RandyBrian wrote:
You answered in five paragraphs. I will take them in order.
First one: nothing to comment on.
Second and Third. As usual, you present very logical and reasonable arguments.....which support factually wrong conclusions. Figure it any way you want, the demonstrable fact IS that children are being photographed, molested, and even raped by people who either ARE or who are CLAIMING to be transgender.
Fourth paragraph. Yes, girls have wanted to be on boys teams going back for generations. That iis different. I was specifically talking about biogirls transgendering to male, and trying to compete in men's sports. They may be doing so, but I have not heard of any. That possibly may (or may not) add a little evidence to the possibility that bioboys are faking transgenderism to win trophies and scholarships by competing unfairly. Just a thought, not a conclusion.
And the fifth paragraph: You are again jumping to nonfactual conclusions. I do not limit myself to RW media. I watch as much of the LW media as I can stand, considering their now open and blatant bias, their obscuring pertinent information, and their outright lies. I treat ALL media the same. I look for news facts that can be verified, then strive to do so. I do not make it a habit to listen to opinions on either side, though I occasionally do so if a topic catches my attention. My opinions are my own, hard earned and tempered by 50 years of paying attention. to facts.
You answered in five paragraphs. I will take them... (
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I would be interested in, not SEEING these so called pictures, but evidence that they truly exist. I will have to extensively scour the internet for this evidence, again, not the actual pictures of course.
As for those born male "pretending" to identify as female to gain unfair advantage in women's sports The article I found Lia Thomas' women's 100 freestyle times from, you do realize that Lia lost that meet with a time of 52.84, Hardly the unfair advantage everyone is crying about when the best women's 100 freestyle time is 51.71, set by Sarah Sjostrom, a biological female... That is 1.13 BETTER than the time achieved by Lia in the meet Lia lost. The best time in Olympic women's 100 freestyle is 52.70, .14 better than Lia's time... Yeah, maybe not so much to worry about there, but I don't know, I COULD BE wrong though.
All that I am saying is this, perhaps these "boogeymen" that the RW is parading out there to frighten their base may just be nothing more than a smokescreen while they try to determine what platform they can run on that will stoke the base sufficiently well to put them back in power and RW media is quick to pile onto the latest "boogeyman" bandwagon and get the fear mongering into full swing to aid in the distraction. At least research these "boogeymen" before hyping them.
As for "LW media", I do not for a moment argue that there isn't media that may APPEAR to have a "LW bent", perhaps they DO have somewhat of a "LW bent", what I may argue is that they are putting forth articles/stories with KNOWN untruths, that do not at least appear to be factual and honest, even if left leaning, at least among MSM outlets. Same goes for SOME RW media, whether considered a MSM outlet or not. Other RW media, Fox, NewsMax and OANN included, they step so far out of line with the truth that they can ONLY be considered propagandists. Prime example, how about the latest scandal to rock those outlets? The John Durham report. All three of the aforementioned RW media outlets were screaming for all to hear how the left were spying on the Trump administration while Trump was in office... That simply wasn't true by any stretch of the imagination and even John Durham himself has come out debunking those lies. IF it were an honest mistake, where are the retractions?
People can say what they like and even I do not put complete faith in ANY media networks, even those under the banner of MSM, LW, RW, center... None, and ESPECIALLY fringe. The plain and simple truth is that for the most part, MSM tells the fewest fibs and even if they may be reticent to do so, they DO print/broadcast retractions if what they print/broadcast turns out to be false. Of course I do not consider Fox to be under the banner of MSM, they are far too fringe to be considered "Mainstream". Research Fox's history through ANY legitimate source and you will undoubtedly find that they have a well documented history of telling falsehoods. They are in fact embroiled currently in more than one lawsuit that they are destined to lose for defamation, and rightly so.
Note: While I disagree entirely with what RandyBrian is posting, I notice that in the body of my "arguments", I don't appear to be saying that he is wrong directly, at least not for the most part but I have taken notice to his comments in HIS posts such as, "Second and Third. As usual, you present very logical and reasonable arguments.....which support
factually wrong conclusions." and "And the fifth paragraph:
You are again jumping to nonfactual conclusions. I do not limit myself to RW media.", which both can be construed as personal attacks.
I will admit that in my previous post to him, there is ONE LINE, that MAY have been viewed as a personal attack on him or his beliefs, "
You are likely to find that RW media has led you quite astray.". That line is likely what resulted in the former of his two personal attacks on me, admittedly. When you look at what his beliefs are, they appear straight out of RW media. They fall entirely in line with the RW media's favored narratives where transgenders are involved. They do not appear to conform with reality. The reality IS that someone who truly identifies as, let's say a woman, if they are forced to use the men's room, guess what gender they likely prefer to sleep with... THAT IS reality. RW media will tell you, that sexual deviants are PRETENDING to identify as female to gain access to women's restrooms to, I don't know, get their freak on... While there may be a VERY limited number of perhaps ACTUAL cases of that, the majority of the time, the transgender wanting to use the restroom IS what they claim to be. Would you prefer 99 guys that identify as a woman standing at urinal troughs among you, your young sons, MAYBE checking out your, or your son's "package" or like 1 "pretender" in a ladies' room where EVERYONE is doing their "bathroom business" in stalls with doors? In the one scenario, they see NOTHING that is even remotely sexually interesting, in the other scenario, they see something that wouldn't interest us but they may decide to stash away in their memory for later in private, that or worse yet, take care of business right there and then, possibly with a young child being turned into an unwitting and unwilling victim. Remember, a biological male that TRULY feels they should have been born female, they likely are attracted to biological males and their genitalia and SOME may be deviants.
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RandyBrian wrote:
I do not limit myself to RW media.
Everyone should expose themselves to a variety of trustworthy and legitimate outlets
RandyBrian wrote:
I watch as much of the LW media as I can stand, considering their now open and blatant bias, their obscuring pertinent information, and their outright lies.
Interesting, you appear to have absolutely no issues with the lies of RW media but take issue with what you claim are the blatant lies of so called "LW media"? I don't know... We might just have to each post examples of media lies and engage in a "fact check off" where we do OUR OWN fact checking, see which media sources come out more truthful and factual... One thing is for certain, you will NOT like the results.
RandyBrian wrote:
I treat ALL media the same. I look for news facts that can be verified, then strive to do so.
If only you would. It is quite obvious that you don't even just in the previous quote.