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Meaning?

Ve'hoe

Pursuit of happiness..... and success "liberty" freedom from the oppression of the world, of the wicked, and of "poverty" both of finance, as well as poverty of the soul,,, which you are exhibiting now,,

Ecclesiastes 3:12-13

I perceived that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live; also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil—this is God's gift to man.


Psalm 1:1-6
Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;


John 14:1

“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me.


Psalm 34:8
Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good! Blessed is the man who takes refuge in him!


"your trouble" with inalienable rights given by god, is that you truly don't believe in him,, you taint your scripture, with your wordly views,,, you have to purge the worldly word,,,, knowing who the prince of this world is, all your works then are "filthy rags"

Ve'hoe

No,,,, your attack on Christianity, and inalienable rights under god, was the attack...

You aren't being attacked, you attacked, and are being a typical hornhead, to defend your lack of belief,,,,

you are insulting, you make adhominem attacks and then pretend offense and becry being insulted...

What good will biblical proof do, when you don't believe in it anyway??? Your doctrine, is not scriptural, it is Marxist or something else, that struck a chord with you,,, you need to turn away from the garbage in your doctrine of belief...



Rights bestowed by god:

Galatians 5:1

For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

Hebrews 11:1-40

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation. By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks. By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God.

2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.


Romans 13:1
For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

Psalm 32:9
Be not like a horse or a mule, without understanding, which must be curbed with bit and bridle, or it will not stay near you.

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

Excuse me please what is DOI?

Ve'hoe

Where was it?? In one of mine??

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

Hear This … Ecclesiastes 10:2-3
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is"

Hungry Freaks

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What my Bible says for Ecclesiastes, 10; 1-5 is:

"Dead flies make the perfumer's sweet ointment turn rancid and ferment; to can a little folly make wisdom lose its worth. The mind of the wise man faces right, but the mind of the fool faces left. Even when he walks along the road, the fool shows no sense and calls everyone else a fool. If your ruler breaks out in anger against you, do not resign your post; submission makes amends for great mistakes. There is an evil that I have observed here under the sun, an error for which a ruler is responsible: the fool given high office, but the great and rich and humble post. "

Stupid is not a word that translate in ancient Hebrew or Greek.

As far as "God given rights not scriptural" it depends on whether one is talking Old Testament or New Testament.

the first four books of the OT is the Torah, literally the law, much like the Koran, a blueprint for spiritual and civil society.

The New Testament has nothing to do with civil society. It is purely about spiritual matters. "Not of this world" is how Jesus Christ stated it.

"Natural Laws" spoke of by the Founding Fathers were as much a product of the Enlightenment as they were of the New Testament.

There is little, if anything, in the NT that speaks about how civil society should be run. It all has to do with your soul, not your body, The Father's world, not the temporal.

Hungry Freaks

PS:

the terms "left" and "right" in the political sense, date to the late 18th Century in the French Assembly.

The opponents of the king and the status quo-the liberals- sat to the left of the speaker's podium while the supporters of the king and the status quo, or the conservatives, sat on the right.

source: Oxford Dictionary of Political Language.

Both the right and left hands of God are holy places. Any such language in the Bible doesn't point to political leaning.

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

The New American Standard translation most certainly does use the word "stupid"

Hungry Freaks

I use King James or Oxford translations. "stupid" means fool, so I guess it's the same. It just doesn't seem to fit after 65 years of the King James translation.

Hungry Freaks

Watch vehole. He insults as soon as you disagree.

And get this-he claims to have been a "foot soldier" in the marines, gotten out, gone to medical school, built a "successful medical practice before going back to the marines to be trained as a fixed wing and helicopter pilot where he said he served "all my time on the front lines."

Does that sound like a bs story or what?

Wouldn't even bother asking him how he did this until he started claiming, in the most insulting way possible, that I wasn't drafted into the marines, gone to Vietnam (1968-69,) and received a commendation for valor during my tour. He hammered away until I suggested putting it before the Marine League to act as a third party. And he won't go for it.

This was after calling me a drunkard, drug addict and "old man with cobwebs in his brain" the last almost true.

Remember, if you disagree with I'm, you're likely to get the same treatment.

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

How can you use a "political dictionary"to define Scripture?
The New International version of the Bible most certainly does use the word"stupid" whereas the New American Standard does not.
If you were to look in Strongs complete Hebrew and Greek-English dictionary of Old and New Testament words you would find these words used in translation of the word FOOL.
FOOL: silly, stupid,impious, heedless, moral blockhead,to be insane.
FOOLISH: brutishness,stupidity, to boast, moral wickidness, crime, unintelligent , senseless, dull, ignorant, egotistic, to become insipid.
Now as to your statement that the Scripture only deals with the soul and not civil matters, I believe you may want to read a bit more Scripture both Old and New Testament.

Ve'hoe

No, he doesnt have anything to worry about,,, just liars who claim they won a Silver Star for valor,,,which is "provable."
Silver stars are public record, and I pulled ALL of them, as well as a FOIA request for the 9th Marines during the time you were in....that is why I dont need your citation, which has now changed from a silver star to a commendation for valor,,,,

Here is the rest, he can decide:
Your quotes: You have stated before:
"I was in the 1/9, Walking Dead (First Battalion 9th Marines)"

"I was wounded in the A Shau Valley in February 1969 where the 9th marines attacked, took every objective we were ordered to and left it for the NVA to re-occupy within weeks, if not days. I still have less than full function of my left hand and shrapnel in my left arm and body from where a Chinese potato masher grenade landed near me and my platoon leader and I attempted to throw it back. I also have a Silver Star for that act of of desperate survival instinct."

"Even Dennis knows how to make a point-he corrected me on what year Vietnam had the most KIAs, albeit with an insult thrown in for good measure. . I was only there for a little less than two months in 1969 so I guess it was a mistake to think it was as bad the entire 12. Thanks Dennis. "



You told a story about getting a Silver Star for saving your commander from a grenade in the fighting hole you were in, during the A-shau Valley campaign with the 9th marines,,,, I pulled the Operations Sitrep, and all the Silver star Citations for that time, in fact all of the citations, for Vietnam, describing your "purported action" and you cannot select which redacted citation is yours,,,, the end.



Here they are again,,, your old quotes, and the citations, just pick which one is you,,,,,,,,,.

You claimed to be in the 1st Battalion 9th marines, That is VERY SPECIFIC,, in the A-shau valley, a fight in which casualties were horrific. The fight with the 9th marines in the ashau valley took place January 22 through March 18, 1969, so if you were wounded and only stayed a few months, you could have been there, could have done that.

I have reviewed "ALL" the Silver Star Citations for Vietnam,,, here are the only 7 describing action the likes of which you claim.

I'm not saying you didnt, but there is ZERO proof,,, and the story you laid out, would be provable. Either it didnt happen, or didnt happen the way you said,,either way, it isnt fair that you bust the nuts of other vets, when you have a checkered past.

I submitted a FOIA request and got the actual 1/9 After Action reports from the A-shau battle, and began to notice the holes in your story.

None of this would have been necessary, except for the abuse I have seen HF heap on younger, less experienced vets, but everyone, that encounters him gets the same, "something isnt right" gut reaction.

I started digging, and found the Walking Dead.org (what the First BN 9th Marines are called. They hunt down wannabes,, who build their reputations and sometimes careers, on lies of stolen valor.

Some of these awards, like the silver star, are illegal to wear, and I would assume that the reason the VA is short on money, as well as so many Veterans "benefits" are so scarce and hard to obtain is because of all the liars and charletons....Well,,, not quite true, but what is about you? A Silver star, not given for "just being there" there has to be conspicuous gallantry, like you describe,,, If, a Marine did as you claim, it was so noted in the citation, because that type of heroism is rare.

The fight with the 9th marines in the ashau valley took place January 22 through March 18, 1969, so if you were wounded and only stayed a few months, you could have been there, could have done that.



I have reviewed ALL the Silver Star Citations for Vietnam,,, here are the only 7 describing action the likes of which you claim.

Pick which one is you....names redacted for your sake,,, just pick which one is you..

xxxxxx, RJ
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R J, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving in the Republic of Vietnam. XXXXXXXs unit was assigned the mission of aiding a Marine rifle company which was engaged with a numerically superior force of North Vietnamese Army Regulars. Disregarding his own safety, XXXXXXX unhesitatingly volunteered to lead a rescue detail forward of friendly lines to evacuate casualties and assist other Marines who were temporarily separated from their units. While maneuvering across the hazardous terrain, the rescue team came under increasingly heavy small-arms and automatic weapons fire and was forced to take cover in a nearby shell hole. As the Marines delivered effective return fire, an enemy hand grenade landed in the crater. Reacting instantly, XXXXXXX ignored the danger to himself, picked up the deadly grenade and threw it out of the crater where it exploded. Although painfully wounded by grenade fragments, he continued to direct his unit's return fire and, when superiority was gained, led his men in the search for casualties. After supervising the evacuation of several wounded comrades, he observed an enemy mortar delivering fire against Marine positions. Deploying his men, he skillfully led them against the hostile emplacement and quickly silenced the enemy mortar and a nearby machine gun position. Subsequently, he directed the withdrawal of his men to friendly lines and assisted in consolidating the defensive perimeter. His heroic and timely actions in the face of great personal danger were an inspiration to all who observed him and undoubtedly saved the lives of several fellow Marines. By his courage, outstanding professionalism and selfless devotion to duty, XXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Pine Beach, New Jersey

XXXXXXXXX, A A.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to A A. XXXXXXXXX , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, during Operation Purple Martin near fire support base Neville in XXXXXXXXX Province, XXXXXXXXX patrol was preparing to provide security for the eastern flank of the company when his Marines came under a heavy volume of small arms fire and hand grenade attack. Observing that a hostile machine gun emplacement was preventing the advance of his men, XXXXXXXXX completely disregarded his own safety as he rushed across the fire-swept terrain and, armed only with a grenade and a pistol, aggressively assaulted and destroyed the enemy position. As he fearlessly moved toward a second objective, he was seriously wounded and knocked to the ground by small arms fire. Steadfastly determined to continue his attack, he was resolutely attempting to rise when he was wounded by the detonation of a hostile explosive device. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in his company's subsequent defeat of the enemy. By his courage, bold initiative and unwavering devotion to duty, XXXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the accomplishment of his unit's mission and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.


Home Town: Baldwin, New York
XXXXXXXXX, RD.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to R D. XXXXXXXXX Private First Class, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as an Assistant Machine Gunner, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 28 July 1969, Company K was occupying a night defensive position approximately three miles northwest of XXXXXXXXX. Suddenly, the Marines came under heavy ground attack by a large North Vietnamese Army force utilizing mortars, automatic weapons, and rocket-propelled grenades. During the initial moments of the firefight, a hostile rocket-propelled grenade exploded in Private First Class XXXXXXXXX s fighting position, seriously wounding him and his two companions. After dragging his comrades to a position of relative safety, he boldly shielded them from further injuries with his own body and commenced delivering effective M-60 machine gun fire at the enemy. Alertly observing several hostile soldiers who were attempting to destroy nearby tanks with hand grenades, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX delivered such accurate fire with his weapon that the enemy soldiers were forced to abandon their mission. When the hostile unit turned its attention to his machine gun position, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX, completely disregarding his own painful wound, resolutely maintained his exposed position and continued to fire at the enemy until reinforcements arrived. His heroic and timely actions and sincere concern for the welfare of his fellow man inspired all who observed him. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty in the face of extreme personal danger, Private First Class XXXXXXXXX contributed significantly to the subsequent defeat of the North Vietnamese Army force and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.


Home Town: Calvin, Oklahoma
XXXXXXXXX, F M.
Citation:The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to F M. XXXXXXXXX , U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 19 March 1969, the Battalion Command Post at Phu Lac came under an intense ground attack from approximately two hundred enemy sappers who were supported by rockets and mortars. Reacting instantly, XXXXXXXXX was rushing to his defensive position adjacent to the mess hall when he observed six hostile soldiers who had penetrated the defensive wire and were moving toward the command bunker. Realizing the seriousness of the situation, he fearlessly moved between the enemy and the command bunker and began delivering rifle fire upon the soldiers who were firing at him. After killing one hostile soldier and forcing the others to take cover XXXXXXXXX continued firing his rifle as he attempted to reach a fighting trench, but was knocked to the ground by the explosion of an enemy grenade. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in preventing the destruction of the Battalion Command Bunker. By his courage, aggressive fighting spirit and selfless devotion to duty, XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Montgomery, Alabama

XXXXXXXXX, W G.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to W G. XXXXXXXXX , Lance Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Company K, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division, in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. Operation MEADE RIVER, Company K was occupying a night defensive position when XXXXXXXXX, alertly observed a hostile soldier throwing a hand grenade into the perimeter. When the grenade impacted just a few inches from the head of a sleeping Marine, XXXXXXXXX, fully aware that it might explode at any instant, unhesitatingly left his relative safe position and rushed to pick up the lethal object. Fearlessly hurling the grenade at the retreating enemy, XXXXXXXXX was wounded when it detonated immediately after leaving his hand. His heroic actions and sincere concern for the welfare of a companion inspired all who observed him and prevented a serious injury or possible death of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.


Home Town: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

XXXXXXXXX, D F.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting of the Silver Star Medal to DF. XXXXXXXXX Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Fire Team Leader Company L, First Battalion, Ninth Marines, Third Marine Division in connection with operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam While occupying a night defensive position , company L came under a heavy volume of artillery and recoilless rifle fire supporting ground assault by a large North Vietnamese Army force. A friendly listening post, which had sustained a casualty during the initial moments of the firefight, was returning to the perimeter. Upon learning about the situation, Corporal XXXXXXXXX, then a Lance Corporal fearlessly exposed himself to enemy fire as he maneuvered across the hazardous terrain to assist the wounded mean. Alertly observing an enemy hand grenade land dangerously close to his position, Corporal XXXXXXXXX unhesitatingly threw his body across that of his wounded comrade, shielding him from further injury. Although painfully wounded by the exploding hostile grenade, Corporal XXXXXXXXX resolutely returned to his Fire Team and continued to direct his men in the defense of his sector of the company perimeter until directly ordered to withdraw for treatment of his wounds. His heroic and timely actions inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in saving the life of a fellow Marine. By his courage, bold initiative and steadfast devotion to duty in the face of great personal danger, Corporal XXXXXXXXX upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.


Home Town: St. Paul, Minnesota

XXXXXXXXX, M J.
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the Silver Star Medal to M J. XXXXXXXXX , Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Rifleman with Detachment, First Battalion, Ninth Marine Regiment, THIRD Marine Division, during operations against the enemy in Vietnam. Throughout the night, the Marines heard sounds of enemy activity. At dawn on 18 January, a numerically superior North Vietnamese Army patrol of approximately forty men was sighted moving toward their position. Corporal XXXXXXXXX quickly moved to his defensive position where he was observed by the approaching enemy. Demonstrating exceptional presence of mind, he warned his companions and immediately opened fire at the lead man of the North Vietnamese unit. His continued to bring effective fire to bear on the advancing enemy although wounded twice as the North Vietnamese moved to within fifteen meters of his position. Exhibiting exemplary courage and aggressive fighting spirit despite his painful wounds and the intense enemy fire directed at him, Corporal XXXXXXXXX maintained his position and halted the enemy's attempts to dislodge the flank security. When an enemy hand grenade landed within the patrol's defensive perimeter Corporal XXXXXXXXX, with complete disregard for his own safety, valiantly attempted to recover the grenade but was wounded. By his extraordinary courage, bold initiative, and selfless devotion to duty, Corporal XXXXXXXXX saved the lives of several Marines, inspired all those who observed him and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
Home Town: Norwalk, Connecticut

Ve'hoe

Just be a man, and pick which one is you,,, quit crying like a bitch to everyone to garner sympathy...with every quote you reinforce the impression of someone guilty of stolen valor..

semper-fi Loc: Corrupticut

Maybe not to political leaning but it still speaks to the mindset of a man whether he is morally upright or just another STUPID person that insists on going his own way. Proverbs "there is a way that seems right to a man but in the end leads to death"