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Feb 18, 2022 07:30:39   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
I like the MAGA caps, it makes the idiots easy to spot..

the only pol who comes from a real crime family is trump.. he is at least 3rd generation and facts back it up..

However, looking at trends, I do hope he does run again, so he gets fired again.. that I do find amusing.. and some other republicans may have some actual points to contend with..


You would never know we live in a democracy the way the country is headed under the tyrannical Demorat party. I never want to hear a Demorat talk about the right destroying our country as everyday now they take away more and more of our freedoms. Go ahead demorats mandate that jab and end up on that slab. Demorats are anti- freedom and anti-democratic to their core. The demorats could be called the Trudeaucrats. Soon they will be freezing your bank account if you don't bow down to them.

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Feb 18, 2022 07:40:14   #
Big Kahuna
 
336Robin wrote:
I'm with you on that. If he gets the nomination and now that there is a movement to extricate him from the party, I feel the votes to remove him would be there even if he were to win. He has to know this and him running is probably not going to happen but he'll grift the base until the last possible minute and that to me is equally beautiful. The Republicans end up sliced and diced and marinated.


I believe Putin has already made Russian Salad Dressing out of your demented, hair sniffing and sexually perverted leader, Slo Joe. If anyone is being sliced and diced and marinated like cole slaw just look no further than the inept Slo Joe and his party of perverts, felons, spys and treasonous individuals. Putin could be soon using the plutonium that Hitlery Rotten Clinton sold to him in exchange for Billy Bob's $$$$500,000 a pop speaking engagements to the Russians. Your party is so sick that being a Demorat nowadays is like calling yourselves all Beneduct Arnolds.. You are all traitors to our country.

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Feb 18, 2022 08:04:54   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Trump is not the story. The story is the felon Hitlery spying on Trump before he even got into office and even while in office and passing on and paying for the Russian Collusion hoax that all of our top alphabet agencies and elite demorats (bathhouse boy ovommit was in on it too) and corrupt media knew about while still trying to collude to take Trump down. Spygate is almost as bad as 9/11 and the Pearl Harbor bombing. This is so serious that hangings for treason should be televised for all to see. Let's get rid of these insurrectionists ASAP.
Trump is not the story. The story is the felon Hit... (show quote)


Well you see you actually think any of that is going to matter at this point so much that it will justify the lies and the treachery that Trumps done.

Perhaps the upcoming testimony before the NY AG where he's cheated on his taxes will change your mind when he throws his own children under the bus. That is coming you know.

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Feb 18, 2022 09:44:53   #
Godsncotrl
 
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Feb 18, 2022 13:17:30   #
Big Kahuna
 
336Robin wrote:
Well you see you actually think any of that is going to matter at this point so much that it will justify the lies and the treachery that Trumps done.

Perhaps the upcoming testimony before the NY AG where he's cheated on his taxes will change your mind when he throws his own children under the bus. That is coming you know.


I'm waiting like you were waiting for Mueller to find a speck of dirt on President Trump. He never did after all that time.

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Feb 18, 2022 13:38:55   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
336Robin wrote:
Well here it is. Him holding up the report stating his wealth stated by the firm that quit him after years of him providing dubious information for them to use in preparing his taxes. Such a surprise right?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-perilous-exclamation-point-years-125443612.html


The New York Times
For Trump, a Perilous Exclamation Point to Years of Wealth Inflation
Mike McIntire
Thu, February 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

Donald Trump holds up an accounting of his financial worth as he announces he is running for president at Trump Tower in New York, June 16, 2015. (Todd Heisler/The New York Times)

On Tuesday evening, former President Donald Trump, rattled by news that his longtime accountants had declared that years of his financial statements were not reliable, issued a statement of self-defense with new claims about his wealth.

These, too, did not add up.

In a rambling emailed message, Trump referred to a “June 30, 2014 Statement of Financial Condition” prepared by the accounting firm, Mazars USA, showing that the year before his first presidential run his net worth had been $5.8 billion. But that is not what he said back then.

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When he declared his candidacy in 2015, he produced what he called his “Summary of Net Worth as of June 30, 2014” with a very different number: $8.7 billion. A month later, he upped the ante, releasing a statement pronouncing that his “net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS.”

The shape-shifting valuations, even in the face of mounting legal peril with Mazars’ decision to sever ties and disavow its past financial statements, get to the core of a problem for Trump. He has spent a lifetime bending reality to his will, often making it up as he went along, inventing facts and figures to support his needs in the moment. In fact, in his Tuesday email he suggested the intangible value of the “Trump brand” was actually worth an extra $3 billion in 2014.

“My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” he testified in 2007 as part of his unsuccessful lawsuit over a book that suggested he was not really a billionaire.

Now, though, he faces multiple investigations that threaten to hold his questionable claims up to the light. In New York, two law enforcement inquiries are examining whether he fraudulently submitted overblown real estate valuations to secure loans. And in Georgia, a grand jury is looking into Trump’s attempts to pressure state officials to “find 11,780 votes” — his margin of defeat in 2020 in that battleground state — that he baselessly asserted had been stolen from him.

For Trump, such casual dalliances with inaccuracies and lies have long been central to his modus operandi, which he once famously described as “truthful hyperbole.” He has employed this “very effective form of promotion,” as he called it, to sell himself and build the brand that ultimately helped vault him to the White House.

Along the way, his puffery often came with unfortunate consequences for average people who could not distinguish truth from hyperbole. Yet for the most part, he avoided serious legal consequences, sometimes by paying to end lawsuits and, in at least one instance, stifle a criminal investigation.

After the success of the television show “The Apprentice” helped make Trump a household name in the early 2000s, he parlayed it into an ever-expanding assortment of branded products and services, from cologne and neckties to steaks and cellphone ringtones. There were promotional deals that generated millions of dollars for him but also lawsuits that made what came to be a familiar argument: that Trump’s hyperbole misled clients into losing money in various ways.

He lent his name to the multilevel marketing of vitamins, pitching it as “an exciting plan to opt out of the recession,” and sold unaccredited real estate seminars through his for-profit Trump University. The company behind the vitamin scheme soon went bankrupt, and people who paid as much as $35,000 for the seminars sued, claiming they were worthless, eventually resulting in a $25 million settlement as Trump was about to enter the White House.

Buyers of condominium units in Trump-branded projects in Mexico and Florida alleged that they had been duped into thinking Trump had an active role in them, when in fact he had merely licensed his name. And in New York, people who bought units in the Trump SoHo development in lower Manhattan claimed in court that Trump and his family had overstated the number of sales in the luxury building, damaging their investments.

Trump quietly settled that suit in 2011 — but on the condition that the plaintiffs notify criminal prosecutors looking into the exaggerated marketing of units that they no longer wished to cooperate. The criminal investigation, by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, was eventually dropped.

The current investigations in New York have proven a tougher challenge. The inquiry by the state attorney general, Letitia James, has obtained voluminous records covering years of financial transactions, documenting what appear to be misleading assertions by Trump or his representatives.

Among other things, according to court filings, Trump claimed his triplex penthouse apartment in Manhattan was 30,000 square feet, when in fact it was 11,000 square feet — inflating its supposed value by about $200 million. Similarly, the value of his estate in Westchester County was said to have been exaggerated by $61 million through the inclusion of seven nonexistent mansions.

Trump has railed against the investigations, calling them partisan “witch hunts” by Democrats, and has gone to court in bids to stop or slow them down. In his statement Tuesday, he also suggested that they were racially motivated — James and the newly elected Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, are Black — and that his accountants had been browbeaten into quitting.

“Mazars’ decision to withdraw was clearly a result of the AG’s and DA’s vicious intimidation tactics used — also on other members of the Trump Organization,” Trump said in his statement. “Mazars, who were scared beyond belief, in conversations with us made it clear that they were willing to do or say anything to stop the constant threat which has gone against them for years.”

He pointed out that, in its letter informing the Trump Organization that its financial statements from 2011 to 2020 “should no longer be relied upon,” Mazars also said it had not concluded that the statements, as a whole, contained “material discrepancies.” The firm did say, however, that the “totality of circumstances,” including its own investigation into the financial statements, had led it to conclude they were unreliable.

Mazars did not respond to a request for comment.

The somewhat muddled nature of the explanation by Mazars makes it hard to assess the motivation, and potential legal implications, behind its decision to part ways with Trump.

Lynn Turner, the former chief accountant at the Securities and Exchange Commission, said the new information that Mazars learned of could require its previous financial statements to be revised. Although those original statements contained many disclaimers, coming into possession of significant new facts could leave the firm vulnerable to a lawsuit.

“They ain’t gonna issue that letter otherwise,” he said.

In addition to signing off on Trump’s statements of financial condition, which were used mostly when seeking bank loans or other credit, Mazars also prepared his tax returns, though the firm did not raise doubts about those in its letter.

Intentionally filing false tax returns with the government is a criminal offense, and there has been no indication that prosecutors are pursuing that avenue. As such, Trump’s tax filings have long been considered perhaps the most accurate portrayal of his financial condition.

The New York Times in 2020 obtained decades of tax return information for Trump and his companies, which revealed that for all his claims of stellar business acumen and high net worth, he actually lost money in many years, had huge bank loans coming due and faced a long-running IRS audit that could cost him $100 million. He often paid little or no federal income taxes.

In fact, Trump’s tax returns add some important context to the 2014 financials by Mazars that he included in his statement Tuesday night, which painted a rosy picture of Trump’s wealth. That year, his income from “The Apprentice” and licensing deals was in a steady decline, and he was selling off stocks to help finance the purchase of a Scottish golf course and to open a hotel in the Old Post Office building in Washington, D.C., projects that would turn out to be money losers.

His bottom line for the year: $47 million in losses on his core businesses and zero federal income tax.

© 2022 The New York Times Company
Well here it is. Him holding up the report stating... (show quote)


A The New York Times report WOW! It must be true! once upon a time i said my home was worth $XXX,XXX. and the appraiser said no no it's less. And I sold my home for more than it was worth because the buyer liked it more than me or the appraiser.

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Feb 18, 2022 13:40:06   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
drlarrygino wrote:
I'm waiting like you were waiting for Mueller to find a speck of dirt on President Trump. He never did after all that time.


The New York Attorney General isn't having any problems with it and its because she doesn't have Bill Barr trying to interfere.

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Feb 18, 2022 13:58:36   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
336Robin wrote:
The New York Attorney General isn't having any problems with it and its because she doesn't have Bill Barr trying to interfere.


Good luck with her attempts. They are probably looking at her financials as well. That's what they do with the accusers.

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Feb 18, 2022 15:11:40   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
336Robin wrote:
Well here it is. Him holding up the report stating his wealth stated by the firm that quit him after years of him providing dubious information for them to use in preparing his taxes. Such a surprise right?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-perilous-exclamation-point-years-125443612.html


The New York Times
For Trump, a Perilous Exclamation Point to Years of Wealth Inflation
Mike McIntire
Thu, February 17, 2022, 7:54 AM

Donald Trump holds up an accounting of his financial worth as he announces he is running for president at Trump Tower in New York, June 16, 2015. (Todd Heisler/The New York Times)

On Tuesday evening, former President Donald Trump, rattled by news that his longtime accountants had declared that years of his financial statements were not reliable, issued a statement of self-defense with new claims about his wealth.

These, too, did not add up.

In a rambling emailed message, Trump referred to a “June 30, 2014 Statement of Financial Condition” prepared by the accounting firm, Mazars USA, showing that the year before his first presidential run his net worth had been $5.8 billion. But that is not what he said back then.

Sign up for The Morning newsletter from the New York Times

When he declared his candidacy in 2015, he produced what he called his “Summary of Net Worth as of June 30, 2014” with a very different number: $8.7 billion. A month later, he upped the ante, releasing a statement pronouncing that his “net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS.”

The shape-shifting valuations, even in the face of mounting legal peril with Mazars’ decision to sever ties and disavow its past financial statements, get to the core of a problem for Trump. He has spent a lifetime bending reality to his will, often making it up as he went along, inventing facts and figures to support his needs in the moment. In fact, in his Tuesday email he suggested the intangible value of the “Trump brand” was actually worth an extra $3 billion in 2014.

“My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” he testified in 2007 as part of his unsuccessful lawsuit over a book that suggested he was not really a billionaire.

Now, though, he faces multiple investigations that threaten to hold his questionable claims up to the light. In New York, two law enforcement inquiries are examining whether he fraudulently submitted overblown real estate valuations to secure loans. And in Georgia, a grand jury is looking into Trump’s attempts to pressure state officials to “find 11,780 votes” — his margin of defeat in 2020 in that battleground state — that he baselessly asserted had been stolen from him.

For Trump, such casual dalliances with inaccuracies and lies have long been central to his modus operandi, which he once famously described as “truthful hyperbole.” He has employed this “very effective form of promotion,” as he called it, to sell himself and build the brand that ultimately helped vault him to the White House.

Along the way, his puffery often came with unfortunate consequences for average people who could not distinguish truth from hyperbole. Yet for the most part, he avoided serious legal consequences, sometimes by paying to end lawsuits and, in at least one instance, stifle a criminal investigation.

After the success of the television show “The Apprentice” helped make Trump a household name in the early 2000s, he parlayed it into an ever-expanding assortment of branded products and services, from cologne and neckties to steaks and cellphone ringtones. There were promotional deals that generated millions of dollars for him but also lawsuits that made what came to be a familiar argument: that Trump’s hyperbole misled clients into losing money in various ways.

He lent his name to the multilevel marketing of vitamins, pitching it as “an exciting plan to opt out of the recession,” and sold unaccredited real estate seminars through his for-profit Trump University. The company behind the vitamin scheme soon went bankrupt, and people who paid as much as $35,000 for the seminars sued, claiming they were worthless, eventually resulting in a $25 million settlement as Trump was about to enter the White House.

Buyers of condominium units in Trump-branded projects in Mexico and Florida alleged that they had been duped into thinking Trump had an active role in them, when in fact he had merely licensed his name. And in New York, people who bought units in the Trump SoHo development in lower Manhattan claimed in court that Trump and his family had overstated the number of sales in the luxury building, damaging their investments.

Trump quietly settled that suit in 2011 — but on the condition that the plaintiffs notify criminal prosecutors looking into the exaggerated marketing of units that they no longer wished to cooperate. The criminal investigation, by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, was eventually dropped.

The current investigations in New York have proven a tougher challenge. The inquiry by the state attorney general, Letitia James, has obtained voluminous records covering years of financial transactions, documenting what appear to be misleading assertions by Trump or his representatives.

Among other things, according to court filings, Trump claimed his triplex penthouse apartment in Manhattan was 30,000 square feet, when in fact it was 11,000 square feet — inflating its supposed value by about $200 million. Similarly, the value of his estate in Westchester County was said to have been exaggerated by $61 million through the inclusion of seven nonexistent mansions.

Trump has railed against the investigations, calling them partisan “witch hunts” by Democrats, and has gone to court in bids to stop or slow them down. In his statement Tuesday, he also suggested that they were racially motivated — James and the newly elected Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, are Black — and that his accountants had been browbeaten into quitting.

“Mazars’ decision to withdraw was clearly a result of the AG’s and DA’s vicious intimidation tactics used — also on other members of the Trump Organization,” Trump said in his statement. “Mazars, who were scared beyond belief, in conversations with us made it clear that they were willing to do or say anything to stop the constant threat which has gone against them for years.”

He pointed out that, in its letter informing the Trump Organization that its financial statements from 2011 to 2020 “should no longer be relied upon,” Mazars also said it had not concluded that the statements, as a whole, contained “material discrepancies.” The firm did say, however, that the “totality of circumstances,” including its own investigation into the financial statements, had led it to conclude they were unreliable.

Mazars did not respond to a request for comment.

The somewhat muddled nature of the explanation by Mazars makes it hard to assess the motivation, and potential legal implications, behind its decision to part ways with Trump.

Lynn Turner, the former chief accountant at the Securities and Exchange Commission, said the new information that Mazars learned of could require its previous financial statements to be revised. Although those original statements contained many disclaimers, coming into possession of significant new facts could leave the firm vulnerable to a lawsuit.

“They ain’t gonna issue that letter otherwise,” he said.

In addition to signing off on Trump’s statements of financial condition, which were used mostly when seeking bank loans or other credit, Mazars also prepared his tax returns, though the firm did not raise doubts about those in its letter.

Intentionally filing false tax returns with the government is a criminal offense, and there has been no indication that prosecutors are pursuing that avenue. As such, Trump’s tax filings have long been considered perhaps the most accurate portrayal of his financial condition.

The New York Times in 2020 obtained decades of tax return information for Trump and his companies, which revealed that for all his claims of stellar business acumen and high net worth, he actually lost money in many years, had huge bank loans coming due and faced a long-running IRS audit that could cost him $100 million. He often paid little or no federal income taxes.

In fact, Trump’s tax returns add some important context to the 2014 financials by Mazars that he included in his statement Tuesday night, which painted a rosy picture of Trump’s wealth. That year, his income from “The Apprentice” and licensing deals was in a steady decline, and he was selling off stocks to help finance the purchase of a Scottish golf course and to open a hotel in the Old Post Office building in Washington, D.C., projects that would turn out to be money losers.

His bottom line for the year: $47 million in losses on his core businesses and zero federal income tax.

© 2022 The New York Times Company
Well here it is. Him holding up the report stating... (show quote)

More leftist garbage not worth a glance!

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Feb 18, 2022 16:06:40   #
Big Kahuna
 
336Robin wrote:
The New York Attorney General isn't having any problems with it and its because she doesn't have Bill Barr trying to interfere.


Mueller was loaded from top to bottom and side to side with Clinton supporters and donors and still could find nothing. I wonder why???

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Feb 18, 2022 16:08:19   #
Big Kahuna
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Good luck with her attempts. They are probably looking at her financials as well. That's what they do with the accusers.


I'd be looking for lice in her wig and weaves and try to use social distancing so as not to contract a contagious disease from her.

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Feb 18, 2022 16:18:29   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
More leftist garbage not worth a glance!


What that really means is this smart ass lefty has us dead to rights again!

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Feb 18, 2022 16:19:32   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Mueller was loaded from top to bottom and side to side with Clinton supporters and donors and still could find nothing. I wonder why???


Did he exonerate Trump? Nope sure didn't.

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Feb 18, 2022 16:22:05   #
Big Kahuna
 
336Robin wrote:
Did he exonerate Trump? Nope sure didn't.


Did he indict or convict him or refer him for a conviction?

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Feb 18, 2022 16:29:34   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Did he indict or convict him or refer him for a conviction?


He was told he could not charge the President of the United States so no.

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