336Robin Loc: North Carolina

The first headlines about Cheney and Kinzinger read that they were going to be expelled from the Republican Party and now that they've realized just how bad this makes them look, they've toned it down to censure.

Censure from what? The support of treasonous madman and his gang of loyal idiots who sought to take over the federal government by way of taking over the elections through the January 6th insurrection?

What a thing to try and punish two establishment Republicans over. It is obvious that the contagious of fascist government is now complete. They will goosestep in line and hate everyone else or they will be censured.

What does censure mean?.....They are not of us.

Thank God they aren't. Are they the only stand up Republicans left? Sure seems that way.



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GOP now looks to censure Cheney and Kinzinger, not oust them

FILE - Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., vice chair of the House panel investigating the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol insurrection, and her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney walk in the Capitol Rotunda at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, Jan. 6, 2022. Rep. Liz Cheney has been setting multiple personal fund-raising records despite a GOP backlash for voting to impeach former President Donald Trump for the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and for not relenting in her public criticism of Trump. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta, File) (ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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SAM METZ and MEAD GRUVER
Thu, February 3, 2022, 8:58 PM


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Republican officials meeting in Utah advanced a watered-down resolution Thursday that would formally censure GOP Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for their perceived disloyalty to former President Donald Trump but not seek to expel them from the party.

The resolution's passage through a subcommittee followed hours of hand-wringing over language that initially would have called on the House Republican Conference to oust Cheney and Kinzinger, the only Republicans on the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol. The censure resolution is expected to be voted on Friday by all 168 Republican National Committee members at their winter meeting in Salt Lake City.

“We want to send a message that we’re disapproving of their conduct. It’s a middle ground,” RNC member Harmeet Dhillon said, noting that the vote was unanimous.

“This is not about being anti-Trump. There are many anti-Trump Republicans that are not included in this resolution. These two took a specific action to defy party leadership,” she added.

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The effort to punish Cheney, of Wyoming, and Kinzinger, of Illinois, comes as party officials juggle preparation for this year's midterm elections, when control of Congress and 36 governorships are at stake, with planning for the 2024 presidential election. In Salt Lake City this week, they’ve discussed where to host their 2024 party convention and whether to compel their candidates not to participate in presidential debates, a cause important to Trump.

But the last-minute change to the resolution puts in question Trump's overarching influence on a party apparatus that has largely acquiesced to his wishes. The former president and other GOP members were incensed when Kinzinger and Cheney agreed to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s invitation to join the Democratic-led House committee investigating the insurrection, giving the panel a veneer of bipartisan credibility.

The draft censure resolution accuses Kinzinger and Cheney of “participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse" and of “utilizing their past professed political affiliation to mask Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purposes.”

It says the RNC will “immediately cease any and all support” of Kinzinger and Cheney as members of the party and says the RNC denounces “those who deliberately jeopardize victory in November.”

Republican Party Chair Ronna McDaniel did not respond to request for comment Thursday on the resolution changes, but Dhillon said RNC resolutions are routinely revised.

Not every RNC member was supportive of the initial draft resolution for expulsion.

“It’s distracting from what should be our main objective: winning back the House and the Senate. We should be focused on taking on Democrats and not each other. This is not time well spent,” Bill Palatucci, a committee member from New Jersey, said of the effort to punish Cheney and Kinzinger.

The resolution to expel Cheney and Kinzinger was spearheaded by David Bossie, a Maryland committee member who previously served as a Trump campaign adviser, and Frank Eathorne, chair of Wyoming’s Republican Party. Eathorne declined to comment on the revised resolution after its passage.

The initial draft, obtained by The Associated Press, had accused Cheney and Kinzinger of serving as “pawns to parrot Democrat talking points” on the Jan. 6 House committee and chided them for deposing their colleagues and “pursuing what amounts to a third political impeachment of President Trump.”

“The Conference must not be sabotaged by Rep. Liz Cheney and Rep. Adam Kinzinger who have demonstrated, with actions and words, that they support Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back a Republican majority in 2023,” it said.

The RNC has no formal power over the party’s congressional members, so how much weight a resolution to expel them from the House Republican Conference would have carried in Congress if passed is unclear.

Kinzinger released a statement after the vote saying “conspiracies and toxic tribalism” were hindering Republicans' “ability to see clear-eyed.”

“Rather than focus their efforts on how to help the American people, my fellow Republicans have chosen to censure two lifelong members of their party for simply upholding their oaths of office,” he said.

Cheney has already been censured by the Wyoming Republican Party, but the voters who will determine her fate are less conservative than party insiders. Wyoming allows voters to change party affiliation at the polls, meaning Cheney could draw enough independent and even Democratic support to prevail in the Republican primary Aug. 16.

Cheney over the past year has raised $7.2 million, ranking ninth among all U.S. House candidates, according to the Federal Election Commission. That included over $2 million over the last three months of 2021, more than four times as much as her leading primary opponent raised, and Cheney finished the year with over 10 times as much campaign money.

Cheney said in a tweet Thursday night that she didn’t recognize those she felt had abandoned the U.S. Constitution in service of Trump.

“The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to ‘overturn’ a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy," she said.

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Gruver reported from Cheyenne, Wyoming. AP National Politics Writer Steve Peoples contributed reporting from New York.

Liberty Tree

They are self-serving RINOS driven by personal hate.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

They like attacking their “ supposed own.” One for the other does it matter?? Sure it does….There’s that fall back “ racist bs again~~

Now prominent Democrats are lining up to savage Manchin and Sinema in the press.

The latest Democrat to blast the two moderates was Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

She went on MSNBC and suggested they were racists.

Waters said, “We have two Democrats, Manchin and Sinema, and they are holding up the Democratic agenda. They have decided that they are going to stick with support of the filibuster, and they don’t care whether or not they undermine the rights of minorities and blacks in this country. You know, blacks have fought very hard to make this a stronger democracy. We have worked hard for equal rights, for civil rights and voting rights, and these two are basically saying to us they don’t care. They don’t care about us.”


These are the despicable tactics Democrats use to get their way – they use the corporate-controlled press to slander, harass, and intimidate their targets.

All of this is being done in order to ram through voter reforms that would undermine election integrity.

The behavior of the Democrats certainly lends credence to concerns over voter fraud – it’s peculiar that they’re fighting so hard against common-sense measures like voter ID.

A Monmouth poll showed that 80% of Americans favor voter ID, including 62% of Democrats.


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nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Your big lie about Trump and the "insurrection " is just too stupid and getting old.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Make no mistake, they fight against photo ID to vote because they want illegals to vote. Period. They want to be about to have people vote twice. It's the same with not purging voter rolls on the dead and the gone.

THEY WANT VOTER FRAUD!!!!!! THEY WANT TO CHEAT!

There is no other reason for it. Period. All else are just their gaslighting lies.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Wrong again.
The minority always loses. It’s the color of the beast.
Cheaters would be better named as the So Called Teapublicans.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Voter ID fraud has not been a problem forever. No one is impersonating voters .
Voter ID would solve nothing , compared to the problems it would create.
Like , expiration dates, addresses changes, phone # changes. Just more more way for the right to cobble up the works.
How does the right feel about IDs for guns.??? We should know at any given time who the owners of these guns are, no ?
Interested to hear.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

IOW, they have been getting away with it and with millions more illegals in the country, it's even more important to get rid of it.

What has not been a problem is actually getting a photo ID.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I reckon there are quite a few Republicans out there, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are not among them.
They went left.

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

It's not funny watching this dance between Biden, Manchin and Sinema but at least Manchin and Sinema are still talking to them. I have no confidence that either of them will flinch in the face of the extreme left of the party but the voters rights bill is important.

This is one place where there should be standardization for voting rights across the nation. No citizen should have to do a dance based on other insecurity of the elections when no fraud is being found.

If people would stop and think about it for a minute I believe they would or could see how a voting rights bill could help of us.

When people aren't being screwed with over registration to vote and voting then more people vote. When more people vote the will of the people is closer to being done. If a party is losing then the idea is they have to work to get the votes of the people voting.

One other way is majority voting and not this antiquated electoral college system.

Elections are going to change. It's been a long time on the Electoral College and its that reason alone that we have a lot of issues with gerrymandering. I'm not so against Manchin and Sinema as I am for voting law standardization.

People deserve to have the same rights in regards to voting nationwide.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Try poopin' , that may take away some of that addiction to talk shit, or maybe not........... being full of it and all.

Doesn't mean i don't luv ya. .... i do, in a penitentiary sorta way.

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

I did 29 yrs in there. You don't know squat.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

U.S. election laws date back to Article 1 of the Constitution. This gave states the responsibility of overseeing federal elections. Many Constitutional amendments and federal laws to protect voting rights have been passed since then. With a number of amendments throughout the growth of our nation… Enforce the laws in place and much more adherence to them and the problem is no longer a problem..

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Although, of course, the denial of the franchise on the basis of race or color violates the Fifteenth Amendment and a series of implementing statutes enacted by Congress, the administration of election statutes so as to treat white and black voters or candidates differently can constitute a denial of equal protection as well…Additionally, cases of gerrymandering of electoral districts and the creation or maintenance of electoral practices that dilute and weaken black and other minority voting strength is subject to Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment and statutory attack all the time with both parties taking full benefit of the professed dirty gertymandering that goes on by both parties, no exception there..How is requiring an ID suppression?

Standardized voting laws for states meaning?? All open for voting starting at what date and times?? Available options in help to get the disabled in? All things we have in place…

And if you do away with the electoral college how do you keep the state's with many more citizens from having a greater showing of them??
Look at whats here?? What would you amend to include??Uniformity standards I know you said but how differently than what is laid out all together??

Article I, Section 2 - Sets qualification for voters in the U.S. House elections
Article I, Section 3 - Leaves the election of U.S. Senators to the state legislatures
Article I, Section 4 - Leaves the time, place, and manner of elections to the state legislatures
Article II, Section 1 - Sets up the Electoral College
12th Amendment - Alters the Electoral College
14th Amendment, Section 2 - Provides a mechanism for penalizing states when they deny African American men over the age of 21 access to the ballot box
15th Amendment - Bans racial discrimination in voting.
17th Amendment - Provides for the popular election of U.S. Senators
19th Amendment - Bans gender discrimination in voting
23rd Amendment - Grants the District of Columbia three electors in the Electoral College
24th Amendment - Bans poll taxes in national elections
26th Amendment - Protects voting rights for those 18 and older


And yes, I agree with this you said:

People deserve to have the same rights in regards to voting nationwide…..How about we actually follow the letter of the laws and truly enforce them???

JR-57 Loc: South Carolina

Brilliant response.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Good stuff, linda!

It's kind of funny isn't it, but in this last election these guys who want voter reform to make it easier to vote, claim there were over 80 million votes for a guy who couldn't get ten people to a rally, campaigning from his basement. It that is actually true, it must be pretty damn easy to vote, wouldn't you say???

They just need to admit it, Biden didn't get no 80 million votes and now they figure they can't cheat again and it might take over 80 million votes to get a democrat elected legitimately. They need this "voting rights" bill to be able to get actual votes, legal or not!!