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Will Russia recognize, and defend, the Independence of the Donetsk and Luhansk Republics?
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Feb 20, 2022 13:11:03
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Gatsby
Both declared themselves to be Independent Peoples Republics, in 2014.
Both are listed as terrorist organizations, by the Ukrainian government, and the UN has snubbed their noses at them.
So much for Self Determinization in the 21st century.
https://tass.com/world/731318
https://www.rbth.com/news/2014/05/12/donetsk_peoples_republic_declares_independence_and_requests_accession_to_36590.html
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Feb 20, 2022 19:24:49
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
Gatsby wrote:
Both declared themselves to be Independent Peoples Republics, in 2014.
Both are listed as terrorist organizations, by the Ukrainian government, and the UN has snubbed their noses at them.
So much for Self Determinization in the 21st century.
https://tass.com/world/731318
https://www.rbth.com/news/2014/05/12/donetsk_peoples_republic_declares_independence_and_requests_accession_to_36590.html
And the Kurds still don't have their nation
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Feb 20, 2022 19:45:28
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Gatsby
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And the Kurds still don't have their nation
An interesting comparison.
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Feb 20, 2022 19:50:47
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
Gatsby wrote:
An interesting comparison.
I could have brought up the Sioux as well
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Feb 21, 2022 00:56:06
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LogicallyRight
Loc: Chicago
Gatsby wrote:
Both declared themselves to be Independent Peoples Republics, in 2014.
Both are listed as terrorist organizations, by the Ukrainian government, and the UN has snubbed their noses at them.
So much for Self Determinization in the 21st century.
https://tass.com/world/731318
https://www.rbth.com/news/2014/05/12/donetsk_peoples_republic_declares_independence_and_requests_accession_to_36590.html
Well said and good points.
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Feb 21, 2022 00:57:18
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LogicallyRight
Loc: Chicago
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I could have brought up the Sioux as well
Weren't they promised the Black Hills?
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Feb 21, 2022 01:51:41
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
LogicallyRight wrote:
Weren't they promised the Black Hills?
They were promised their own nation
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Feb 21, 2022 18:11:02
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Gatsby
LogicallyRight wrote:
Weren't they promised the Black Hills?
The Sioux have no legitimate claim on the Black Hills, which they themselves "stole" from the Cheyenne tribe in 1776.
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Feb 21, 2022 18:37:04
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
Gatsby wrote:
The Sioux have no legitimate claim on the Black Hills, which they themselves "stole" from the Cheyenne tribe in 1776.
Unlike all the legitimate claims that the Europeans had to Sioux land
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Feb 21, 2022 20:48:01
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Bassman65
Gatsby wrote:
Both declared themselves to be Independent Peoples Republics, in 2014.
Both are listed as terrorist organizations, by the Ukrainian government, and the UN has snubbed their noses at them.
So much for Self Determinization in the 21st century.
Russia has recognized both of them!
https://tass.com/world/731318
https://www.rbth.com/news/2014/05/12/donetsk_peoples_republic_declares_independence_and_requests_accession_to_36590.html
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Feb 22, 2022 02:30:51
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Gatsby
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Unlike all the legitimate claims that the Europeans had to Sioux land
Might made right, until Europeans arrived.
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Feb 22, 2022 02:32:06
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
Gatsby wrote:
Might made right, until Europeans arrived.
And for several hundred years afterwards
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Feb 22, 2022 05:08:19
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Gatsby
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And for several hundred years afterwards
Perhaps the entire world should recognize, and restore, all borders as they were in 1492?
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Feb 22, 2022 05:14:06
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Canuckus Deploracus
Loc: North of the wall
Gatsby wrote:
Perhaps the entire world should recognize, and restore, all borders as they were in 1492?
Why not 1 AD
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Feb 22, 2022 19:22:04
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Gatsby
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Why not 1 AD
When one puts it in perspective,
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