Patty

"Oh, I get it-Obama speaks the enemy's language while Bush is as pure as the driven snow."
If you say so but don't put words in my mouth. You aren't qualified.

Hungry Freaks

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No words out of your mouth, but words off of your finger stories on the keyboard.

OK, the "Bush is as pure as the driven snow" is inferred. I've said all along that Obama is nothing but another member of the Bush Crime Family, as was Clinton.

Patty

and Ive said that Bush was the worst president ever till Obombya took office. So whats the problem?

Rufus Loc: Deep South

Bush was a good president. At least he believed in God.

Patty

Bush willingness to play his part in the quest for a NWO global hegemony with a lie resulted in the un necessary death of our people and the innocent people of another country. He should be in jail.
That is why he cant leave the country because he would be face a war crimes tribunal. Cheney had to cancel his trip to Toronto due to calls for his arrest.

Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq "1,455,590"

Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801

Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 3,453

Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,543,270,093,934

Hungry Freaks

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Thank you Patty- you're a righty, but one who at times looks past the rhetoric of the left and the right to cast an jaundiced eye on both sides of the fence.

In Bush is was incautious behavior, with Obama it's overly cautious. Both have a downside.

If you ever get a chance, unless you have read already, please try and read Carroll Quimbly's works on Cecil Rhodes and the arms merchants of Europe 1870-1914. Or Manchester's "The Arms of Krupp" about the German arms maker who helped push Europe into World Wars One and Two. The Swedish subsidiary of Krupp was one who sold arms to both sides throughout the entirety of World War Two. DuPont tried, but FDR had the feds throw the German scientists out of American plants where they were learning about the newest methods in making explosives.

Not much difference today except that DuPont has expanded to a truly global presence as the world's largest corporate polluter.

The multi-nationals know no national borders or fealty. Their fealty is only to maximum profits by any means necessary even if it results in massive human suffering.

And Congress, as well as the president, is in their pocket. No wonder our convoluted tax code hasn't been revised and simplified into a flat tax.

"Anyone capable of getting elected president shouldn't be allowed to hold the job." Douglas Adams.

Patty

I will check it out. I read about the massive amounts of chemical weapons we were producing in WW1 and the staggering amount of damage that Washington was ready to inflict on the world. " The Untold History of the United States " is a real eye opener also.

Hungry Freaks

Do you happen to know who wrote "The Untold History of the United States?"

I can probably find it anyway, but it looks like it could be the subject of more than one book, the extensive nature of the subject.

The winners always write history. And as long time victors, we've written our share of revisionist history. Thanks for the suggestion. Going on an extended vacation (at least 30 if not 60 days or more. My first summer vacation in many years-I love semi-retirement. I may just stay up there.) in Vermont in a few days-it looks like a great vacation read.

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Patty

Yes it was actually Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick. There is also a documentary on the book I want to see if I cant get on Amazon Fire.
I had to put it down the first time I started reading it because I didn't want to believe what I was reading about what we did in the Philipines to everyone over 10.

Hungry Freaks

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Thank you. I'll check it out.