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Jul 26, 2013 15:39:51   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to post up some Churchill sayings on the chit-chat thread. I have a ton of Churchill sayings, some of which are attributed, some of which are not. Some things Churchill probably said were not recorded anywhere, except someone said he said it, or it was just generally recognized he said it. I will leave it to the reader to make up his or her own mind. Some statements sound like Churchill although they have no attribution. Since he was known to be a straightforward man, you can probably conclude that if he thought it, he probably said it. So, I'll leave it to you to decide, and I will probably attempt to post up a few every day for a while to see how it goes. Here is your first dose:

"If you wanted nothing done, Arthur Balfour, was the best man for the task. There was no one equal to him." Churchill by Himself, p. 572. Yes, I think he would have said that.

"Well, dinner would have been splendid if the wine had been as cold as the soup, the beef as rare as the service, the brandy as old as the fish, and the maid as willing as the Duchess." Id. at 574. No doubt.

"I am a man of simple tastes - I am quite easily satisfied with the best of everything." Id. at 579. Yep.

"This hotel is a great trial to me. Yesterday morning I had half-eaten a kipper when a huge maggot crept out & flashed his teeth at me! To-day I could find nothing nourshing for lunch but pancakes. Such are the trials which great & good men endure in the service of their country." Id. at 539. 1909, 17 October, Queen's Hotel, Dundee.

Well there is your fix for today. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.


CrazyHorse wrote:
25 July, 2013:

[David Lloyd George at a telephone booth: "Winston, loan me a penny so I may ring a friend." Churchill eleaborately searched his pockets...] Here, David, is sixpence. Now you can ring all your friends. (Ronald Golding to the editor, who recalled that WSC told him of this exchange, which occurred before World War II.) Id. at 557.

He spoke without a note, and almost without a point. 1931. (Manchester II, 107.) WSC had endured a lengthy speech by Labour MP William Graham. Id. at 558.

"Set the People Free" was the title of a Conservative Party election manifesto. Smithers was well known for "condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought", to use a Churchillism. Id. at 559. (alia: OIllegal's teleprompter is well known for condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought.)

This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put. [Sometimes rendered as "pedantic nonsense" or "tedious nuisance."] 1944. 27 Feburary. (Benjamin Zimmer, HTTP://XRL.US/IZBQ.) Id. at 578.

You will never get to the end of the journey if you stop to shy a stone at every dog that barks. 1923, 3 December, Shepherd's Bush Empire, London. (CS IV, 3426.) Id. at 579.

I am going to make a long speech today; I haven't had time to prepare a short one. (The book indicates he may have borrowed the idea from a French letter.) Id. at 579.

Well, that's it for another day. What say you?
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26 July, 2013:

Idlers: We cannot afford to have idle people. Idlers at the top make idlers at the bottom. No one must stand aside in his working prime to pursue a life of selfish pleasure. There are wasters in every class. But anyhow we cannot have a band of drones in our midst, whether they come from the ancient aristocracy or the modern plutocracy or the ordinary type of pub crawler. 1943, 21 March, Broadcase, London. (Onwards, 39.) Id. at 412.

Immigration: How was the Aliens Bill passed? It was introduced to the House of Commons in a tumbril. They began debating it on the steps of the scaffold, and before two days had passed in Committee they were hurried to the frame-work of the guillotine. 1905, 31 July. Id. 413.

Industry, management: Management by whom? Is it to be managed by business men under all the inducements of profit and all the penalties of bankruptcy, or is it to be management by politicians interested in their careers or prejudiced by their Party doctrines, but otherwise not specially distinguished - or, I should say, who otherwise have their distinction yet to win - who are assisted in their task by officials themselves impartial in the sense that it makes no difference to them whether the industry show a profit or a loss? 1948, 16 November. Id. at 413.

Insurance, Life: The only anxiety which the Socialists have about nationalizing life insurance is whether it will lose them support among the very large number of insurance agents... What they now seek is the control of the vast sum of money which represents the savings over many years of millions of people to provide by self-denial and forethought, for their widows, their orphans and their own old age or infirmity. The control over this great mass of investiments would be another most powerful means of bringing the whole financial, economic and industrial life of Britain into Socialist hands. 1950, 28 January, Woodford, Essex. (Balance, 167.) Id. at 414.

Keynesian economics: The idea that you can vote yourself into prosperity is one of the most ludicrous tht ever was entertained. 1944, 7 September, RMS Queen Mary, En Route to Second Quebec Conference. (Colville, Fringes II, 139.) Id. at 415.

The idea that a nation can tax itself into propserity is one of the crudest delusions which has ever fuddled the human mind. 1948, 21 April. The Royal Albert Hall, London, (Europe, 301.) Id. at 415.

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Jul 26, 2013 16:10:56   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
"Set the people free" is what we need today!

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Jul 26, 2013 16:17:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
[quote=CrazyHorse]Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to post up some Churchill sayings on the chit-chat thread. I have a ton of Churchill sayings, some of which are attributed, some of which are not. Some things Churchill probably said were not recorded anywhere, except someone said he said it, or it was just generally recognized he said it. I will leave it to the reader to make up his or her own mind. Some statements sound like Churchill although they have no attribution. Since he was known to be a straightforward man, you can probably conclude that if he thought it, he probably said it. So, I'll leave it to you to decide, and I will probably attempt to post up a few every day for a while to see how it goes. Here is your first dose:

"If you wanted nothing done, Arthur Balfour, was the best man for the task. There was no one equal to him." Churchill by Himself, p. 572. Yes, I think he would have said that.

"Well, dinner would have been splendid if the wine had been as cold as the soup, the beef as rare as the service, the brandy as old as the fish, and the maid as willing as the Duchess." Id. at 574. No doubt.

"I am a man of simple tastes - I am quite easily satisfied with the best of everything." Id. at 579. Yep.

"This hotel is a great trial to me. Yesterday morning I had half-eaten a kipper when a huge maggot crept out & flashed his teeth at me! To-day I could find nothing nourshing for lunch but pancakes. Such are the trials which great & good men endure in the service of their country." Id. at 539. 1909, 17 October, Queen's Hotel, Dundee.

Well there is your fix for today. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.




26 July, 2013:

Idlers: We cannot afford to have idle people. Idlers at the top make idlers at the bottom. No one must stand aside in his working prime to pursue a life of selfish pleasure. There are wasters in every class. But anyhow we cannot have a band of drones in our midst, whether they come from the ancient aristocracy or the modern plutocracy or the ordinary type of pub crawler. 1943, 21 March, Broadcase, London. (Onwards, 39.) Id. at 412.

Immigration: How was the Aliens Bill passed? It was introduced to the House of Commons in a tumbril. They began debating it on the steps of the scaffold, and before two days had passed in Committee they were hurried to the frame-work of the guillotine. 1905, 31 July. Id. 413.

Industry, management: Management by whom? Is it to be managed by business men under all the inducements of profit and all the penalties of bankruptcy, or is it to be management by politicians interested in their careers or prejudiced by their Party doctrines, but otherwise not specially distinguished - or, I should say, who otherwise have their distinction yet to win - who are assisted in their task by officials themselves impartial in the sense that it makes no difference to them whether the industry show a profit or a loss? 1948, 16 November. Id. at 413.

Insurance, Life: The only anxiety which the Socialists have about nationalizing life insurance is whether it will lose them support among the very large number of insurance agents... What they now seek is the control of the vast sum of money which represents the savings over many years of millions of people to provide by self-denial and forethought, for their widows, their orphans and their own old age or infirmity. The control over this great mass of investiments would be another most powerful means of bringing the whole financial, economic and industrial life of Britain into Socialist hands. 1950, 28 January, Woodford, Essex. (Balance, 167.) Id. at 414.

Keynesian economics: The idea that you can vote yourself into prosperity is one of the most ludicrous tht ever was entertained. 1944, 7 September, RMS Queen Mary, En Route to Second Quebec Conference. (Colville, Fringes II, 139.) Id. at 415.

The idea that a nation can tax itself into propserity is one of the crudest delusions which has ever fuddled the human mind. 1948, 21 April. The Royal Albert Hall, London, (Europe, 301.) Id. at 415.[/quote]

Someone should have showed that one to Dirty Harry, Nasty Nancy, Foot in Mouth Joe, and Obumma long ago before they started trying to use that method.

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Jul 27, 2013 18:26:25   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to post up some Churchill sayings on the chit-chat thread. I have a ton of Churchill sayings, some of which are attributed, some of which are not. Some things Churchill probably said were not recorded anywhere, except someone said he said it, or it was just generally recognized he said it. I will leave it to the reader to make up his or her own mind. Some statements sound like Churchill although they have no attribution. Since he was known to be a straightforward man, you can probably conclude that if he thought it, he probably said it. So, I'll leave it to you to decide, and I will probably attempt to post up a few every day for a while to see how it goes. Here is your first dose:

"If you wanted nothing done, Arthur Balfour, was the best man for the task. There was no one equal to him." Churchill by Himself, p. 572. Yes, I think he would have said that.

"Well, dinner would have been splendid if the wine had been as cold as the soup, the beef as rare as the service, the brandy as old as the fish, and the maid as willing as the Duchess." Id. at 574. No doubt.

"I am a man of simple tastes - I am quite easily satisfied with the best of everything." Id. at 579. Yep.

"This hotel is a great trial to me. Yesterday morning I had half-eaten a kipper when a huge maggot crept out & flashed his teeth at me! To-day I could find nothing nourshing for lunch but pancakes. Such are the trials which great & good men endure in the service of their country." Id. at 539. 1909, 17 October, Queen's Hotel, Dundee.

Well there is your fix for today. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.




26 July, 2013:

Idlers: We cannot afford to have idle people. Idlers at the top make idlers at the bottom. No one must stand aside in his working prime to pursue a life of selfish pleasure. There are wasters in every class. But anyhow we cannot have a band of drones in our midst, whether they come from the ancient aristocracy or the modern plutocracy or the ordinary type of pub crawler. 1943, 21 March, Broadcase, London. (Onwards, 39.) Id. at 412.

Immigration: How was the Aliens Bill passed? It was introduced to the House of Commons in a tumbril. They began debating it on the steps of the scaffold, and before two days had passed in Committee they were hurried to the frame-work of the guillotine. 1905, 31 July. Id. 413.

Industry, management: Management by whom? Is it to be managed by business men under all the inducements of profit and all the penalties of bankruptcy, or is it to be management by politicians interested in their careers or prejudiced by their Party doctrines, but otherwise not specially distinguished - or, I should say, who otherwise have their distinction yet to win - who are assisted in their task by officials themselves impartial in the sense that it makes no difference to them whether the industry show a profit or a loss? 1948, 16 November. Id. at 413.

Insurance, Life: The only anxiety which the Socialists have about nationalizing life insurance is whether it will lose them support among the very large number of insurance agents... What they now seek is the control of the vast sum of money which represents the savings over many years of millions of people to provide by self-denial and forethought, for their widows, their orphans and their own old age or infirmity. The control over this great mass of investiments would be another most powerful means of bringing the whole financial, economic and industrial life of Britain into Socialist hands. 1950, 28 January, Woodford, Essex. (Balance, 167.) Id. at 414.

Keynesian economics: The idea that you can vote yourself into prosperity is one of the most ludicrous tht ever was entertained. 1944, 7 September, RMS Queen Mary, En Route to Second Quebec Conference. (Colville, Fringes II, 139.) Id. at 415.

The idea that a nation can tax itself into propserity is one of the crudest delusions which has ever fuddled the human mind. 1948, 21 April. The Royal Albert Hall, London, (Europe, 301.) Id. at 415.

Saturday 27 July, 2013

[Mr. Lewis (Lab.): "Is the Prime Minister aware of the deep concern felt by the people of this country at the whole question of the Korean conflict."] I am fully aware of the deep concern felt by the Hon. Member in many matters above his comprehension. 1952, 18 November (Willans and Roetter, 32.)
Id. at 546.

[Mr. M. Steward (Lab.): "Will the Prime Minister remember the Greek proverb, 'Much learning does not teach sense'?" Mr. Lewis (Lab.): "May I ask the Prime Minister whether that is above his comprehension?"] I am sorry to see that I hit so deeply home. 1952, 19 November. (Willans and Roetter, 32.) Id. at 546.

[A Mormon visitor, when offered a whisky and soda: "May I have water, Sir Winston? Lions drink it."] Asses drink it too.
[Second Mormon: "Strong drink rageth and stingeth like a serpent."] I have long been looking for a drink like that. 1950, Chartwell. (Montagle Browne,305.) Id. at 546.

[Gen. Slim: "I suppose we shall end up with some mongrel weapon, half Britich and half American."] Pray moderate your language, Field Marshal -- that's an exact description of me. 1952. (Cawthorne, 32.) Churchill as the new Prime Minister in 1952 inherited the controversy over the relatived merits of the new British and American automatic rifles. Field Marshal Sir William Slim, Chief of the Imperial General Staff, voiced his opinion. Id. at 546-547.

[Bernard Shaw: "Am reserving two tickets for you for my premiere. Come and bring a friend -- if you have one."] Impossible to be present for the first performance. Will attend the second -- if there is one.] 1922, London. (Halle, Irrepressible, 116; Dalton Newfield.) Id. at 547.

Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to pos... (show quote)

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Jul 29, 2013 18:53:07   #
dbleach3
 
"Nothing is so invigorating as to be shot at and missed." Winston Churchill

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." Winston Churchill

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Jul 29, 2013 20:37:24   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I love the reply to George Bernard Shaw. Maybe that is because I have heard from Glen Beck that Shaw was one of the early progressives and even worse.

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Jul 30, 2013 11:07:38   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
oldroy wrote:
I love the reply to George Bernard Shaw. Maybe that is because I have heard from Glen Beck that Shaw was one of the early progressives and even worse.


Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: I've read that also, someplace in passing that I don't presently recall the source, and communist is what I remember.

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Jul 30, 2013 15:46:48   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
oldroy wrote:
I love the reply to George Bernard Shaw. Maybe that is because I have heard from Glen Beck that Shaw was one of the early progressives and even worse.


LOL....old roy , you heard it from who ? Glen Beck ? How appropriate , a thread where Crazy Horse will "quote Churchill as he Crazy Horse best remembers , as someone else might have remembered , lololol....and BEST of all ! Things he probably would have said anyway but no verification that he ever did !!


Keep it going boys , you're on a roll ........and there's nothing new under the sun , the same is done with Washington Jefferson and Franklin , and the quotes vary according to political stripe .
How easy to extrapolate the practice to "present day politicians " :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 30, 2013 15:48:56   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
p.s. 8-) 8-) 8-) I'll be back with some Truman , Roosevelt and Eisenhower " true quotes " just gimme a few minutes to make some up .
But don't worry , they 'll all be quotes that they would of said anyway :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 30, 2013 15:52:17   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
You guys are the bomb !

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Jul 31, 2013 09:18:54   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
Lou wrote:
LOL....old roy , you heard it from who ? Glen Beck ? How appropriate , a thread where Crazy Horse will "quote Churchill as he Crazy Horse best remembers , as someone else might have remembered , lololol....and BEST of all ! Things he probably would have said anyway but no verification that he ever did !!


Keep it going boys , you're on a roll ........and there's nothing new under the sun , the same is done with Washington Jefferson and Franklin , and the quotes vary according to political stripe .
How easy to extrapolate the practice to "present day politicians " :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
LOL....old roy , you heard it from who ? Glen Beck... (show quote)


Quid Pro Quo, Lou: Put up your own threads to muck up Lou. All the quotes come right of Churchill books I have, and not made up by me. Most are attributed, some are not, but still thought to be Churchill's, and therefore the authors put them in the books. Stay the h--- off my threads, you're not invided libtard.

Crawl back into your hole dirt dog, before you get bit
Crawl back into your hole dirt dog, before you get...

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Jul 31, 2013 09:51:44   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, Lou: Put up your own threads to muck up Lou. All the quotes come right of Churchill books I have, and not made up by me. Most are attributed, some are not, but still thought to be Churchill's, and therefore the authors put them in the books. Stay the h--- off my threads, you're not invided libtard.


Who died and left you boss . Put up B.S. like the pile you just dropped and I'll mock it , as it SHOULD be mocked for the B.S. that it is .
You're a typical teebagger in that , alleged quotes from Jefferson , Washington and Franklin have been ' adjusted " to fit your narrow mind .
Go jump in a lake Crazy Horse, I'll participate in whatever thread I choose . I don't need an invitation from you or anyone else . " Your threads " LOLOLOL , what a dunce .
YOU are the one DUMPING muck on the thread - your own words - " some are attributed , some are not , but still THOUGHT ...."
Who are you trying to kid ? Go pound salt crazy horse . Don't whine when your B.S. is exposed .
:thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Jul 31, 2013 15:55:09   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
Lou wrote:
Who died and left you boss . Put up B.S. like the pile you just dropped and I'll mock it , as it SHOULD be mocked for the B.S. that it is .
You're a typical teebagger in that , alleged quotes from Jefferson , Washington and Franklin have been ' adjusted " to fit your narrow mind .
Go jump in a lake Crazy Horse, I'll participate in whatever thread I choose . I don't need an invitation from you or anyone else . " Your threads " LOLOLOL , what a dunce .
YOU are the one DUMPING muck on the thread - your own words - " some are attributed , some are not , but still THOUGHT ...."
Who are you trying to kid ? Go pound salt crazy horse . Don't whine when your B.S. is exposed .
:thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Who died and left you boss . Put up B.S. like the ... (show quote)


Quid Pro Quo, Loulou: With that post loulou, you haven't exposed anything but your own invincible mendacious ego. :thumbdown: :mrgreen:

Crawl back into your hole whistle pig, before you get bit
Crawl back into your hole whistle pig, before you ...

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Jul 31, 2013 16:03:44   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, Loulou: With that post loulou, you haven't exposed anything but your own invincible mendacious ego. :thumbdown: :mrgreen:


Riiight crazy horse , you keep on believing that . Somebody's gotta call you clowns on your B.S.

One lies the other swears , that's the routine eh ?

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Jul 31, 2013 16:09:25   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
Lou wrote:
Riiight crazy horse , you keep on believing that . Somebody's gotta call you clowns on your B.S.

One lies the other swears , that's the routine eh ?


Quid Pro Quo, brain dead: Just another brain dead mendacious post by loulou. Congratulations, if you not anything, you're consistent.

You too loulou
You too loulou...

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