and do whatever it takes to stop global warming. You don't know it yet, but so will you. Global warming is a genuine existential threat. It is happening right now all over the world. If we don't stop it, global warming will eventually cause massive extinction of ALL life on the planet. It will continue to get worse until it is stopped.


You ACTUALLY believe that bullshit? Newsflash: Climate change has been happening since pre-Cambrian times. Did you know the temperature is rising on Mars, also? You'd better tell those Martians to watch their greenhouse gases. Are you aware that 2000 years ago it was warmer than today? Yep. Fruit orchards and vineyards thrived in areas that are currently too cold for them to grow now. Cherry picked temperature readings from places designed to give a false impression.
Are there any facts that are extremely scary to know?
In 1997, 14 year old Nathan Zohner presented his science fair project to his classmates, seeking to ban a highly dangerous chemical from its everyday use.

The chemical in question? Dihydrogen monoxide.

Throughout his presentation, Zohner provided his audience scientifically correct evidence as to why this chemical should be banned.

He explained that dihydrogen monoxide:

Can cause severe burns while it’s in gas form
Corrodes and rusts metal
Kills countless people annually
Is commonly found in tumors, acid rain, etc.
Causes excessive urination and bloating if consumed
Zohner also noted that the chemical is able to kill you if you depend on it and then experience an extended withdrawal.

He then asked his classmates if they actually wanted to ban dihydrogen monoxide.

And so 43 out of the 50 children present voted to ban this obviously unsafe chemical.

However…this chemical isn’t typically considered toxic at all.

In fact, dihydrogen monoxide is simply an unconventional name for water.

Nathan Zohner’s experiment wasn’t a legitimate attempt to ban water, but instead an experiment to get a representation of how gullible people can really be.

Also, all of the points that Zohner used to convey his point were 100% factually correct; he just skewed all of the information in his favor by omitting certain facts.

One journalist eventually dubbed this event as ‘Zohnerism’, where true facts are used to mislead people towards false conclusions.

And this occurs a lot more often than you think, especially when politicians, journalists, etc., use proven facts to persuade people into believing false claims.

The fact that people can mislead, and be misled so easily, is highly unsettling.

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Apr 5, 2022 14:20:58   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
You ACTUALLY believe that bullshit? Newsflash: Climate change has been happening since pre-Cambrian times. Did you know the temperature is rising on Mars, also? You'd better tell those Martians to watch their greenhouse gases. Are you aware that 2000 years ago it was warmer than today? Yep. Fruit orchards and vineyards thrived in areas that are currently too cold for them to grow now. Cherry picked temperature readings from places designed to give a false impression.
Are there any facts that are extremely scary to know?
In 1997, 14 year old Nathan Zohner presented his science fair project to his classmates, seeking to ban a highly dangerous chemical from its everyday use.

The chemical in question? Dihydrogen monoxide.

Throughout his presentation, Zohner provided his audience scientifically correct evidence as to why this chemical should be banned.

He explained that dihydrogen monoxide:

Can cause severe burns while it’s in gas form
Corrodes and rusts metal
Kills countless people annually
Is commonly found in tumors, acid rain, etc.
Causes excessive urination and bloating if consumed
Zohner also noted that the chemical is able to kill you if you depend on it and then experience an extended withdrawal.

He then asked his classmates if they actually wanted to ban dihydrogen monoxide.

And so 43 out of the 50 children present voted to ban this obviously unsafe chemical.

However…this chemical isn’t typically considered toxic at all.

In fact, dihydrogen monoxide is simply an unconventional name for water.

Nathan Zohner’s experiment wasn’t a legitimate attempt to ban water, but instead an experiment to get a representation of how gullible people can really be.

Also, all of the points that Zohner used to convey his point were 100% factually correct; he just skewed all of the information in his favor by omitting certain facts.

One journalist eventually dubbed this event as ‘Zohnerism’, where true facts are used to mislead people towards false conclusions.

And this occurs a lot more often than you think, especially when politicians, journalists, etc., use proven facts to persuade people into believing false claims.

The fact that people can mislead, and be misled so easily, is highly unsettling.
You i ACTUALLY /i believe that bullshit? Newsfla... (show quote)




I remember seeing a video many years ago of Penn Gillette (of Penn & Teller) at an environmentalist fair/show. He was getting all the greeny sheople to sign a petition to ban di-hydrogen monoxide. Hilarious stuff

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Apr 5, 2022 14:24:07   #
MidnightRider
 
2bltap wrote:
Nancy Pelosi Thinks Democrats Are "SAVING" The Planet | Huckabee:

There is no way at this point to completely stop the use of fossil fuels with any type of green energy.
Mike

https://youtu.be/vGfxnGWIu2w


Thanks for the laugh. No there isn't. Greenies will hate it but cranes use fossil fuels to dig out lithium for the batteries EVs use Mike. Price prohibitive batteries I might add. Are the batteries recyclable? Not really. Just as the batteries we have now are forever leaking toxic acid, guess what lithium batteries do only at an advanced rate. Also windmills don't work because unless there is wind. And what are you going to do with the used up blades? Recycle? Impossible. Bury, maybe, there is a field outside Paris, France. Otherwise you're stuck. Same thing with solar panels and the battery packs. So have fun.

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Apr 5, 2022 14:29:19   #
guzzimaestro
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
2bitap, I certainly am willing to make sacrifices, and do whatever it takes to stop global warming. You don't know it yet, but so will you. Global warming is a genuine existential threat. It is happening right now all over the world. If we don't stop it, global warming will eventually cause massive extinction of ALL life on the planet. It will continue to get worse until it is stopped.


Nothing you or any human can do will stop it foul wind

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Apr 5, 2022 14:34:29   #
WEBCO
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
2bitap, I certainly am willing to make sacrifices, and do whatever it takes to stop global warming. You don't know it yet, but so will you. Global warming is a genuine existential threat. It is happening right now all over the world. If we don't stop it, global warming will eventually cause massive extinction of ALL life on the planet. It will continue to get worse until it is stopped.


Anthropomorphic climate change is a total lie. It's a money scam, always has been, always will be.

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Apr 5, 2022 16:56:58   #
Ricktloml
 
American Vet wrote:
You may be willing to give 'it' up - but will the rest of the world? China, India, and Russia - I bet not. And if we ruin our economy and essentially destroy America by suddenly going with the "Greenies" plans, it won't have that much of an impact on the climate.

It is foolish to think that America alone can stop "global warming".

And, as a side note, leftoids have been predicting the 'end of humanity' for the last 50 years - and they have been consistently wrong.
You may be willing to give 'it' up - but will the ... (show quote)




Global warming is NOT science. The alarmists have changed their predictions from global cooling/warming for decades. And they have been proven WRONG with EVERY prediction. You would think after decades they could get I thing right, but they can't, because it is all a lie.


The UN's IPPC official Otto Edenhofer was quoted: "we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy" he added:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that climate policy is environmental policy. It has almost nothing to do with environmental policy"

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Apr 5, 2022 16:58:35   #
guzzimaestro
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Global warming is NOT science. The alarmists have changed their predictions from global cooling/warming for decades. And they have been proven WRONG with EVERY prediction. You would think after decades they could get I thing right, but they can't, because it is all a lie.


The UN's IPPC official Otto Edenhofer was quoted: "we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy" he added:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that climate policy is environmental policy. It has almost nothing to do with environmental policy"
Global warming is NOT science. The alarmists have ... (show quote)


...and everything to do with political policy

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Apr 5, 2022 17:48:55   #
American Vet
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Global warming is NOT science. The alarmists have changed their predictions from global cooling/warming for decades. And they have been proven WRONG with EVERY prediction. You would think after decades they could get I thing right, but they can't, because it is all a lie.


The UN's IPPC official Otto Edenhofer was quoted: "we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy" he added:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that climate policy is environmental policy. It has almost nothing to do with environmental policy"
Global warming is NOT science. The alarmists have ... (show quote)


Here’s the link if interested.

https://www.nationalreview.com/planet-gore/ipcc-climate-policy-redistributing-worlds-wealth-greg-pollowitz/

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Apr 5, 2022 20:51:10   #
teabag09
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Can we just give up burning it?


How do you heat your house? How do you do your shopping for food and clothing? What are your clothes and meds made of? How about your kitchen stuff, stoves, microwaves, containers, your wife's cosmetics etc, etc, much less how you are able to go pick all of that stuff up. To add to that, when you get your electric car, where in the heck do you think you'll be recharging your car from? FOSSIL FUELS idiot! Mike

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Apr 5, 2022 20:53:57   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
2bltap wrote:
Nancy Pelosi Thinks Democrats Are "SAVING" The Planet | Huckabee:

There is no way at this point to completely stop the use of fossil fuels with any type of green energy.
Mike

https://youtu.be/vGfxnGWIu2w


No; however, they are willing for everybody else to do without.

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Apr 5, 2022 20:57:34   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
2bitap, I certainly am willing to make sacrifices, and do whatever it takes to stop global warming. You don't know it yet, but so will you. Global warming is a genuine existential threat. It is happening right now all over the world. If we don't stop it, global warming will eventually cause massive extinction of ALL life on the planet. It will continue to get worse until it is stopped.



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Apr 5, 2022 21:03:08   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
teabag09 wrote:
How do you heat your house? How do you do your shopping for food and clothing? What are your clothes and meds made of? How about your kitchen stuff, stoves, microwaves, containers, your wife's cosmetics etc, etc, much less how you are able to go pick all of that stuff up. To add to that, when you get your electric car, where in the heck do you think you'll be recharging your car from? FOSSIL FUELS idiot! Mike
Idiot?

Seems to me that is discussion killing insult.

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Apr 5, 2022 21:29:06   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Idiot?

Seems to me that is discussion killing insult.


You never discuss anything. Most of the time you respond with a truncated sentence, a single word, or an icon.

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Apr 5, 2022 21:51:56   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You never discuss anything. Most of the time you respond with a truncated sentence, a single word, or an icon.
I do like brevity.

Would you really want me to be long winded Tucker?

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